setting up my m1t/4ad stack

[suzuki99]

current stats, 179lbs 5'10 low body fat. im waiting untill after st pattys day to run this. I hope to be at least 185 when i start and have this cycle put me very close to 200.
i will be running:
m1t at 10/10/20/20
4ad at 400-500mg every day transdermal.

i might keep the m1t at 10mg every day depending on my gains and side effects. i have run m1t before at 10mgx4 weeks and made great gains with minimal sides.

I will be supplementing with:
milk thistle, hawthorne berry extract, bcaas, ***** 3, and probably start running a very low dose of ******* two or three weeks into my cycle.

PCT:
i will start running ******* at 5 caps a day a few days before my cycle ends and continue running that for 4 weeks,
i will run nova at 40/40/20/20 and slightly taper off the last few days.

any opinions i want this to be a great cycle

[UpstateTank]

add in redyeastrice and flush free niacin for cholesterol support

also if the 4ad doesnt take care of lethargy, add in ester vitamin c @ 6g/day

and you may want to throw in creatine during pct to help keep as much of your gains as possible :D

lastly, i culd b wrong cause ive never used it b4 but isnt the rec dose for trans 4ad more like 900mg?

[suzuki99]

yeah i ment 400-500mg of 4ad 2x a day. definatly will be running cee untill i start the cycle and then as soon as its over. good looks on the cholesterol supports

[IronAdam]

Is anyone worried about the added liver stress from all the esterC, niacin, and CEE?

[UpstateTank]

ester c niacin and creatine add extra liver stress?

[Manpretty]

Is anyone worried about the added liver stress from all the esterC, niacin, and CEE?

nawww its 4weeks remember.....yes be safe but its still just 4 weeks

ive actually never read of anyone with permanent damage resulting from a "moderate" oral cycle

yess maybe from 250mg of Abombs ed or 100 mg M1T ed but no one is that stupid to run those insane doses........

orals are VERY safe if run properly ....you will get elevated values while on cycle however they should return to normal in as little as 3 weeks.....

the only people that should be concerned/avoid orals completely are people with existing liver problems ie Hep A,B or C or alcoholics or.....you know what i mean.....
yes i know some people are not aware of liver problems they have where an oral cycle will aggervate these problems/cause even more seroius problems which is why EVERYONE should have bloodwork done at least once to unsure this is not a problem

[Manpretty]

ester c niacin and creatine add extra liver stress?

HAHA YEP kidneys actually
high levels of creatinine are a sign of kidney failure

edit: sorry for the poor/no explaination

any cretine you intake that is not used for ATP generation must go to the kidneys for disposal

cretine is broken down by the kidneys to creatinine and disposed of in urine and thus if blood serum levels of creatinine are high it is an indication of poor kidney function.

[IronAdam]

ester c niacin and creatine add extra liver stress?

Anything esterfied will put additional strain on your liver. Niacin is helpful in lowering cholesterol, but negetively impacts your liver. How badly? I'm not sure, only blood tests would verify. Just putting it out there to think about.

[UpstateTank]

Anything esterfied will put additional strain on your liver. Niacin is helpful in lowering cholesterol, but negetively impacts your liver. How badly? I'm not sure, only blood tests would verify. Just putting it out there to think about.

i learned something NEW today :D

[suzuki99]

im probably going to bump milk thistle up to 1500 mg a day spread evenly. im so pumpped im starting this after st pattys day. i wont be getting wasted and being a shit head but im definatly drinking a few beers so i will wait to run my cycle untill after