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Reelmuscle
12-22-2006, 08:06 PM
Well, after being out of the gym for one year and losing about 15 lbs of pure muscle, I am very down on myself and have been very insecure about my physique. Now, after being in the gym for just 3 mths after the 1 year lay off, I am starting to look descent again, thank god for muscle memory (and hard work, of course). I want to post these pics mainly because I want criticizim and so I can bring this thread back TTT 6 mths from now when I take new ones for comparison sake. Lets hear your opinions, comments, suggestions, and criticizims!!

26 yo
5'8
168 lbs
12 % (assuming)

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3194/dsc03352aq9.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6360/legfc4.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7599/sidechestyr2.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5377/backoj4.jpg

abstrack
12-22-2006, 08:08 PM
you look more then 168lbs

FaizakaFez
12-22-2006, 08:10 PM
Very thick bro...

Arms/Delts are massive... 3 months back looking great :thumbsup:

Thats a pretty big 168 in my opinion!

perfectbeast2001
12-22-2006, 08:11 PM
looking good and thick man. As above you look beefy as hell for 168!!

Reelmuscle
12-22-2006, 08:14 PM
Thanks guys, it feels good to hear that.

Now, crticizims!!..:)

FaizakaFez
12-22-2006, 08:15 PM
Thanks guys, it feels good to hear that.

Now, what needs improvement and how do i go about improving it?


Well what are your current goals?


I think.. you could use some lat work/growth imo

abstrack
12-22-2006, 08:16 PM
The oly thing I could see that would need to catch up is your calves. Other then that, I would just keep getting bigger.

Reelmuscle
12-22-2006, 08:17 PM
Very thick bro...

Arms/Delts are massive... 3 months back looking great :thumbsup:

Thats a pretty big 168 in my opinion!

Thanks man. Amrs and delts have always been my strong points from day 1.

Reelmuscle
12-22-2006, 08:19 PM
Well what are your current goals?


I think.. you could use some lat work/growth imo

Current goals is to look big. I love working out, and I love putting on my shirt that I bought last month and feeling that I am too big for it due to diet and dedication within that month.

You are very right. My lats and calves are almost IMPOSSIBLE to get bigger. While my arms and delts have always been my strong point, my lats and calves seem like they just NEVER grow, and frankly, it is very annoying.

Any suggestions?

FaizakaFez
12-22-2006, 08:21 PM
Current goals is to look big. I love working out, and I love putting on my shirt that I bought last month and feeling that I am too big for it due to diet and dedication within that month.

You are very right. My lats and calves are almost IMPOSSIBLE to get bigger. While my arms and delts have always been my strong point, my lats and calves seem like they just NEVER grow, and frankly, it is very annoying.

Any suggestions?


what are you doing for Lats/Calves right now...


My arms suck.. i was over training them badly.. Now that i have learned through the help of a good buddy. I hit them twice a weak but only 3 excercises a week... and yeilding decent gains soo far..

Reelmuscle
12-22-2006, 08:28 PM
what are you doing for Lats/Calves right now...


My arms suck.. i was over training them badly.. Now that i have learned through the help of a good buddy. I hit them twice a weak but only 3 excercises a week... and yeilding decent gains soo far..

For calves, I usually do them after quads, with 2-3 sets of very controlled movements. I just go on the smith machine and load a 45 and a 25 on each side, step on a stepper and come all the way down and all the way up, very smooth and controlled, for about 35 reps each set to where it REALLY burns.

But, even before when I was heavily into working out, I would give calves a day (or even two) for themselves alone and they just dont respond. It's crazy.

For back day, I do pull ups, bent over rows, seated rows, and one arm db rows.

Do you see any flaws in my choice of exercises?

thetank
12-22-2006, 08:39 PM
lookin good man. for 3 months back in the gym i certainly dont have any criticism. are you natural or have you dont any past cycles? keep doing what you are doing, and you could hit 200 in no time...(if you were looking to keep bulking up)
im coming off a year and a 1/2 off hte gym myself...i had mad health problems that no doctor could diagnose..after finally getting in with a specialist it turns out i have a torn diaphragm, and hiatal hernia. ive been back working out now for a month, and even tho i cant really do much more than high reps with a set of 40 lb dumbells while i await a possible surgery, its ****in awesome to see myself fill out again. anyway, i know what its like to be out of hte gym for a long time, and finally get back in it...keep busting your ass man, its paying off.

Reelmuscle
12-22-2006, 08:50 PM
lookin good man. for 3 months back in the gym i certainly dont have any criticism. are you natural or have you dont any past cycles? keep doing what you are doing, and you could hit 200 in no time...(if you were looking to keep bulking up)
im coming off a year and a 1/2 off hte gym myself...i had mad health problems that no doctor could diagnose..after finally getting in with a specialist it turns out i have a torn diaphragm, and hiatal hernia. ive been back working out now for a month, and even tho i cant really do much more than high reps with a set of 40 lb dumbells while i await a possible surgery, its ****in awesome to see myself fill out again. anyway, i know what its like to be out of hte gym for a long time, and finally get back in it...keep busting your ass man, its paying off.

Hey bro, I am gald to hear you are back in the gym. Keep it up.

I have done one cycle in the past in my bb career. I did a test / M1T cycle for 10 weeks. It was great..:wg:

I am not looking to get in on any gear right now. I am growing with hard work and diet, and that is all that is important right now. Once I see a plateau in growth, I will probably get on a simple test cycle.

Here is what I looked like 2 mths ago when I got back into the gym after being away for 1 year (Ahh, it hurts my eyes, LOL). As you can see, muscle memory saved my life. I got down to 150 here (From 180, where I was my biggest)

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9571/dsc03193sw5.jpg

thetank
12-22-2006, 08:56 PM
thanks for the encouragement dude.
shit man, youve got great genetics..and are growing rapidly. that pic really puts your progress into perspective. keep it up man, you'll be a ****in monster in no time.

Reelmuscle
12-22-2006, 08:59 PM
thanks for the encouragement dude.
shit man, youve got great genetics..and are growing rapidly. that pic really puts your progress into perspective. keep it up man, you'll be a ****in monster in no time.

Thanks bro. Right back atcha.

Andorious
12-22-2006, 09:00 PM
are you sure your 168? you look good man, really solid. i found that heavy t-bar (close grip) worked well for me for a while. just make sure you change it up once in a while.

t-gunz
12-22-2006, 09:06 PM
the only thing i can critisize is that you could get a tan.. lol.. other wise looking good bro

Reelmuscle
12-22-2006, 09:18 PM
are you sure your 168? you look good man, really solid. i found that heavy t-bar (close grip) worked well for me for a while. just make sure you change it up once in a while.

hehe, I am sure. I am actually 168 lbs on a good day. I don't know why I look so much bigger, but I dont show it on the scale. I never have. When I got to 180 before, people were telling me I look like i am 220+. Must be the tiny joints and the small bones.

Reelmuscle
12-22-2006, 09:19 PM
the only thing i can critisize is that you could get a tan.. lol.. other wise looking good bro

:wg:

LatinoPR
12-22-2006, 10:17 PM
Good job...!!!!!






LPR.

Kale
12-22-2006, 10:35 PM
No way you are 168 and 5'8" that is for sure, more like 185-190 to me

chest6
12-22-2006, 11:22 PM
You look MUCH bigger than 168. Progress from when you got back into the gym til now is crazyyy

getpaid
12-22-2006, 11:39 PM
Great transformation, Keep up the hard work..However you said you were having a hard time getting your back to grow but I did not see that you had deadlifts in your routine.. Might want to throw those in there and I gaurantee it grows..Good luck reaching your goals...

fast
12-23-2006, 12:16 AM
Yeah, very nice progress :)

And for back, deadlift will blow it up. Just make sure you take enough time from it to recover, it really jams back.

Cheers ! :7up:

Reelmuscle
12-23-2006, 12:27 AM
No way you are 168 and 5'8" that is for sure, more like 185-190 to me

hehe, if I were to post my pics when I was 180, you would think I was 230.

Like I said, I dont know exactly why I weigh what I do. I have very skinny ankles, wrists, neck, etc. I think it is because I am very small jointed, small boned, small framed guy. I dont know, beats me.

As far as dead lifts, you guys are right, I don't do them. But then again, what do dead lifts have to do with lats?

It's like I almost want to give up on lats and calves (which I never will, of course) because they don't grow. Lats grow but at a very small rate, calves NEVER grow. I can have 26" quads and my calves will stay at 15.5 inches. :scratch:

Reelmuscle
12-23-2006, 12:28 AM
Thanks again guys for the kind words. I can't wait to post another set of pics in 3-4 mths.

Kale
12-23-2006, 12:52 AM
hehe, if I were to post my pics when I was 180, you would think I was 230.

Like I said, I dont know exactly why I weigh what I do. I have very skinny ankles, wrists, neck, etc. I think it is because I am very small jointed, small boned, small framed guy. I dont know, beats me.

As far as dead lifts, you guys are right, I don't do them. But then again, what do dead lifts have to do with lats?

It's like I almost want to give up on lats and calves (which I never will, of course) because they don't grow. Lats grow but at a very small rate, calves NEVER grow. I can have 26" quads and my calves will stay at 15.5 inches. :scratch:
Well in that case I hate you, A LOT !!! :wg: I am 5'8" and 180 and I dont look anywhere near as big as you do !!!

getpaid
12-23-2006, 12:54 AM
Deads will make your whole back grow even your lats..Do them for a couple months and then post pics again, and you will see the results ..Good Luck

Reelmuscle
12-23-2006, 01:02 AM
Deads will make your whole back grow even your lats..Do them for a couple months and then post pics again, and you will see the results ..Good Luck

Ok, I might give them a try. I will probably start with rack dead lifts (smith machine) and warm my way to the free weights (Only because I have never done them before)

All I know is that pull ups are not doing the trick for lats..:(

IBdmfkr
12-23-2006, 02:48 AM
Damn good change so far.. keep it up and post some pics in the spring.

Superhuman
12-23-2006, 02:54 AM
very impressive progress! BTW you look a lot like Lou Ferrigno, does anyone else see that?

muscles1981
12-23-2006, 02:59 AM
looking good real solid bro

jbarkley
12-23-2006, 10:10 AM
Good for you Bro, why the year layoff?

Blome
12-23-2006, 10:28 AM
very impressive progress! BTW you look a lot like Lou Ferrigno, does anyone else see that?
That's exactly what I thought when I saw that first pic.

spywizard
12-23-2006, 10:42 AM
very impressive progress! BTW you look a lot like Lou Ferrigno, does anyone else see that?

thank you... that is it...

lats too small, back not thick enough, and no calfs...

shoulders aren't wide enough.. (genetics) so you have to do what you can..

i would look into IGF and do spot injections for the lats and calfs..

get a tan, using MT2 which will help with fat lose as well..

and i'd like to see what high rep/low weight 3 months would do to your body..

you were somewhat unclear on what your goals were..

Congradulations on your transformation, i'd also like to see your diet during these 3 months..

Mighty Joe
12-23-2006, 10:51 AM
That's exactly what I thought when I saw that first pic.

Funny, I thought Jerry Seinfeld with muscles!:lol:

Chemical King
12-23-2006, 10:55 AM
Well, after being out of the gym for one year and losing about 15 lbs of pure muscle, I am very down on myself and have been very insecure about my physique. Now, after being in the gym for just 3 mths after the 1 year lay off, I am starting to look descent again, thank god for muscle memory (and hard work, of course). I want to post these pics mainly because I want criticizim and so I can bring this thread back TTT 6 mths from now when I take new ones for comparison sake. Lets hear your opinions, comments, suggestions, and criticizims!!

26 yo
5'8
168 lbs
12 % (assuming)

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3194/dsc03352aq9.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6360/legfc4.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7599/sidechestyr2.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5377/backoj4.jpg

bro, u look fukn awsum.

Reelmuscle
12-23-2006, 12:08 PM
i would look into IGF and do spot injections for the lats and calfs..

get a tan, using MT2 which will help with fat lose as well..

and i'd like to see what high rep/low weight 3 months would do to your body..

you were somewhat unclear on what your goals were..

Congradulations on your transformation, i'd also like to see your diet during these 3 months..

:scratch:

Reelmuscle
12-23-2006, 12:09 PM
Good for you Bro, why the year layoff?

Got a job, got married, etc. I wasn't used to all that, and I was not able to balance my life right. You live and learn I guess. I am back into it now managing my life better and that is all that matters.

Reelmuscle
12-23-2006, 12:10 PM
Thanks everyone for the responses. I am looking forward to posting my new set of pics up come spring time.

Yes, I have been told million times over and over again that I look like Lou. lol

DutchCowboy
12-23-2006, 05:05 PM
Sorry bro, but.....:bsflag:

No F'ing way you made these changes in 2 months......no F'ing way.

Reelmuscle
12-23-2006, 05:45 PM
Sorry bro, but.....:bsflag:

No F'ing way you made these changes in 2 months......no F'ing way.

Ya, your right. I am lying for no reason. And, the camera dates are lying too.

It is obvious you didn't read my entire thread to understand whats going on. Until you do, I wont waste my time trying to explain.

DutchCowboy
12-23-2006, 06:09 PM
Ya, your right. I am lying for no reason. And, the camera dates are lying too.

It is obvious you didn't read my entire thread to understand whats going on. Until you do, I wont waste my time trying to explain.


No need to bro. Not flaming you, but there is no way that is possible in 2 months natty. Say what you want but I don't believe it for a second. The difference in the pics is like 30+ pounds....at least!

Oh...and here is Fez after 2 months....you guys must lift together!

Reelmuscle
12-23-2006, 06:19 PM
No need to bro. Not flaming you, but there is no way that is possible in 2 months natty. Say what you want but I don't believe it for a second. The difference in the pics is like 30+ pounds....at least!

Oh...and here is Fez after 2 months....you guys must lift together!

You don't have to believe me, that is ok with me.

Just remember one thing, that muscle memory exists. I was really big when I quit working out 1 year ago, much bigger than I am now. Here is a pic 1 yr ago of me before I stopped working out at 180 lbs:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/130/frtdblbn2.jpg

So, as you can see, and if you know anything about muscle memory, you would know that the body can catch back up FAST once back into the gym with the proper diet, training, sleep, etc even after a 1 yr lay off. I have no reason to lie, and believe me, if I grew using roids in this past 2 mths while I got back in the gym, I have no shame in saying it. I already admited that I have one cycle on my belt, and hell, I can't wait for my next one.

Anyway, this is what it is, and if you don't believe me, there is nothing I can do. But hey, thanks, as your not believing is a compliment for my achievements..:wg:

DutchCowboy
12-23-2006, 08:01 PM
Hey bro, I am gald to hear you are back in the gym. Keep it up.

I have done one cycle in the past in my bb career. I did a test / M1T cycle for 10 weeks. It was great..:wg:

I am not looking to get in on any gear right now. I am growing with hard work and diet, and that is all that is important right now. Once I see a plateau in growth, I will probably get on a simple test cycle.



Hmmmmmm? :scratch:
I'd say that is a lie..... http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=173840

Anyway bro, cudos to you because you look really good. Damn big in fact. Maybe it is just a bad pic/angle from 2 months ago but I went back and looked at all your posted pics from 2004 'til now, and NONE of them do you look anywhere near as small as you do in this pic in October. To me you look a lot younger in the pic.....a lot.

abstrack
12-23-2006, 08:12 PM
Hmmmmmm? :scratch:
I'd say that is a lie..... http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=173840

Anyway bro, cudos to you because you look really good. Damn big in fact. Maybe it is just a bad pic/angle from 2 months ago but I went back and looked at all your posted pics from 2004 'til now, and NONE of them do you look anywhere near as small as you do in this pic in October. To me you look a lot younger in the pic.....a lot.

Dammmm.. BUSTED:?:

Reelmuscle
12-23-2006, 08:55 PM
Nope, noone is busted. I never followed through with that cycle due to personal reasons. Like I said, I have done ONE CYCLE only!!

This is getting pathetic. I came on here for crticizims, not to play games. If you don't want to believe that was me in the first pic, that's fine. It really doesn't matter to me.

Reelmuscle
12-23-2006, 08:57 PM
Hmmmmmm? :scratch:
I'd say that is a lie..... http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=173840

Anyway bro, cudos to you because you look really good. Damn big in fact. Maybe it is just a bad pic/angle from 2 months ago but I went back and looked at all your posted pics from 2004 'til now, and NONE of them do you look anywhere near as small as you do in this pic in October. To me you look a lot younger in the pic.....a lot.

I love how YOU are telling ME that the pic i posted of ME is NOT ME on Oct 22nd. lol, hilarious.

Thanks for the replies everyone. I will post new pics up in the spring.

FaizakaFez
12-23-2006, 10:25 PM
edited

FaizakaFez
12-24-2006, 01:51 AM
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=276931

Hackamaniac
12-24-2006, 10:16 AM
Dutch cowboy,

You dumb **** please read my thread... Did i post the pics? No skulls-smasher photoshoped and POSTED them for me to see what I can be like.


:owned:

U have some badass biceps in that photoshopped pic:)

Timm1704
12-24-2006, 11:48 AM
Funny, I thought Jerry Seinfeld with muscles!:lol:

BAHAHAHA! thats even better than lou! he does look like seinfeld. as for the results, and their credibility: i too believe deeply in muscle memory. i went from looking big, having shoulder surgery, and then being told by a close friend that i now didnt even look like id ever trained, then within 2 months of training i was back to where i was before. this was also natty. then i jumped on my first cycle. looking great bro, altho 1980 called, they want their hair back :wg: just playin

jbarkley
12-24-2006, 12:10 PM
Got a job, got married, etc. I wasn't used to all that, and I was not able to balance my life right. You live and learn I guess. I am back into it now managing my life better and that is all that matters.
Good for you...you need to live a balanced life...believe me, I know what I'm talking about....

Livestrong

jbarkley
12-24-2006, 12:23 PM
By way Reelmuscle, speaking of muscle memory check out a pretty good example of myself on this thread:http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=272506

DutchCowboy
12-24-2006, 01:04 PM
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DutchCowboy
12-24-2006, 01:24 PM
I love how YOU are telling ME that the pic i posted of ME is NOT ME on Oct 22nd. lol, hilarious.

Thanks for the replies everyone. I will post new pics up in the spring.

haha....you big goof! I never said it wasn't you. I simply said that it must be a bad pic (angle, lighting). Yeah, it is obviously you, but IMO... it ain't you 2 months ago. It just doesn't match to any of your other pics.

I commend you on your physique. Looks like you train/eat well.
Let's get back on track so we don't trash the thread any more than we already have. I think you have a great base. looks like your delts are a little behind and you need more development on you outer/lower chest. Arms look really good. Forearms look like they get good work. Maybe just a little work on the lats but hard to tell from just those pics. And the legs...well you already know about those.

Kale
12-24-2006, 01:50 PM
OK children I have had enough of this bullshit. Here is Rule Number 4 taken directly from the Rules, Guidelines and Policies of the Board

4. We have a strict NO FLAME POLICY. if you continually post harassing other members, while offering no helpful or useful information, you will be banned.

It had better stop now or I will be asking Admin to take some action !!

Reelmuscle
12-24-2006, 05:15 PM
haha....you big goof! I never said it wasn't you. I simply said that it must be a bad pic (angle, lighting). Yeah, it is obviously you, but IMO... it ain't you 2 months ago. It just doesn't match to any of your other pics.

I commend you on your physique. Looks like you train/eat well.
Let's get back on track so we don't trash the thread any more than we already have. I think you have a great base. looks like your delts are a little behind and you need more development on you outer/lower chest. Arms look really good. Forearms look like they get good work. Maybe just a little work on the lats but hard to tell from just those pics. And the legs...well you already know about those.

Ok, I wont argue with you about when that pic was taken. You don't believe me, thats cool.

Thanks for the criticizims, that is what I am looking for. I actually never work on my forearms, ever. But I should start to.

Reelmuscle
12-24-2006, 05:17 PM
By way Reelmuscle, speaking of muscle memory check out a pretty good example of myself on this thread:http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=272506

Yup, some people don't understand the power of muscle memory. It is almost like when someone competes and then bulk back up. They will gain weight in such a short period of time, and same can be said about muscle memory when it is combined with proper diet/training.

Looking great man. I am looking to improve on a few weak spots and compare a new set of pics in 3-4 mths.

IBdmfkr
12-24-2006, 11:36 PM
Look great Reelmuscle, keep it up.

I don't directly work forearms but they get indirectly worked constantly.

Reelmuscle
12-25-2006, 12:00 AM
Look great Reelmuscle, keep it up.

I don't directly work forearms but they get indirectly worked constantly.

Thanks bro, and thanks for all of your help through the PM's.

I hope my legs can look half as good as yours one day..:) Take care and have a happy holiday.

t-gunz
12-25-2006, 03:16 AM
Looking awesome... keep up the great work... oh btw i belive you... defintly inspiring thats for sure....

Mista Massive
12-25-2006, 07:02 PM
geez your body looks very familiar.

but the body i'm thinking of claimed he doesn't even use supplements, let alone GEAR.

number twelve
12-26-2006, 01:56 AM
very impressive progress! BTW you look a lot like Lou Ferrigno, does anyone else see that?

haha i thought the same thing.

you look real good bro.

Reelmuscle
12-29-2006, 12:37 AM
Thanks guys.

I am really looking forward to taking my next set of pics in a few mths.