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Fat Ryan
11-15-2006, 08:28 PM
I been doing some research on both of these suppliments, and I think I would be better suited for an ECA stack (at least as of now). Id also feel safer taking ECA, mainly because clen is illegal here and I know nothing about it. I know ephedrine is illegal too, but from what I understand its really not that bad for you as long as you keep it within resonable dosages. The dosages I have been seeing posted most often for ECA stack is about...

Ephedrine 25mg x3/ED
Caffeine 200mg x3/ED
Asprin 325mg x3/ED

Now im 6'4 and currently 295 lbs, so I was wondering if this should be raised at all because of my size...? Also, what brands are good to use and where can I buy them? I say your basic asprin at Eckerd today, will that work, or even excedrin? For some reason though, I couldn't find any caffeine at Eckerd, maybe I was looking in the wrong section. But whats a good brand of caffeine to use? And since Ephedrine is illegal in the US, I will have to order some online. Where from, and what brand? Oh, and I also purchased some Flax oil and B-100 suppliments today. Will those affect my ECA stack? Thank you

Fat Ryan
11-16-2006, 01:34 PM
bump

perfectbeast2001
11-16-2006, 01:51 PM
you can buy ephedrine in the USA. It is sold as a decongestant. Any aspirin is fine, same with caffiene. As long as you get the correct dose you are good to go. Dosage is not dependant on size. Some people tolerate stimulants well and others dont, it is not size related. I would just stick to the reccomended dose. No your supps will not affect ECA.

Fat Ryan
11-16-2006, 07:14 PM
you can buy ephedrine in the USA. It is sold as a decongestant. Any aspirin is fine, same with caffiene. As long as you get the correct dose you are good to go. Dosage is not dependant on size. Some people tolerate stimulants well and others dont, it is not size related. I would just stick to the reccomended dose. No your supps will not affect ECA.
ok thanx bro. i coulda swore ephadrine was illegal in the US now, maybe it just in PA. Well then i guess ill just do a quick google, thanx again

Yesevil
11-16-2006, 07:57 PM
ok thanx bro. i coulda swore ephadrine was illegal in the US now, maybe it just in PA. Well then i guess ill just do a quick google, thanx again
It used to be but the just lifted the ban about a year ago. You can that stack online already put together for you if you do a little searching on the supp stores. Good luck.

magic32
11-26-2006, 11:30 AM
It used to be but the just lifted the ban about a year ago. You can that stack online already put together for you if you do a little searching on the supp stores. Good luck.
This is largely incorrect, but bears an element of truth. Permit me to explain:

It is still banned by the US Supreme Court, however, supplement companies have appealed this ruling at the state level, and some state supreme courts have overturned the ban making it legal within those specific states only.

Ephedrine and Ephedra are not the same, the former is essentially the alcohol component of the later. As Beast stated Ephedrine is both legal and available throughout the US, though it is weaker than Ephedra. Other good substitutes which mimic Ephedra include L-Tyrosine and Synepherine.

Yes, you can build your own stack from the component ingredients, and it isn't hard to find them...do some surfing.

No, Flax and "B" vits do not adversely affect the stack. Because of their properties, they'll actually augment it.

Lastly, another VERY good synergistic ingredient is Yohimbine, so good in fact that it is typically added or substituted as ECAY or ECY respectively.

M.

CoreyTampa09
11-26-2006, 07:43 PM
So wait magic your saying since ephedrine isnt as strong as ephedra...stalc it with L-Tyrosine and Synephrine to get the same effect or am I not getting it?

ash146
11-26-2006, 08:06 PM
Essentially what Magic said - you could drop the Asprin and sub it with yohimbine hcl. i did that and it found it better than your typical ECA. I also ran some ALCAR too, which i find helps.

Fat Ryan
11-27-2006, 03:47 PM
ok thanx guys. would you say its better to run an ECAY stack or ECY stack then? and how much should i take?

Fat Ryan
11-27-2006, 04:00 PM
i just searched for ephedra on google and this forum, and found no place to buy it. i see many things for ephedrine or ephedra alternatives, but no ephedra. what should i do? PM me if u got a link to help me out.

Danny_Dice
11-27-2006, 05:11 PM
Yohimbine should be included in the stack, but it is an added stimulant....

try vasapro or straight up E pills

go to ephedrineforsale.com is where i usually get my shit from but they take forever to ship and they also have the old xenadrine formula as well

Danny_Dice
11-27-2006, 05:13 PM
i have been taking lipo 6, Yohimbine, and E pills for about 2 weeks now...down around 15 pounds with good diet and 30 mins of cardio a day

from what it sounds like u need to lose a lot of weight unless u are carrying muscle mass i dont know cause u state ur BF %

stick to cardio, low card diet with the stimulants and u will be good to go.

Danny_Dice
11-27-2006, 05:14 PM
meant to type..."cause u did not state"

NOREGRETS
11-27-2006, 05:23 PM
you can buy ephedrine in the USA. It is sold as a decongestant. Any aspirin is fine, same with caffiene. As long as you get the correct dose you are good to go. Dosage is not dependant on size. Some people tolerate stimulants well and others dont, it is not size related. I would just stick to the reccomended dose. No your supps will not affect ECA.

Your now required to fill out a form with you address and phone number with an valid ID to purchase any decongestant. Something due to ppl buying them to make meth with I think.

Fat Ryan
11-27-2006, 05:53 PM
ok well i dont want to wait forever for that 1 site, so ill pay a little more and get vasapro. funny hearing it called "E pills" cause i actually lost 100lbs when i was doing Extacy, ha ha. now that would be a stack! and a fun one at that

Fat Ryan
11-27-2006, 06:51 PM
after some searching, i found a site that sells vasapro for $10 a 24pk of 25mg pills. but when i ordered 4 packs, my subtotal came to $39.60...so i guess that makes them $9.90/pk...sweet!

Sepsis
11-27-2006, 09:34 PM
http://www.mysupplementstore.com/vawepbymein.html

pretty cheap here too

Fat Ryan
11-27-2006, 11:37 PM
http://www.mysupplementstore.com/vawepbymein.html

pretty cheap here too
yeah, too bad the "item is discontinued". that would be a sweetass deal though

Danny_Dice
11-28-2006, 08:58 PM
yeah i realized that when i typed in E pills...hahhahhaha i dont have experience with it but i do know people who got addicted to coke and lost liek 50 pounds in a month lol

yeah i like vasapro but the guafensin is bullshit so the stuff i got is just straight up 25 mg ephedrine HCL pills

but to be honest, the synephrine i'm taking is soo good, i have no appetite anymore and sumtimes i have to force feed myself just to get food in me...

Danny_Dice
11-28-2006, 10:07 PM
after some searching, i found a site that sells vasapro for $10 a 24pk of 25mg pills. but when i ordered 4 packs, my subtotal came to $39.60...so i guess that makes them $9.90/pk...sweet!


hey what site dude??? i'm loooking to reorder up and i dont want to wait long for my shit either...thanks

rubix6
11-29-2006, 07:52 PM
So wait magic your saying since ephedrine isnt as strong as ephedra...stalc it with L-Tyrosine and Synephrine to get the same effect or am I not getting it?

me either??!!!

Fat Ryan
11-30-2006, 12:56 AM
yeah i realized that when i typed in E pills...hahhahhaha i dont have experience with it but i do know people who got addicted to coke and lost liek 50 pounds in a month lol

yeah i like vasapro but the guafensin is bullshit so the stuff i got is just straight up 25 mg ephedrine HCL pills

but to be honest, the synephrine i'm taking is soo good, i have no appetite anymore and sumtimes i have to force feed myself just to get food in me...
damn, i wish i would have to force myself to eat lol

Fat Ryan
11-30-2006, 12:58 AM
hey what site dude??? i'm loooking to reorder up and i dont want to wait long for my shit either...thanks
https://workoutsupplies.com/productDetail.asp?pid=V240

haha, looks like they actually changed it to $9.90 a pack now, tards

boarder034
11-30-2006, 10:28 AM
http://www.******.com/articles/ephed1.htm

Good Article on This shiz bro's

Danny_Dice
12-01-2006, 12:35 AM
http://www.******.com/articles/ephed1.htm

Good Article on This shiz bro's


good shit bro, thanks, thats why i take both..

Crowned
12-01-2006, 05:13 AM
damn, i wish i would have to force myself to eat lol

I know really, where you getting that supressant from?

Danny_Dice
12-01-2006, 07:47 PM
I know really, where you getting that supressant from?


synephrine is an appetite supressent....its the main reason i take lipo 6 and i add ephedrine which makes it like the old xenadrine....

old xenadrine had synephrine in it.

Danny_Dice
12-01-2006, 07:49 PM
honestly, vasapro is always talked about on here but 9 bucks is too much for me for ephedrine pills.....i got straight up ephedrine pills without the guifensin from ephedrineforsale.com , 200 tabs was only 50 bucks!! only prob with that site is the shit comes out of canada and takes mad long to get here through the mail even when paying for faster shipping....

Fat Ryan
12-04-2006, 04:59 PM
I know really, where you getting that supressant from?
what supressant?

Danny_Dice
12-04-2006, 05:08 PM
what supressant?


i only take LIPO 6 cause it curves my appetite, it is because of the synephrine in there. 20mg of it per dosing.


did u find a site that only has ephedrine for slae w/o the gufensin??? i might just suck it up and get the vasapro, also how fast did u get the vasapro u ordered from that site u told me about?

Crowned
12-04-2006, 07:14 PM
Doesnt lipo cost like 30? Is their a cheaper way to get that supressant?

Danny_Dice
12-13-2006, 12:58 PM
im about to order from that site dude, did u get ur shit in a timely manner?

Fat Ryan
12-13-2006, 09:49 PM
i got my vasapro on monday, kinda a long time, but not too bad