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lazaro17
09-28-2006, 12:52 PM
if someone has low Testosterone levels naturally(not on a cycle or after one) would taking something like clomid(or anything else) help boost testosterone levels back up.. just wondering

thanks in advance

napoleon
09-29-2006, 01:04 PM
In a word, Yes.

lazaro17
09-29-2006, 02:44 PM
In a word, Yes.

Thank you for your reply napoleon .. so it would be good to take some clomid even without doing a cycle?

and do you guys recommend the clomi from ar ( I dont have any sources for gear).. thanks again

ruffcute
09-29-2006, 02:50 PM
http://forums.anabolicreview.com/showthread.php?t=209758

Nolvadex also has some important features for the steroid using athlete. In hypogonadic and infertile men given nolvadex, increases in the serum levels of LH, FSH, and most importantly, testosterone were all observed (35)It can also block a bit of estrogen in the pituitary, which is a great benefit when used with HCG (more on that later) (36)(37). The increase in testosterone Nolvadex can give someone with a dysfunctional is basically that 20mgs of Nolvadex will raise your testosterone levels about 150% (6)...Why don’t we use Clomid, another SERM? Well, basically because it takes much more to do the same thing. In comparison, it would require 150mgs of Clomid to accomplish that type of elevation in testosterone, but Nolvadex also has the added benefit of significantly increasing the LH
(Leutenizing Hormone) response to LHRH (LH-releasing hormone) (6). This most likely indicates some kind of upregulation of the LH-receptors due to the anti-estrogenic effect Nolvadex has at the pituitary. Although both Nolvadex and Clomid are both SERMs, they are actually quite different. As you already know, Nolvadex is highly anti-estrogenic at the hypothalamus and pituitary, while Clomid exhibits weak estrogenic activity at the pituitary (7), which as you can guess, is less than ideal. It should be avoided for the PCT I’m suggesting…and in fact, avoided in general…it’s simply not as good as Nolvadex.

Need I even add that the 150mgs of Clomid you need to get the hormonal increase experienced with 20mgs of Nolvadex is much more expensive? So lets dump the Clomid…and no, using it along with Nolvadex will provide no “synergy” that I’ve ever seen in any relevant study.

ruffcute
09-29-2006, 02:53 PM
by the way, i wana do nolva without a cycle, becuase of what that says, and because i dont know how to get my pecks better shaped (not sure if its gyno)
does anyone know if gyno can be reveresed with anti estrogens

lazaro17
09-29-2006, 03:13 PM
by the way, i wana do nolva without a cycle, becuase of what that says, and because i dont know how to get my pecks better shaped (not sure if its gyno)
does anyone know if gyno can be reveresed with anti estrogens

thanks for your reply ruff,

nolvadex and I think letro are good for removing the gyno problems once they have occured ..

I think im going to use some tamox and see if that helps .. reading that says it can raise it up to 150% that would be better.. thanks again


___The normal application of Tomoxifen citrate is in the treatment of certain forms of breast cancer in female patients. With Tomoxifen citrate it is possible to reverse an existing growth process of deceased tissue and prevent further growth. ___


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DSM4Life
09-29-2006, 05:04 PM
If you do have low natural test and you want to take someone to help boost you levels just keep in mind whatever you take you will need to take it for the rest of life. Your only using a bandaid to fix the problem. If i was you, i would talk to my doc and not people on a forum.

ruffcute
09-29-2006, 05:25 PM
true say. if u know for sure that you have low test naturally, then definetly go see your doctor about a fix, they might be able to perscribe something (might be cheaper, u never know), but i dont know if it matters to you on a general day basis, or if u just wana get your levels up to train, either way good luck buddy

lazaro17
09-29-2006, 10:08 PM
If you do have low natural test and you want to take someone to help boost you levels just keep in mind whatever you take you will need to take it for the rest of life. Your only using a bandaid to fix the problem. If i was you, i would talk to my doc and not people on a forum.

thanx for your reply DSM,

I say naturally because I have not used any gear or anything that would lower it so I figure it just naturally went low on its own,lol.. I am going to the doctor, just had a test done about a month ago and thats when I found out.. when I went back, my doctor called in sick so I did not have a chance to see him yet, so until my next visit I was doing some research of my own..

thanks for your advice, take care

AR-R
09-29-2006, 11:13 PM
lots of things can lower your test levels ...smoking Pot .....cigaretts ...Beer.....Diet can play a big roll too.There are natural ways to get you body to produce very high levels of test .

lazaro17
09-30-2006, 11:51 AM
lots of things can lower your test levels ...smoking Pot .....cigaretts ...Beer.....Diet can play a big roll too.There are natural ways to get you body to produce very high levels of test .

well lion you might have hit the nail on the head(you read my profile hehe)me and maryjane have been going steady for many years(at least 22 years)..you know I did not even think about it but thats probably the problem right there.. I dont have any problems with woody yet, he still is ready at the call of duty, and im not worried about the swimmers (fertility) I dont plan on having anymore children.. But would like it higher for my over all mental and physical health ..

thanks for your response lion, can you point me towards the right direction and give me some insight on some of the natural ways to boost it back up.

any of your advice will be greatly appreciated