just started training...

[redrocket86]

just started training hard, heres a starting picture

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/bensxi/Photo-0036Jii.jpg?t=1167778131

[StoneGRMI]

Good luck. Check out the bulking diet sticky in the diet section.

[t-gunz]

natty is the best for you IMO... eat well lift hard and it no time you will see gains... best of luck

[MartyMcFly]

Good for you. Read up and ask questions and search. The only way to get info. Good luck.

[redrocket86]

cheers guyz

[perfectbeast2001]

good luck dude.

[Timm1704]

you are nice and lean already bro, and have good muscle definition. if all things are in check (diet, training, rest) you will get good, visible results

[nofear]

DIET! DIET! DIET! Good Luck!

[jbarkley]

Of course natural, but as no fear says Diet! Stay consistant with your training, diet and supps, (protein, etc) and you'll make great gains. One other word of advise, do not overtrain!

Livestrong and Good Luck

[MikeCman]

Bro, I dont think someone that looks 140lbs and only has 26 post should be flaming.

[ronan the barbarian]

wanna start training hard and put on weight.... the natural way!

why are you saying you wanna do it natural when in one thread you say youve bought some sust 250,then in another you say your just about to start a test only cycle.
i think you only said you wanted to go natural cus you dont wanna get flamed ......why dont you just eat some food:shrug: ?????????

[redrocket86]

because at the time i did wanna do it the natural way but theres no way you can achieve the same as with as

[Peducho0113]

I think you have potential go grow natural, have a clean diet, train hard, and rest, you will see gains in no time. Good luck with your goals

[Maldorf]

because at the time i did wanna do it the natural way but theres no way you can achieve the same as with as

The use of AAS wont do a whole lot for you in the long run unless you know how to train hard, eat right,get rest,and do proper PCT. I am willing to guess your knowledge on most of those topics is pretty low, so you are making a mistake if you think taking test is going to add a lot of long lasting muscle to your frame. You really need to gain experience and let your body grow naturally first. I lifted naturally for about 15 yrs before I started using AAS. During those years I went from 140 lbs up to 230 lbs naturally. You are much mistaken if you think AAS will get you to where you want to be without you investing more time.

[Timm1704]

The use of AAS wont do a whole lot for you in the long run unless you know how to train hard, eat right,get rest,and do proper PCT. I am willing to guess your knowledge on most of those topics is pretty low, so you are making a mistake if you think taking test is going to add a lot of long lasting muscle to your frame. You really need to gain experience and let your body grow naturally first. I lifted naturally for about 15 yrs before I started using AAS. During those years I went from 140 lbs up to 230 lbs naturally. You are much mistaken if you think AAS will get you to where you want to be without you investing more time.

agreed. to maintain the muscle added from a cycle diet needs to be spot on, along with PCT and training. diet on paper seems easy, but until you actually experience eating 5000 kcals a day, you wont be familiar with the routine.

if you are adamant on using steroids, make sure that when you come off, just drop the volume in training alittle, like a set here and there (for chest, if whilst on cycle you perform 3 exercises at 5 sets each, when you come off, drop back to 3-4 sets per exercise). continue eating the same amount of calories and the same amount of protein throughout PCT and for acouple of months afterwards, maybe even up the cals alittle.

go read up min the PCT forum until you have that aspect sorted.

you would likely be shocked at what you will gain from bulking WITHOUT steroids, but, good luck regardless

[redrocket86]

update a month or so later:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/bensxi/editedhid.jpg?t=1172927032

[wishmasterATM]

hahahah 1 month dude?..Am i the only one thinking roids??...natural??

[S.P.G]

[QUOTE=redrocket86]update a month or so later:

http://i8.tinypic.com/2sbmq9f.jpg


I made a comparison pic if you don’t mind....

WTF dude! thats some change if your natty good job.......

[wishmasterATM]

If this is natural well dude, heck of a job!

[jbarkley]

Bro, your shoulders are definitely bigger along with your arms, it's pretty tough to see the rest of your physique with the pic you posted....are you training your legs? Keep up the great progress!

[whynot960]

Dude thats awesome keep it up

[kwakisaki]

definetley roids take alook at his posts

[redrocket86]

i've took a bit of sus. But im only in the 3rd week of that and seen as though sus doesnt starting taking effect till week 6-7..........

[kwakisaki]

so ure point is..... ure on them and ure not natural! whats ure height? and weight? thanx

[wishmasterATM]

but have you been working out for a month dude??

[GGallin]

:bs: And I have been working out for 2 days.

[king6]

i've took a bit of sus...........

And the Atlantic Ocean has a dash of salt in it. :icon_roll

[nilrac]

Definitely looks like you have juiced. Atleast to me... alot thicker overall, not just one muscle group. In a month... well, it speaks for itself. Goodluck though!

[wishmasterATM]

And the Atlantic Ocean has a dash of salt in it. :icon_roll
hahahah

[Timm1704]

great results. DEFINATELY not natural. the water gains from sust (or any steroid) start to occur within days

[Schmidty]

nice job bro. natty or not its all good

[Blome]

nice job bro. natty or not its all good
I agree, definitely lookin' better.

[wishmasterATM]

I think everybody agrees with that...but just in 1 month...lol...

[mavsluva]

Keep doing whatever it is that you're doing.

Lookin' great!

[redrocket86]

thanks everyone

[canadian meat]

Looking great man education is key to building a great body and thers tons of it on this site good luck bro

[ronan the barbarian]

im kinda lost.......

when most people want to start a cycle with no propper education/diet/training,they get flamed massively.but this guy does all that and people are congratulating him.
you do look different.but if you have only truelly been training and juicing a month properly just imagine the results with propper diet/traing/sleep etc without juice.but its your health,life and whatever else,

oh what pct you got lined up,if any?

[redrocket86]

im kinda lost.......

when most people want to start a cycle with no propper education/diet/training,they get flamed massively.but this guy does all that and people are congratulating him.
you do look different.but if you have only truelly been training and juicing a month properly just imagine the results with propper diet/traing/sleep etc without juice.but its your health,life and whatever else,

oh what pct you got lined up,if any?

novadex and clomid.

Thing is though i was in reasonable shape and my body fat was how i wanted it. I dont see the reason why people would start on steroids whwn there bodyfat is too high etc, why not just wait untill it was how you wanted before you start. You say i could have had better results? well who said there results? i've only been on sus for just over 3 weeks now? its only supposed to kick in around week 5-6 and i havent noticed any strength gains at all? So it aint exactly a result its the beginning

[ronan the barbarian]

novadex and clomid.

Thing is though i was in reasonable shape and my body fat was how i wanted it. I dont see the reason why people would start on steroids whwn there bodyfat is too high etc, why not just wait untill it was how you wanted before you start. You say i could have had better results? well who said there results? i've only been on sus for just over 3 weeks now? its only supposed to kick in around week 5-6 and i havent noticed any strength gains at all? So it aint exactly a result its the beginning

yawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what i was saying if you read it properly is if youve acheived that in 3 weeks almost natty,quit the gear and train properly for a year and you will look superb then try juice.

you must be a genetic freak of nature to change your body composition that much in a maximum of only 21 workouts imo