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Eagleized2
01-09-2007, 11:34 PM
hey guys let me know what ya think.
19 years old
6'2"
215 lbs
BF% unknown any ideas?
been lifting off and on for 2.5 years
i play soccer in college but i'm a goalie so i'm in pretty good physical shape; my body is just lackign a bit.

Eagleized2
01-09-2007, 11:35 PM
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Eagleized2
01-09-2007, 11:36 PM
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Eagleized2
01-09-2007, 11:40 PM
i've thought about trying a cycle... any suggestions?

*Narkissos*
01-09-2007, 11:44 PM
i've thought about trying a cycle... any suggestions?

Yes.. don't.

Jason865
01-09-2007, 11:46 PM
i've thought about trying a cycle... any suggestions?You look like a guy who has never trained in his life. You doing a cycle makes me want to laugh or puke.


Shame on you lazy.

Eagleized2
01-09-2007, 11:48 PM
i've been trying to diet but my options are somewhat limited being a college student and all.. the healtheyest things around are salad, chicken wraps, and water... any thoughts on a good diet plan for a limited college student?

daytrader
01-10-2007, 12:29 AM
i've been trying to diet but my options are somewhat limited being a college student and all.. the healtheyest things around are salad, chicken wraps, and water... any thoughts on a good diet plan for a limited college student?
Comeon mang, lots of us are in college,,, hit up a costco, BJs, or some wholesaler,, thats number one if you on a limited budget,,

davieric
01-10-2007, 12:37 AM
i'm in university, if ur dedicated it doesn't matter where u are, that's just a bs excuse. if ur living at college residence or renting, it's even easier because u have complete control over what you eat, don't have 2 worry bout parents, etc. and even that's not an excuse. bottom line, if ur gonna make excuses bout y u can't have a good diet, don't bother training. i can guarantee there's at least 500 people on this forum that have a lot more to worry about than college.

it's easy....cook, eat, train and repeat.

*Narkissos*
01-10-2007, 12:47 AM
Ditto...

I'm in University as well.

FaizakaFez
01-10-2007, 12:51 AM
^^^

Ditto University

chest6
01-10-2007, 12:53 AM
i've been trying to diet but my options are somewhat limited being a college student and all.. the healtheyest things around are salad, chicken wraps, and water... any thoughts on a good diet plan for a limited college student?
bullshit. Don't give us that. Im in college too and its not a problem at all. It just depends on how dedicated you want to be. Saying this makes you sound lazy. Giving college as an excuse. I.e. Where I work they dont give breaks every 2 hours like the Lowes here does...I have my food bag at my side at the register and eat every 2 hours. I dont care if i have a customer or not..I'll talk with a mouth full of food.

Anyway..stop making excuses and get it done. Stop by the diet forum.

To the cycle suggestions..see Nark's post. To be honest you barely look like you lift.

Kale
01-10-2007, 01:38 AM
Yes.. don't.
Couldnt have said it better myself. Juice for this guy would be a complete waste of money. BF about 18% as well

dhriscerr
01-10-2007, 01:45 AM
I go to college, own a home, am married have a kid, and I make 12k a year, and my wife makes 20k, I can do it so can you man. A dozen eggs is like 99 cents. Eggwhites are good, Boneless Skinless chicken breast are a bag for like 6 bucks with 10-12 in there, thats like .50 a breast dude. Frozen veggies bag is a buck, oatmeal is rediculously cheap. Its only what you make it man. Tuna is cheap. The only way its going to start racking up is steak and fish if you go that route. But its easy, Dont!

I'mdoingitagin!
01-10-2007, 01:50 AM
Talk about badgering the witness!!! But your in a room with professionals (except me) u better listen. Hopefully college taught you how to do that!

*Narkissos*
01-10-2007, 01:55 AM
hey guys let me know what ya think.
19 years old
6'2"
215 lbs
BF% unknown any ideas?
been lifting off and on for 2.5 years
i play soccer in college but i'm a goalie so i'm in pretty good physical shape; my body is just lackign a bit.

22% give or take

Eagleized2
01-10-2007, 11:21 AM
i go to an out-of-state Private D3 University in the middle of nowhere. Any ideas for preparing healthy food while living in the dorms? cookware is limited.

FaizakaFez
01-10-2007, 11:26 AM
do u have a microwave?

If so u can make oats,brown rice, yams, potatoes all in the microwave

Do u have a can opener? Now u can eat chicken, tuna,salmon, turkey

Do you have outlet? Now u can buy a grill and cook chicken beef bison buffalo....

No excuses

Eagleized2
01-10-2007, 11:34 AM
yes. i have and can get most of that stuff

Random
01-10-2007, 11:44 AM
You look like a guy who has never trained in his life. You doing a cycle makes me want to laugh or puke.


Shame on you lazy

Jason for once i agree with you.....

chest6
01-10-2007, 03:05 PM
i go to an out-of-state Private D3 University in the middle of nowhere. Any ideas for preparing healthy food while living in the dorms? cookware is limited.
LOL stop making excuses.

Heres all I have at school and all I need. 1 frying pan. 1 george foreman grill. Had a rice cooker but I no longer cook rice. Bunch of paper plates/bowls. All you need is a microwave, an electrical outlet..and access to a stove. Thats it. Sometimes in my dorm they will close our kitchen so ill go next door and make my food in their kitchen :lol:

No excuses.

Dog-Slime
01-10-2007, 04:31 PM
do u have a microwave?

If so u can make oats,brown rice, yams, potatoes all in the microwave

Do u have a can opener? Now u can eat chicken, tuna,salmon, turkey

Do you have outlet? Now u can buy a grill and cook chicken beef bison buffalo....

No excuses

Maybe a dumb question but what kind of chicken comes in a can? Dont think I have seen that.

FaizakaFez
01-10-2007, 04:39 PM
Maybe a dumb question but what kind of chicken comes in a can? Dont think I have seen that.


http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/Images/Misc.%20Images/Canned%20Chunked%20Chicken%20150.jpg



http://i4.peapod.com/c/OG/OGSG9.jpg

Swanson Chicken Breast Premium Chunk in Water 98% Fat Free

number twelve
01-10-2007, 04:51 PM
get a george foreman, the smaller one is 20$

Eagleized2
01-10-2007, 06:44 PM
well i got all that stuff.. but i think its worth a try seeing as how i go to a private d3 school to make some arrangement with the cafeteria advisor where they could cook up my diet specific meals. I think they might have something like this already but i'm not sure.. tuition cost enough.. (34k/year) so they prob do. i'm looking into it.

Maldorf
01-10-2007, 10:11 PM
well i got all that stuff.. but i think its worth a try seeing as how i go to a private d3 school to make some arrangement with the cafeteria advisor where they could cook up my diet specific meals. I think they might have something like this already but i'm not sure.. tuition cost enough.. (34k/year) so they prob do. i'm looking into it.

When I was in college I managed to eat just fine and never let myself get out of shape. I rememeber going on a rough diet where I mostly ate egg whites and salad for meals. I would go to the dining hall that was all you can eat and chose stuff that was healthy. If you want it bad enough you can make it work. No excuse for you to be blaming it on college. Willing to guess too that your exercise reigme isnt up to par either, otherwise you could deal with a less than perfect diet.

the last thing you need now is AAS.

Eagleized2
01-10-2007, 10:53 PM
i'm working on getting cut, i'm following a 5 meal a day plan with a pre breakfast cardio and later in the day lifting. i did some research and picked the one that i thought would work best for me.

heres what i have so far.
Morning
Cardio Empty stomach
45min Heart rate between 140-150

Meal #1:
8 egg whites: 180 cal, 0g fat, 6g carb, 36g protein
1/2 packs oatmeal or raw oats: 340 cal, 4g fat, 68g carb, 8g protein
1 Cup skim milk: 90 cal, 0g fat, 13g carb, 8g protein

Meal #2:
Tuna Fish Sandwhich (3oz serving tuna plus 2 slices whole wheat bread): 270 cal, 4g fat, 34g carb, 27g protein
Lettuce: 45 cal, 1.5g fat, 8g carb, 3g protein

Lift one hour after meal #2 at about 1pm
Lift monday-friday concentrating on one muscle group per day
(Monday-chest, Tuesday-Back, Wednesday-Shoulders, Thursday-Legs, Friday-Arms, Sat/Sun-Off)

Meal #3:
8oz chicken breast (baked): 220 cal, 2g fat, 0g carb, 50g protein
1 Cup Brown Rice: 210 cal, 4.5g fat, 38g carb, 5g protein

1 Cup Skim Milk: 90cal, 0g fat, 13g carb, 8g protein

Meal #4:
8oz Lean Ground Turkey Burger: 320 cal, 16g fat, 0g carb, 44g protein
1 Cup Brown Rice: 210 cal, 4.5g fat, 38g carb, 5g protein


Meal #5:
8oz chicken breast (baked): 220 cal, 2g fat, 0g carb, 50g protein
1.5 Cup Brocoli: 45 cal, 0g fat, 6g carb, 3g protein

The five meals total out to:
2240 cal, 38.5g fat, 224g carb, 247g protein

OR

Meal 1 @ 10am
½ cup oats, 2 scoops whey, multivitamin
Meal 2 @ 12pm
5 oz chicken breast, small salad w/tomato
Meal 3 @ 3pm
1 can tuna, 1 oz almonds
Meal 4 @ 5pm
5 oz chicken breast, small salad w/tomato, 1 tbsp flax
Meal 5 @ 7pm
2 scoops whey
))) Workout (((
Meal 6: PWO @ 10:15
1 cup oats, 2 scoops whey, multivitamin
Meal 7 @ 11pm
1 can tuna, small salad w/tomato, 1 tbsp flax

Daily Total (Pro=270, Carb=117, Fat=85, Cal=2582)

Let me know if you have any ideas/ tweeks..

number twelve
01-10-2007, 11:00 PM
i'm working on getting cut, i'm following a 5 meal a day plan with a pre breakfast cardio and later in the day lifting. i did some research and picked the one that i thought would work best for me.

heres what i have so far.
Morning
Cardio Empty stomach
45min Heart rate between 140-150

Meal #1:
8 egg whites: 180 cal, 0g fat, 6g carb, 36g protein
1/2 packs oatmeal or raw oats: 340 cal, 4g fat, 68g carb, 8g protein
1 Cup skim milk: 90 cal, 0g fat, 13g carb, 8g protein

Meal #2:
Tuna Fish Sandwhich (3oz serving tuna plus 2 slices whole wheat bread): 270 cal, 4g fat, 34g carb, 27g protein
Lettuce: 45 cal, 1.5g fat, 8g carb, 3g protein

Lift one hour after meal #2 at about 1pm
Lift monday-friday concentrating on one muscle group per day
(Monday-chest, Tuesday-Back, Wednesday-Shoulders, Thursday-Legs, Friday-Arms, Sat/Sun-Off)

Meal #3:
8oz chicken breast (baked): 220 cal, 2g fat, 0g carb, 50g protein
1 Cup Brown Rice: 210 cal, 4.5g fat, 38g carb, 5g protein

1 Cup Skim Milk: 90cal, 0g fat, 13g carb, 8g protein

Meal #4:
8oz Lean Ground Turkey Burger: 320 cal, 16g fat, 0g carb, 44g protein
1 Cup Brown Rice: 210 cal, 4.5g fat, 38g carb, 5g protein


Meal #5:
8oz chicken breast (baked): 220 cal, 2g fat, 0g carb, 50g protein
1.5 Cup Brocoli: 45 cal, 0g fat, 6g carb, 3g protein

The five meals total out to:
2240 cal, 38.5g fat, 224g carb, 247g protein

OR

Meal 1 @ 10am
½ cup oats, 2 scoops whey, multivitamin
Meal 2 @ 12pm
5 oz chicken breast, small salad w/tomato
Meal 3 @ 3pm
1 can tuna, 1 oz almonds
Meal 4 @ 5pm
5 oz chicken breast, small salad w/tomato, 1 tbsp flax
Meal 5 @ 7pm
2 scoops whey
))) Workout (((
Meal 6: PWO @ 10:15
1 cup oats, 2 scoops whey, multivitamin
Meal 7 @ 11pm
1 can tuna, small salad w/tomato, 1 tbsp flax

Daily Total (Pro=270, Carb=117, Fat=85, Cal=2582)

Let me know if you have any ideas/ tweeks..

you might get better results if you post this in the diet forum

scribbs12
01-11-2007, 07:27 AM
im a colleg student too... i eat tuna... cheap.... but gets nasty... just started a 6 week tuna diet.. my last one lasted 3 and a half weeks.... trying to get lean for spring break.... well not just tuna.... tuna, protien shakes, 1/2 cup oats in the morning and 1 slice of whole wheat bread after i work out... and veggies .. that are frozen that cost 99cent.. 1-2 hours before i work out... so around 6-8 cans fo tuna a day..... at least 6.. every 2-4 hours.--sickening diet... cause you get tired of eating tuna.. but its worked for me..

MikeCman
01-11-2007, 07:36 AM
Being in college, if anything you should be over eating. I've been to three diff. colleges and every one of them had 1 or even two cafe's in which you can add a meal plan to your tuition. The food is all precooked and all you have to do is show up and stuff your face. Now, I know they dont serve the healthiest food all the time but im sure you can find all the essentials (chicken) being my favorite.

Eagleized2
01-11-2007, 08:37 AM
well i got all that stuff.. but i think its worth a try seeing as how i go to a private d3 school to make some arrangement with the cafeteria advisor where they could cook up my diet specific meals. I think they might have something like this already but i'm not sure.. tuition cost enough.. (34k/year) so they prob do. i'm looking into it.


Walked into the cafeteria this morning before my 8am cardio and showed them my diet plan...
"Sure, we'll make sure this gets done for you"
i'm pretty excited.

Maldorf
01-11-2007, 10:21 AM
Walked into the cafeteria this morning before my 8am cardio and showed them my diet plan...
"Sure, we'll make sure this gets done for you"
i'm pretty excited.

thats great, i didnt think they would give a damn. Hope it works out. YOu must go to a small private school?

Eagleized2
01-11-2007, 01:35 PM
sure do... and its like that with classes and profs too. 3 our of 4 profs give out there home phone number and 100% of them are available for 1 on 1 help... from what i hear; its not like this at big schools.

fatrock
01-11-2007, 03:13 PM
hey guys let me know what ya think.
19 years old
6'2"
215 lbs
BF% unknown any ideas?
been lifting off and on for 2.5 years
i play soccer in college but i'm a goalie so i'm in pretty good physical shape; my body is just lackign a bit.


Start hitting the gym with the rest of the Team bro... It looks like there alot of good tips on what to eat with your new workout.

good luck

BigJohnJPS
01-11-2007, 03:49 PM
I have a small rice cooker with a steamer on top.
Water and brown rice in the bottom, chicken or steak on top. 20 min later you have a fresh cooked healthy meal.
Sometimes I toss brocoli or new potatoes on top also.

I have one in my office and use it to fill in between breakfast and lunch and then another one mid-afternoon.

BTW, I also have a Food Saver to vacuum pack foods. I buy meat in large quantities and get it all out and cut it up in to strips or something. I then weight it and package it and seal them as individual servings. Once they are frozen they last for years. All it takes is a little warm water and it is ready to squeeze into a rice cooker or skillet.

NOTE: my rice cooker was $15 at target and has teflon coating. definitely you want the coating.
FWIW, this is what I do.

-jps

king6
01-11-2007, 04:30 PM
Like everyone says, all you need is a microwave, and a George Foreman. You could get a slow cooker too. That's all I had in the Marines for 5 and a half years. And I still was able to get all my meals in. It's not hard, just be creative.

felony
01-12-2007, 04:08 AM
i went to a private school and we basically had 3 buffets a day....to bad i would rarely be able to eat due to wrestling. and this was in a town where the closest mcdonalds was a hour and a half away...las vegas nevada to marion alabama...not a good transition lol.

Karlsberg
03-14-2007, 12:46 AM
I just have a question regarding the initial thread topic. Why say no to Eaglized2's cycle? It seems that some think he is "lazy" and don't know whether to "laugh or puke", but I don't think that has answered his question. Then we went on to diet and eating properly, but again, no real answer.
So again why say no? Is it because his body isn't properly condition? Because he has'nt put in 2-3 years naturally?
I am in a similar position and was also considering some "help", obviously I am still and will most likely be doing my research for some time, thx.

perfectbeast2001
03-14-2007, 01:45 AM
i'm working on getting cut, i'm following a 5 meal a day plan with a pre breakfast cardio and later in the day lifting. i did some research and picked the one that i thought would work best for me.

heres what i have so far.
Morning
Cardio Empty stomach
45min Heart rate between 140-150

Meal #1:
8 egg whites: 180 cal, 0g fat, 6g carb, 36g protein
1/2 packs oatmeal or raw oats: 340 cal, 4g fat, 68g carb, 8g protein
1 Cup skim milk: 90 cal, 0g fat, 13g carb, 8g protein

Meal #2:
Tuna Fish Sandwhich (3oz serving tuna plus 2 slices whole wheat bread): 270 cal, 4g fat, 34g carb, 27g protein
Lettuce: 45 cal, 1.5g fat, 8g carb, 3g protein

Lift one hour after meal #2 at about 1pm
Lift monday-friday concentrating on one muscle group per day
(Monday-chest, Tuesday-Back, Wednesday-Shoulders, Thursday-Legs, Friday-Arms, Sat/Sun-Off)

Meal #3:
8oz chicken breast (baked): 220 cal, 2g fat, 0g carb, 50g protein
1 Cup Brown Rice: 210 cal, 4.5g fat, 38g carb, 5g protein

1 Cup Skim Milk: 90cal, 0g fat, 13g carb, 8g protein

Meal #4:
8oz Lean Ground Turkey Burger: 320 cal, 16g fat, 0g carb, 44g protein
1 Cup Brown Rice: 210 cal, 4.5g fat, 38g carb, 5g protein


Meal #5:
8oz chicken breast (baked): 220 cal, 2g fat, 0g carb, 50g protein
1.5 Cup Brocoli: 45 cal, 0g fat, 6g carb, 3g protein

The five meals total out to:
2240 cal, 38.5g fat, 224g carb, 247g protein

OR

Meal 1 @ 10am
½ cup oats, 2 scoops whey, multivitamin
Meal 2 @ 12pm
5 oz chicken breast, small salad w/tomato
Meal 3 @ 3pm
1 can tuna, 1 oz almonds
Meal 4 @ 5pm
5 oz chicken breast, small salad w/tomato, 1 tbsp flax
Meal 5 @ 7pm
2 scoops whey
))) Workout (((
Meal 6: PWO @ 10:15
1 cup oats, 2 scoops whey, multivitamin
Meal 7 @ 11pm
1 can tuna, small salad w/tomato, 1 tbsp flax

Daily Total (Pro=270, Carb=117, Fat=85, Cal=2582)

Let me know if you have any ideas/ tweeks..

Glad you have decided to work on putting a diet together. It will make a huge difference. The second diet listed looks like a good place to start.
I would add some carbs pre workout for energy. A scoop of powdered oats in the whey and/or a banana would do the trick. Adjust cals as you go depending on the changes your body makes.

king6
03-14-2007, 08:01 AM
I just have a question regarding the initial thread topic. Why say no to Eaglized2's cycle? It seems that some think he is "lazy" and don't know whether to "laugh or puke", but I don't think that has answered his question. Then we went on to diet and eating properly, but again, no real answer.
So again why say no? Is it because his body isn't properly condition? Because he has'nt put in 2-3 years naturally?
I am in a similar position and was also considering some "help", obviously I am still and will most likely be doing my research for some time, thx.

Doing a cycle for him would be a waste of money. He could achieve what he would with a cycle naturally.

ronan the barbarian
03-14-2007, 02:56 PM
i know more than others that not everyone has good genetics,but you honestly dont look like you train or eat properly with or without good genes.

gear is not your answer,training properly prob wont make you look like ronnie coleman but you will look like your in good enough shape for people to comment about it.

just try and be patient

Tbone1975
03-14-2007, 05:25 PM
I agree with below. The gyms at colleges are unreal dogggg!!!!!!!!! We had theee hottest chicks. Motivation to go everyday, twice a day, three times LOLOLOL. Seriously though. So hot. I loved training at college. Not to mention all the girls who didn't work out but were just walking around with their hot bodies. Damn, now that's motivation. And........where I went to school, there were some serious weight lifters and bodybuilder man, and the cool thing about it, they were my buds, fellow students, awesome. Dunno what this guy is thinking, but don't want to get on him, prolly a little bit cause everyone else has LOL. I'm a bit puzzled. I wish I was this guys dad LOL. Oh well. My thoughts for now.

Comeon mang, lots of us are in college,,, hit up a costco, BJs, or some wholesaler,, thats number one if you on a limited budget,,

Tbone1975
03-14-2007, 05:30 PM
Ok, on a bit of a side note though, I see he was mostly talking about, it seems, inability to afford good food at college. He sounded like he trains but can't afford food. I got thoughts, but I'm gonna keep my mouth shut for now. Good luck though definately, and hit up that damn gym!!! If you aren't already.

5ifthCitizen
03-14-2007, 07:08 PM
I just have a question regarding the initial thread topic. Why say no to Eaglized2's cycle? It seems that some think he is "lazy" and don't know whether to "laugh or puke", but I don't think that has answered his question. Then we went on to diet and eating properly, but again, no real answer.
So again why say no? Is it because his body isn't properly condition? Because he has'nt put in 2-3 years naturally?
I am in a similar position and was also considering some "help", obviously I am still and will most likely be doing my research for some time, thx.

for one, he is nowhere near ready cuz he looks like he hasn't ever lifted. this guy would need to get somewhere around 14% body fat and at least close to 200lbs at that BF% before he's ready for AS. also he's only 19 years old and has plenty of natural test.

tester25
03-16-2007, 07:14 AM
first you need to workout lol

AirForceTACP
03-16-2007, 09:05 AM
im a colleg student too... i eat tuna... cheap.... but gets nasty... just started a 6 week tuna diet.. my last one lasted 3 and a half weeks.... trying to get lean for spring break.... well not just tuna.... tuna, protien shakes, 1/2 cup oats in the morning and 1 slice of whole wheat bread after i work out... and veggies .. that are frozen that cost 99cent.. 1-2 hours before i work out... so around 6-8 cans fo tuna a day..... at least 6.. every 2-4 hours.--sickening diet... cause you get tired of eating tuna.. but its worked for me..


Doesnt tuna have a high mercury count ?

Wouldnt eating that much tuna cause depression.. curious

Karlsberg
03-17-2007, 11:16 PM
Doesnt tuna have a high mercury count ?
Thanks for the insight regarding my earlier question. BTW regarding the tuna, I know that it does have high levels of mercury when compared to anything else you would ingest. Here's a quote I found from the website listed below. "Mercury prevents the conversion of T4 thyroid hormone to T3 which causes low energy, "brain fog", depression, and numerous symptoms that are known to be associated with low T3".... quoted from, http://mercurytalk.com/wiki/index.php/What_Mercury_Does_To_You .After reading this you might not want to eat too much seafood, lol.

outlawtas
03-17-2007, 11:32 PM
I see no reason to flame the guy, just let him know what's up.

Get your diet together, train hard natty for a while and when learn how to train and eat (displayed by your results) go ahead with your first cycle. :)

MuscleScience
03-18-2007, 01:18 AM
I do sympathize with you a little. But you can control your diet without to much problem. I lived 45 min from school and typically between going to work and school and home would drive well over a 100 miles a day. So bringing food with me really wasnt an option. What helped me was going to deli's and salad places that are big into the health food stuff. It gets kinda expensive but if your on the go its really your only choice during the day.

Mealticket
03-18-2007, 02:35 AM
this thread is dead, im sure the guy wont be back!

Beefkake31
03-19-2007, 02:20 AM
I see no reason to flame the guy, just let him know what's up.



I agree, it seemed like every post someone was calling him lazy or that he was making bs excuses which is totally fine to say but after one person says it I hate it when another member says the same thing the other member before him did just in different wording (sigh).

Alfamale
03-19-2007, 09:42 AM
Do your diet and cardio, train for a year or two. After that you are ready to do a cycle. Good luck.

Peace

mcmajor
03-19-2007, 11:27 AM
wow, so much to learn hey. sometimes it helps to surrender your ignorance hey. good advice guys!

firmechicano831
03-19-2007, 05:29 PM
No comment on this one but keep hitting the weights if you are already.

Eagleized2
03-28-2007, 07:11 PM
Body fat results are in. 9.8% current weight 203lbs, lean weight = 183lbs

powerinabottle1300
03-28-2007, 07:18 PM
Food should be your best friend. Eating more and eating right is just as important as training

cfiler
03-29-2007, 11:31 AM
Lift weights, and eat better.

Doing a cycle would be a complete waste of time.

IronReload04
03-29-2007, 07:58 PM
Ditto...

I'm in University as well.

yup yup...doesnt stop me

Ntpadude
04-01-2007, 10:56 PM
i've been trying to diet but my options are somewhat limited being a college student and all.. the healtheyest things around are salad, chicken wraps, and water... any thoughts on a good diet plan for a limited college student?

That has nothing to do with it. I mean if you want to be huge and muscular the diet will work for you, but honestly, if you want to be average guy in good shape, cut and muscular even though you might be under 180 lbs, its all quite possible. Well I see you are 215 but thats like 180 on me when adjusting for height and skeletal frame differences.

My genes wont support me being huge and muscular over 200 lbs, I am having all I can do to stay close to 180 but now age is an influence. I dont do huge doses of steroids, only HRT maintenance and sometimes you can cheat with a little more but only by an extra 1/4 CC here. I dont drink creatine like I should, protein shakes happen for me once a week, eat Wendy's double and triple burgers, drink sugar full coca colas, but have 10 times the definition you do.

Idea is get into the gym and get weight lifting. My diet is not the best, although to the astonishment of my trainer, I made it to 9% body fat and I have the best 42 year old body on my side of town. I look around everywhere to compare myself to others of my age and I am almost always comparitively in much better shape then others with a 12 inch differential between pec measurement to waist measurement. The key is in exercise. Lift weights, stick with it with regular schedule, if dont like tred mill, take walks. I drove over to nearby Honeymoon Island and make the 15 mile journey walking its entire shoreline, or other parks in my town where you can jog/walk around a 100 acre lake. OK you arent serious enough to think about diet, nor do you want to be on cover of muscle magazine, routine visits to the gym and walking/jogging can gradually give you a respectable body that no one wants to mess with.

Ntpadude
04-01-2007, 11:07 PM
Body fat results are in. 9.8% current weight 203lbs, lean weight = 183lbs

Well its maybe possible your fat stores really favor those love handles area but where did you get the BF measured at?

Usually love handles disappear at about 15% and they are ever present on you so I say you are about 16% or else being in soccer you have over developed legs and underdeveloped torso, meaning fat percentage is lower then usual in legs and higher then usual in torso. I am at 9.3% and look night and day different from you. On me 4 pack is clearly visible relaxed, 6 pack appears with tuck-in and tommy flexing.

One thing I see is for one, leave the steroids alone, you have the body that a LOT of definition would develop quickly if you only begin a good weight training program. When you havent been training much, starting out a good training program brings "steroid like" results, only thing doing a cycle would do is make the gains easily lost when you exit the program. Leave the steroids alone and most of your gains will be rapid, heavy and keepable.

Valac
04-02-2007, 01:12 AM
u need to get ya calories through the roof until ur lik 190lbs just smash in any and all food u can get. TRAIN HARD and take a spotter makes the world of difference

powerinabottle1300
04-02-2007, 07:49 PM
Eat, lift and cardio. It will jhappen before you know it.

K.Biz
04-03-2007, 05:51 AM
Do NOT cycle. you are no where near ready. The second diet does look better. also stop lying to people on the forum about your training experience. there is NO WAY you have been training for 2.5 years. mabye some sports training here and there, but no lifting. and if you have been lifting, your a once a month lifter, or once every 2 months lifter. Your body looks in no way thats its been "trained" ever. It doesnt even look like you excerise that much. not trying to flame your bro, but u need to seriously look at those pictures again and then tell me you have been lifting for 2.5 years, there NO WAY. steroids dont make you big bro. diet, dedication and structure get your big.

Civic0
04-04-2007, 11:15 PM
Get started lifting a little first- and for you-first means like 5 years...then consider taking anabolics.

Mogamedogz
04-05-2007, 12:44 AM
College taught me how to eat good for cheap...lol-