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volopt420
01-31-2007, 01:28 PM
I have read most of the ******* threads and this supplement seems very impressive. However, the direct question of it needing PCT has never been answered fully. I am 29 years old and have never taken aas. I would like to start running it. I will probably start the 3x a day and then eventually work my way up to 6. Will I need PCT and if so, what can you suggest, clomid, nolvdex? Thx

lifta_00
01-31-2007, 02:24 PM
good question i have two bottles coming and would like to know the answer too, i was under the impression that because it only boosts your natty test levels that you would not need pct as you are not shutting your natural test production down

spywizard
01-31-2007, 02:25 PM
The Lh is increased from the use of *******, that means you will get all the sides you do when you were in puberty most typically..

since a PCT is to recover your natural production of Test the answer is no, you will not need to run a PCT..

your natural production will still be intact..

with that said, i would suggest an over the counter anti e, something mild for 1 month to help with some of the sides of extra natural testosterone.

AE is coming out with an anti e to complement *******.. don't know when it will be available though..

Property of Steroid.com
01-31-2007, 02:32 PM
The Lh is increased from the use of *******, that means you will get all the sides you do when you were in puberty most typically..

since a PCT is to recover your natural production of Test the answer is no, you will not need to run a PCT..

your natural production will still be intact..

with that said, i would suggest an over the counter anti e, something mild for 1 month to help with some of the sides of extra natural testosterone.

AR is coming out with an anti e to complement *******.. don't know when it will be available though..

And you can't even drop me an e-mail to find out when it'll be out?!?!?

Seriously, hit me via e-mail and I'll tell you where we are currently with R&D on the anti Estrogen.

Reelmuscle
01-31-2007, 03:39 PM
The Lh is increased from the use of *******, that means you will get all the sides you do when you were in puberty most typically..

since a PCT is to recover your natural production of Test the answer is no, you will not need to run a PCT..

your natural production will still be intact..

with that said, i would suggest an over the counter anti e, something mild for 1 month to help with some of the sides of extra natural testosterone.

AE is coming out with an anti e to complement *******.. don't know when it will be available though..

This contradicts what someone else posted to my same question..

Of course it can be used as a muscle building supplement. Increasing testosterone levels will make it easier to gain strenght/size etc.

You will still want to add nolva or clomid in Pct with it. ******* doesnt block the hypotalamus from the inhibition of estrogen.

:scratch:

Reelmuscle
01-31-2007, 03:41 PM
Anthony, can you please post and clear this issue up (the pct issue) for all of us wanting to use your product as a building supplement?

TIA

spywizard
01-31-2007, 04:28 PM
This contradicts what someone else posted to my same question..



:scratch:

well, that's because that person isn't giving anything to support what they claim.

I ran ******* as a pct and did a log...

lets wait and see what AR says, or opinionates.. I'm not an expert, i go off my own experiences so i'll bump it for ya

Property of Steroid.com
01-31-2007, 05:29 PM
Anthony, can you please post and clear this issue up (the pct issue) for all of us wanting to use your product as a building supplement?

TIA

In the study on Fadogia (the main ingredient in *******), at the dose suggested on the label, test levels returned to normal after a 3 week washout period. So basically, 3 weeks after *******, your test levels will be normal. If you're using over 6 caps a day, you may want to taper off by 1/day until you are off. No PCT is needed if you follow the label directions, or if you exceed them, you simply need to taper off.

spywizard
01-31-2007, 05:32 PM
Wow, that's what i had assumed, it just made good sense..

in a normal PCT clomid is used to get the sperm production back up to par, Nolva is used to get test production back to normal, and HCG is used as an LH stim that is used before PCT to keep the testicles at a normal size..

I was nervous there for a few minutes, but I'm glad it all worked out..

Reelmuscle
01-31-2007, 06:52 PM
Anthony, thank you for the prompt response. Spywizard, thanks for contributing and making things more clear.

I will be trying this supplement + creatine CEE for muscle growth soon, and I will report back with the results.

Reelmuscle
01-31-2007, 07:01 PM
The Lh is increased from the use of *******, that means you will get all the sides you do when you were in puberty most typically..

since a PCT is to recover your natural production of Test the answer is no, you will not need to run a PCT..

your natural production will still be intact..

with that said, i would suggest an over the counter anti e, something mild for 1 month to help with some of the sides of extra natural testosterone.

AE is coming out with an anti e to complement *******.. don't know when it will be available though..

One last question (as you can see, I am going to try this ******* product, but I want to take all the pre-cautions and want to do it right):

You stated that even though this product doesn't require PCT, you would recommend a mild otc anti e, "something mild for 1 month".

What anti e can you buy otc? and which one do you recommend?

TIA

jmkru
01-31-2007, 08:08 PM
Maybe ErgoPharm's 6-OXO?

Shane35aa
01-31-2007, 10:42 PM
Would rebound work for a AI?

spywizard
01-31-2007, 10:49 PM
Maybe ErgoPharm's 6-OXO?

that's the one, or any anti e...

the sides you are attempting to prevent is the same sides you would get with any booste in testosterone..

acne, (for me) oily skin, puffy nips

we think of PCT as recovering something that has been suppressed..

with ******* we are attemping to suppress undesired sides with an anti e..

good luck..

Reelmuscle
01-31-2007, 11:02 PM
you got a PM, spywizard.

spywizard
01-31-2007, 11:07 PM
you got a PM, spywizard.

back at ya..