Pics before my Very controversial cycle...grrr

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Just wanted to post up some pics before my cycle of either phera-plex...or trenadrol. I dont know about tren just yet though, because the other post on here says it might not be the same as Alris orig. God damnit, maybe i should just go for it because i know alot of people on this board want some feedback on it just as bad as i do LMAO

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Just really got to get a bigger chest dontcha think, but its hard with long arms

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

bump

[copenhagen]

what dosages are you running

[Papi93]

Just wanted to post up some pics before my cycle of either phera-plex...or trenadrol. I dont know about tren just yet though, because the other post on here says it might not be the same as Alris orig. God damnit, maybe i should just go for it because i know alot of people on this board want some feedback on it just as bad as i do LMAO

Go with the trenadrol. I very interested in the results that it will produce.

[Superhuman]

wow I really don't think you should be doing juice yet, but I'm sure everyone's already told you that.

[Superhuman]

your profile says 7-9%, but there is now way you are below 10 or 11%

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

yea i need to edit it, that was back when i weighed 145-150ish and playing ice hockey. Im trying to bulk up, i weigh 165-170, im happy except my chest is impossible to get fuller, i have these damn monkey arms. Im not that big i know trying to get their, but hell i can ****ing lift heavy...and not just for my size. Chest and abs, and my ass are the only spots where i have BF.....its ridiculous.

[Superhuman]

well, I think you look good - but seriously give it some time before your next cycle. Who am I to talk, though? I started when I weighed about 175. Remember to eat. Your cycles is going to be a waste if you don't eat like a horse

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

yea, i figured that out the hard way before...before i knew about this site and didnt research and jumped right in without knowing what i was doin. This place teached me something new everyday. And for the eating thing, i would be eating 5,000 cals a day 1,000 more than what im doing now

[LetsGetItOn]

Good Luck with it man, just make sure you have everything set and planned out and know what your doing.

I agree with Papi, try out the trenadrol, I'm interested in hearing a cycle.

You said you are lifting heavy, what's heavy? Some stats?

I have long arms as well, do you do use dumbbells a lot? Dumbbell work really helped me out a lot and improved my barbell later as well. Good dumbbell work should help you start adding to your chest. What exercises do you do for chest?

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

box squats: 295 X 10, 315 x 7, 365 x 5, 405 x 3
Weighted dips: +35lbsx9, +55x6, +90x4
Plyo-box dips: +90lbsx8, +135x5, +150lbsx3
Deadlift:my max is about 375 now

Decline bench: 175x6, 185x4,190x2
flat: Max about 195 (sucks ass)
Incline dumbell press. I usually do 3-4 sets starting with the heaviest i can do. I use 60's

[tinyguy2]

why not eat something instead of donig steroids you have like no muscles and your gonig to do steroids? wait till your like 190 and have arms that arent 14's...your jsut going to hurt yourself in the long run..and you need to work on your back more than anything. thats probably why you bench 195...a big back leads to a big bench.

[C_Bino]

I agree with tinyguy for the most part here. There is no need for you to touch anything AAS related. You simply arent training and eating right to grow, so adding steroids/prohormones into the mix will do absolutely jack for you since you dont know how to grow properly naturally.

The reason your chest is small isnt because you have long arms, that makes no sense at all. Its because you dont know how to stimulate the muscle properly. You really need to rethink your whole approach imo.

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Ok. Ill take the advice, because you guys obviously know what your talking about. But it wouldnt hurt to buy now, and use later when i get to the right size. Ill let you guys know how the trainging is comming if your interested to know

[Superhuman]

i'm happy to see that you're so receptive to our suggestions. we are just looking out for you bro. I started AAS (albeit at low doses) when I was pretty small. now I'm looking really good, but my growth has started to slow down. I can't take steroids to break my plateu because I'm already on them!! My next step is GH, which is not affordable to me right now. The best way to go is to get AS BIG AS POSSIBLE without steroids, then when you are 100% sure than you cannot get any bigger without chemical enhancement you should start.

[tinyguy2]

When you get as huge and sexy as me you can start using aas's..jk. i used m1t once before i knew it was a steroid and regret it completely.. i have just read things on other forums and learned how to have a proper diet and i have gained alot of weight that way...I'm still years away from steroids and im bigger than you are by about 30 pounds. how old are you anyway?

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Im 19, and i know im young and can still gain weight naturally, but I get really impatient when i see my friends take this shit, and get big fast lol. Bad concept on the perspective of things, but everyone knows the feeling of jealousy. And theirs know way i would disregard the knowledge and opions of you guys on this board, because then i wouldn't have a reason to be a member. And for tinyguy, i may not be huge but i sure am sexy already Got to love the italians bro lol

[tinyguy2]

haha im a pale german irish.....19 is too young your going to mess up your hormones and not have them when you older just eat right...the bigger you get the more jealous you get believe me..you are always looking at other people and measurign yourself up...one cycle isnt going to get you huge anyway...girls like 6 packs not big guys look at brad pitt hes like 150, he is just real cut. dont ruin your self. you wotn jsut do one cyucle when you see it works good u get addicted. i dotn think anyone has ever just doen one cycle...be smart about stuff i want to juice it real bad but im waiting...

i jsut posted pics let me know what you think...http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=2838869&posted=1#post2838869

thanks

[rake922]

ImACrazyJewDaddy, updates?

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Yea, i bought generic labz version of it for 35.00 with shiipping included. But, i sold to a classmate of mine for 50$. LOL I wanted to see if you got anything out of it first. Ill let you guys no how his relults go. Im post-poning any use of steroids till im older and a bit bigger. The "kid" i sold them to took dianabol by itself like a year ago, no pct, no supporting supps....he was a wrestler, and he's ripped still. Bench's 265 easliy like 10 times. Just turned 18, weighs like 180 i beleive......but all he does is chest workouts and nothing else.......I told him that he was going to need supporting supplements for his liver and cholestrol, pct..ect ect He tells me this" Nah, i think ill just take this my liver is strong enough..thanks man" He didnt know what pct was........

[tinyguy2]

and that is why steroids are demonized by the public becuase of stupid people

[Superhuman]

Yea, i bought generic labz version of it for 35.00 with shiipping included. But, i sold to a classmate of mine for 50$. LOL I wanted to see if you got anything out of it first. Ill let you guys no how his relults go. Im post-poning any use of steroids till im older and a bit bigger. The "kid" i sold them to took dianabol by itself like a year ago, no pct, no supporting supps....he was a wrestler, and he's ripped still. Bench's 265 easliy like 10 times. Just turned 18, weighs like 180 i beleive......but all he does is chest workouts and nothing else.......I told him that he was going to need supporting supplements for his liver and cholestrol, pct..ect ect He tells me this" Nah, i think ill just take this my liver is strong enough..thanks man" He didnt know what pct was........

that's great that you made a couple bucks - but as a seller is should also be your responsibility to make sure he knows how to use it safely - not just meaning proper PCT but also proper injection protocal. if this kid dies because he doesn't know what aspirating is and injects into a vein it would be on you! make sure you tell him.

oh, and FYI it's probably not a good idea to be open about the fact that you are selling anything illegal - use is one thing, but dealing is much worse and I guarantee you that Feds check this site from time to time and IP addresses can be tracked easily.

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Superhuman, what the hell are you talking about???? Generic Labz sells a phera-plex alternative called Phera-max. Thats what i bought,sold...LEGALLY. so i guess the feds wont be comming after me. FYI even if i told this person the proper way to do shit, he wouldnt listen, he's a cocky mother****er and beleives he can kick the shit out of anyone...he wont listen to a damn word anyone says..but thanks for caring lol :)

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Superhuman, what the hell are you talking about???? Generic Labz sells a phera-plex alternative called Phera-max. Thats what i bought,sold...LEGALLY. so i guess the feds wont be comming after me. FYI even if i told this person the proper way to do shit, he wouldnt listen, he's a cocky mother****er and beleives he can kick the shit out of anyone...he wont listen to a damn word anyone says..but thanks for caring lol :)

[rake922]

He was talking about injecting into a vein, yet you didn't mention any injectible roid

[Superhuman]

I don't keep up with all these pro-hormones, just the real stuff, so excuse me geraldo. I thought he was talking about tren and generic labz was the UGL name.

sorry for the confusion jewdaddy, ANYWAY props to you for thinking things through and making an informed decision.

[chest6]

Well at least you didnt take them..

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

no problem superhuman.....besides, i had to find a guine pig. lol

[stayinstacked]

Just really got to get a bigger chest dontcha think, but its hard with long arms


Arnold Schwarzenegger had long arms too

[gr8twht]

yeah and did PLENTY of the real did s*** ...... he sure as heck wouldn't taking creatine

[gr8twht]

and tinyguy is correct, once you start you will get addicted .......... i did a cycle about 10 yrs ago and then did me another about a year later, and now would like to do another but it's money that keeps me from being addicted to it ..... s**t is very expensive once you start and try and keep that look, because believe me it does go away, and you'll deflate like a balloon!
a friend of mine that i got hooked up on it with, did it for about a year or two solid, and then i didn't see him for like two years after that, and wow, he was a very small person! said he couldn't afford it any longer

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

That's unfortunate. But, the good news is im waiting..and still gaining weight/stregth naturally. Im up about another 5 or so lbs, bench is up too, got my decline up to 205 for 2, flat is is stuck at 195, and everything else is up about a rep or so. Im likeing it...thanks for all the support guys. O, and for stayinstack, i know alot of guys who can bench more then me, but not squat nearly as much as me because they say they have "long femurs". So their must be something in correlation that makes it a bit more difficult.

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

o, and as for that "kid" i havent seen or heard from him for a about a week and a half so far..maybe ill see him friday morn.

[tinyguy2]

um i have long arms and long legs. i bench and squat a good amount. having longs arms is an excuse just liek long "femurs". chest size doesnt have to do with the amount you bench. there are bodybuilders with chest bigger than 800 pound benchers. power lifters bench with there tris and back bbers with there chests. there is a correlation with long arms and worse benches. the arms have to go a further distance making it harder but 195 is a pretty weak bench. im 6'1 so im pretty sure i have long arms. why would you think about taking steroids when you bench like a newbie. your going to be gainign naturaly for probably a few years. what are your stats? and how much do you squat? and are these squats past parrellel or newbie squats aka half squats?

[mwolffey]

Arnold Schwarzenegger had long arms too


lol....me too, and im doing fine in that department :)

[timtim]

bench is up too, got my decline up to 205 for 2, flat is is stuck at 195,

this your bench?

box squats: 295 X 10, 315 x 7, 365 x 5, 405 x 3
Weighted dips: +35lbsx9, +55x6, +90x4
Plyo-box dips: +90lbsx8, +135x5, +150lbsx3
Deadlift:my max is about 375 now


call bullshit on those numbers especially the box squat and weighted dips. your frame isnt moving those weights unless the box is 24 inches high and the dips are 2 inches deep. sorry. those are big numbers from someone with a thin frame and your bench is only @60% more than those dips. sorry, not a flame. those numbers look way off. maybe the deadlift is there, but no way on the others. good work on the weight gain and with the ph's.

[tinyguy2]

yeah those are definitely fake numbers. why not do a real squat below parallel and see what your number is. im betting its in the 200's. you probably got chicken legs right?

[DutchCowboy]

I would say don't juice, but then again it worked for this guy:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=229327

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Im sorry to dissapoint you but those are not fake numbers. Those numbers are dead on target. Why the hell would i lie??? My legs are my strongest points on me with years of playing hockey on them, reason being why i didnt post any pics because i know they are fine...i wanted you guys to commment on my upper body to see what helpfull information i could gather from you guys. Im disappointed.

[tinyguy2]

do you squat past parallel? and dips are off also. i dip my body weight plus about 50 and i bench 325. maybe you are benching wrong? how wide is your grip? is it within the rings?

[Carlos_E]

do you squat past parallel? and dips are off also. i dip my body weight plus about 50 and i bench 325. maybe you are benching wrong? how wide is your grip? is it within the rings?

Everyone on the internet benches 325.

[tinyguy2]

ok i bench 50 pounds. you caught me.

[someone70]

Sounds like a bash fest or a testerone party to me. The guys looking for help and some are saying this is what i can do. U have chicken legs this is bull shit numbers. Look at me ,look at me this is what i can do this is what i hear. Holy crap this is why people at the gym all say look at the meatheads. Cocky stuck up crap. Ive seen some of the other guys pictures 2 no place to be bashing anyone. I have been training 13yrs both natural and on tons of aas. I have seen plenty of little 19yr old stuck up cocky pricks come and go in the gym. So why dont we all try to get along and help out the bros on here. Stop beating this guy up. I seen ur links and posts no one smashed u so why do it to him real numbers or not. Just my 2ccs :shutthefu

P.S looking for some pics to post now so then u will by no means have reason to try to bash me next...

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Thanks Someone70. All im doing is looking for help. Seeing is beleiving right? My friend thats my exact size is paralleling 465 for 6 reps, and yes its correct form. Tinyguy, i saw your pics.., and you sure as hell dont bench over 225.
Before you start critiquing me and what i need to do, listen to your own advice and see if it works out. Ill post new pics tommorrow if you truely desire. I give honest information on this board to recieve the most honest and helpfull information, otherwise its ****ing pointless.

[tinyguy2]

are you ****ing kidding me 225 haha whatever bro. go squat 400

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Bro, waste your time on some other forum.

[tinyguy2]

nah i like this one

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

lol.

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

This is plain out ridiculous, anyone who is mature enough to act their age, yet older, say what you like....tinyguy your a funny man.

[tinyguy2]

yeah i dont really care what you can or cant do i was jsut bored and drama is fun when you work in a desk job all day doing spreadsheets

[BullDogg20]

Tinyguy2... you sound like an idiot and i seen your pictures, you should put some muscle on and loose that beer belly fat yourself before you give cocky opinionated Dickhead reply's or advice like you have been with this guy.

I am so sick and tired of idiots coming to this board and being arrogant pricks because they think its funny or they are bored and want to start $hit.

[daytrader]

Tinyguy2... you sound like an idiot and i seen your pictures, you should put some muscle on and loose that beer belly fat yourself before you give cocky opinionated Dickhead reply's or advice like you have been with this guy.

I am so sick and tired of idiots coming to this board and being arrogant pricks because they think its funny or they are bored and want to start $hit.
i was just about to step up and post that as well...good post bulldog.. check this guys previous posts.... he comes and flames a lot of "noobs".... but if you check his pics and started threads he really has NO reason at ALL to be critical of anyone on this site:no: ... jmo

[Dangerdan]

i was just about to step up and post that as well...good post bulldog.. check this guys previous posts.... he comes and flames a lot of "noobs".... but if you check his pics and started threads he really has NO reason at ALL to be critical of anyone on this site:no: ... jmo

I'm gonna hafta agree 100% with Bulldog and Daytrader here. Tinyguy = :bs:

[scriptfactory]

I'm gonna hafta agree 100% with Bulldog and Daytrader here. Tinyguy = :bs:
Co-signed. You have to earn the right to be a dickhead to noobs. :lol:

[godkilla]

Co-signed. You have to earn the right to be a dickhead to noobs. :lol:

bwahahahaha

[tinyguy2]

Tinyguy2... you sound like an idiot and i seen your pictures, you should put some muscle on and loose that beer belly fat yourself before you give cocky opinionated Dickhead reply's or advice like you have been with this guy.

I am so sick and tired of idiots coming to this board and being arrogant pricks because they think its funny or they are bored and want to start $hit.


booo hooo stop being meaning why are half of you people a bunch of babies "your going hurt peoples feelings" just to let you know i dont have that beer belly anymore.

[tinyguy2]

i will gain some muscle also sorry i ahvent been working out for 9 years only 9 months. by the end of the winter ill be a hell of alot bigger than i am now.

[tinyguy2]

also the whole discussion was over and then you had to be a tough guy and open your mouth

[someone70]

Dude back off already useless crap u have 2 say. U must be bored a member 4 two months and almost 500 posts. Holy crap 4 training for nine months u really have a lot 2 say. It also looks like its mostly useless crap.:nutkick:

[Carlos_E]

booo hooo stop being meaning why are half of you people a bunch of babies "your going hurt peoples feelings" just to let you know i dont have that beer belly anymore.

i will gain some muscle also sorry i ahvent been working out for 9 years only 9 months. by the end of the winter ill be a hell of alot bigger than i am now.

also the whole discussion was over and then you had to be a tough guy and open your mouth
All of this could have been one post. Are you whoring to get your post count up?

[tinyguy2]

i work a desk job this is all i do is sit on the net, i kept thinking of things it should have been one post your right.

[scriptfactory]

i work a desk job this is all i do is sit on the net, i kept thinking of things it should have been one post your right.
You can edit your posts and add things, man.

[tinyguy2]

yeah thats true that is what i should have done. what is the point of having more posts anyway or whoring? does that make somebody cooler on thsi forum

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

This bulletin is fairly useless now. Whenever i get to 180'ish ill post new progress pics. hopefully Ill hit it by october/november. Wish me luck.

[Superhuman]

luck has been wished upon you jewdaddy :D

[rake922]

Tinyguy2... you sound like an idiot and i seen your pictures, you should put some muscle on and loose that beer belly fat yourself before you give cocky opinionated Dickhead reply's or advice like you have been with this guy.

I am so sick and tired of idiots coming to this board and being arrogant pricks because they think its funny or they are bored and want to start $hit.
I've seen his previous posts also, and yea just about all of them are really negative. So I don't like him either :nutkick:

[tinyguy2]

you are a bunch of pussies sorry im negative deal with it. least i tell the truth when i speak and dotn telll kids to take bs supplements like half of you do. yeha take noexp[lode its awesome. haha

[daytrader]

you are a bunch of pussies sorry im negative deal with it. least i tell the truth when i speak and dotn telll kids to take bs supplements like half of you do. yeha take noexp[lode its awesome. haha
i can barley understand what your trying to say...

theres so much I could say but ill stick with "nice knowin ya" :wg:

[daytrader]

This bulletin is fairly useless now. Whenever i get to 180'ish ill post new progress pics. hopefully Ill hit it by october/november. Wish me luck.
GL to you.... whats done is done so make the best of it, train and eat like a animal and youll get there :)

[SwoleCat]

you are a bunch of pussies sorry im negative deal with it. least i tell the truth when i speak and dotn telll kids to take bs supplements like half of you do. yeha take noexp[lode its awesome. haha

You're very close to finding another board to lace with your bullshit while @ your secretary job.

~SC~

[C_Bino]

You're very close to finding another board to lace with your bullshit while @ your secretary job.

~SC~
Thanks Swole. Wow looking back at this thread I wish I had not agreed with Tinyguy. Not because he was wrong but because I just think hes a complete moron as I have said in other threads. Too bad I posted that when he was newer to the site and I didnt know his true colours.

Tinyguy without me getting too offensive here you really need to just keep your mouth shut, you talk as if you are some premier bodybuilder or something, saying we are pussies...what a laugh. You just sit at your desk and keep thinking that. I have seen your pics and I must say if I looked like you I would be embarassed to be making posts boasting about yourself as you do.
You need to learn some respect and you better hope you dont act this same way in person or you got something comin to you.
The proof is always in the pudding, if you want to come in here and flame and make it out like you are a bodybuilding guru and know about diet than I suggest you post up some new pictures of yourself when it looks like you actually lift weights, cuz right now I couldnt tell him apart from a boy scout that comes to sell cookies at my door.

[Superhuman]

you are a bunch of pussies sorry im negative deal with it. least i tell the truth when i speak and dotn telll kids to take bs supplements like half of you do. yeha take noexp[lode its awesome. haha

check yourself buddy - I'm more developed than you, YOUNGER than you, AND I have used no-xlode (and liked it, too!). i'm a nice guy on the board and I try to be very respectful because some of the guys on here are twice my f*ckin size and know what they are talking about. Go ahead and call us pussies in real life and we'll see what happens - actually, on second thought, you probably wouldn't because you look like the *****

[albino-rhino]

Thanks Swole. Wow looking back at this thread I wish I had not agreed with Tinyguy. Not because he was wrong but because I just think hes a complete moron as I have said in other threads. Too bad I posted that when he was newer to the site and I didnt know his true colours.

Tinyguy without me getting too offensive here you really need to just keep your mouth shut, you talk as if you are some premier bodybuilder or something, saying we are pussies...what a laugh. You just sit at your desk and keep thinking that. I have seen your pics and I must say if I looked like you I would be embarassed to be making posts boasting about yourself as you do.
You need to learn some respect and you better hope you dont act this same way in person or you got something comin to you.
The proof is always in the pudding, if you want to come in here and flame and make it out like you are a bodybuilding guru and know about diet than I suggest you post up some new pictures of yourself when it looks like you actually lift weights, cuz right now I couldnt tell him apart from a boy scout that comes to sell cookies at my door.

:lol: I thought I recognized him!
They way he talks I thought he'd be a monster to back up those words. :scratch:

This bulletin is fairly useless now. Whenever i get to 180'ish ill post new progress pics. hopefully Ill hit it by october/november. Wish me luck.

Good luck! Keep us posted.

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Thanks for all the support...again. I cant say it enough.