Are these before and after photos real??

[Ronnie Rowland]

Of course my before and after photos are real!!!

Here are my transformation pictures using the Slingshot Training System.

Pic 1) I had not trained in a couple of years due to having surgeries. Picture was taken at age 32. I know it was sad...LOL..

Pic 2) Taken at age 39 for local newpaper. I had just got back into training after having been off for 6 months from a bicep tendon repair surgery. I popped my tendon experimenting with rest-pause training (never again)!!!

Pic 3 ) Taken after my bicep tendon surgery (OUCH)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pic 4) Taken at age 41 during an off-season bulking phase.

[bigboomer]

Damn bro what a transformation. In the first pick it looked like you never even touched a weight. And the second damn looking swole!! Im going to check out that slingshot training system. Nice work man

[Elite1287]

time frame and stats before and after bro?

[MuscleScience]

Nice work looking jacked!!!!!!

[C_Bino]

Just curious, do you get paid or get perks for promoting this training program?

[Lexed]

lol nice oone bino was thinking same thing

[number twelve]

+1 bino

[5ifthCitizen]

gotta love that slingshot

[sidestep]

Just curious, do you get paid or get perks for promoting this training program?

yeah!!!! dammm right this is bullshit.........pics look well fake lets see ya face:aajack:

[wascaptain5214]

looking great slingshot! is that your back in your avy? if so....outstanding

[sidestep]

looking great slingshot! is that your back in your avy? if so....outstanding

hmmmmm well if hes a 250lbs black guy then yes! am i the only one with my eyes open in this thread lmao

[wascaptain5214]

looks outstanding to you sidestep? i really cant tell what colour the guy in the avy is. i know for me, in the summer i get almost as black as the ace of spades, but i am a mix breed.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Just curious, do you get paid or get perks for promoting this training program?

Not at all! I'm on here helping for free.

You should give Slingshot Training a test drive. You might just get surprised!

[Ronnie Rowland]

looking great slingshot! is that your back in your avy? if so....outstanding

Actually, the jacked-up back belongs to one of my trainees- Tricky Jackson Pro-Bodybuilder.

I only wish I had a back like Tricky's...LOL...

[Ronnie Rowland]

time frame and stats before and after bro?

It took me about 3 years to go from a flabby 165 lbs to a solid 240 lbs.

[moush]

bros...i have been working with ronnie for the first round of slingshot and I have to admit that I originally thought it was hype but i decided to give it a whirl.

My gains: 185 lbs to 225 lbs at end of cruise phase.
Crazy strength gains - check my Slingshot Log in the workout forum.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Damn bro what a transformation. In the first pick it looked like you never even touched a weight. And the second damn looking swole!! Im going to check out that slingshot training system. Nice work man

Thanks bigboomer! You're gonna love Slingshot Training..

[dedic8ed1]

A couple years ago in Pumped magazine Lee Preist spoke of a similiar training method that he used to get his arms to his freakish size,I guess people are just calling it something else now a days.

[WelshWarrior]

Hmmm, this seems a little "marketed" to me. I just don't understand why someone would push this program so much if they are impartial other than good results themselves....

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hmmm, this seems a little "marketed" to me. I just don't understand why someone would push this program so much if they are impartial other than good results themselves....


WelshWarrior, I'm sorry you feel that way.

First off, I'm tired of seeing some people go around the same stupid mountain over and over again. Second, many people cannot afford these insane prices a lot of personal trainers charge. If trying to help others is a "marketing ploy"-then I am quilty as charged!

[torontodude]

Great transformation bro, keep it up! :)

[Ronnie Rowland]

A couple years ago in Pumped magazine Lee Preist spoke of a similiar training method that he used to get his arms to his freakish size,I guess people are just calling it something else now a days.

Not sure about that but, if a system has been proven to work wonders with repeatable results, then I think that's all that should matter.

Obviously, it doesn't hurt to have a lot of science and physiology to back it up. I will say this- "I have never seen any training system that can provide better results than Slingshot Training."

[dedic8ed1]

Not sure about that but, if a system has been proven to work wonders with repeatable results, then I think that's all that should matter.

Obviously, it doesn't hurt to have a lot of science and physiology to back it up. I will say this- "I have never seen any training system that can provide better results than Slingshot Training."

If it works I agree,but This type of training is nothing new to the game that I'm sure of.

[JSola]

THIS IS AN ADVERTISEMENT, YOU SHOULD BE BANNED, THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS FORUM IS FOR!!!!

"I have never seen any training system that can provide better results than Slingshot Training."
"You're gonna love Slingshot Training.."
"You can google his name and read his testimonial about Slingshot Training on his website."

"I am quilty as charged!"
-YOU SAID IT BRO, GUILTY

[Ronnie Rowland]

If it works I agree,but This type of training is nothing new to the game that I'm sure of.


dedic8ed, I understand what you are saying. Everything out there has been rehashed from the 80's in some form or fashion. I never said I invented the wheel.

The STS is not all about me, it’s about showing what others have done with the knowledge I have gathered throughout the years so they can learn from our experiences and reach their full-genetic potential as either a recreational or competitive bodybuilder as fast as humanly possible without destroying their bodies in the process.

In this game you do not learn everything overnight nor should you think you are correct and everyone who disagrees with you lacks critical thinking skills or cannot comprehend things as you do. I realize there will never be only one way to doing anything. But, the principles applied in Slingshot Training cannot be disputed.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Nice work looking jacked!!!!!!

Thanks my friend..

You have a PM..:hello:

[MuscleScience]

Thanks my friend..

You have a PM..:hello:

Replied!!!

[Ronnie Rowland]

THIS IS AN ADVERTISEMENT, YOU SHOULD BE BANNED, THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS FORUM IS FOR!!!!

"I have never seen any training system that can provide better results than Slingshot Training."
"You're gonna love Slingshot Training.."
"You can google his name and read his testimonial about Slingshot Training on his website."

"I am quilty as charged!"
-YOU SAID IT BRO, GUILTY

jsola, please don’t misunderstand me. What I said was not an advertisement for capital gain.

That said, BELIEVE! REJOICE! That is how I prefer to live my life, and I have faith this attitude brings all of us good!

[Big]

THIS IS AN ADVERTISEMENT, YOU SHOULD BE BANNED, THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS FORUM IS FOR!!!!

"I have never seen any training system that can provide better results than Slingshot Training."
"You're gonna love Slingshot Training.."
"You can google his name and read his testimonial about Slingshot Training on his website."

"I am quilty as charged!"
-YOU SAID IT BRO, GUILTY
I agree that there seems to be a marketing style approach to this, but I have looked over it in detail and I haven't seen anywhere where they are trying to sell you anything. The entire training philosophy is spelled out for us in detail, free of charge. I could be wrong but it looks to me like he has found something that works in most cases and is excited to share it with others. Just my 2 cents.

[dedic8ed1]

dedic8ed, I understand what you are saying. Everything out there has been rehashed from the 80's in some form or fashion. I never said I invented the wheel.

The STS is not all about me, it’s about showing what others have done with the knowledge I have gathered throughout the years so they can learn from our experiences and reach their full-genetic potential as either a recreational or competitive bodybuilder as fast as humanly possible without destroying their bodies in the process.

In this game you do not learn everything overnight nor should you think you are correct and everyone who disagrees with you lacks critical thinking skills or cannot comprehend things as you do. I realize there will never be only one way to doing anything. But, the principles applied in Slingshot Training cannot be disputed.

Agreed

[Gears]

Not bad

[sidestep]

how the hell this thread get 5 stars is what i want to no inside job lol

[Drive]

THIS IS AN ADVERTISEMENT, YOU SHOULD BE BANNED, THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS FORUM IS FOR!!!!

"I have never seen any training system that can provide better results than Slingshot Training."
"You're gonna love Slingshot Training.."
"You can google his name and read his testimonial about Slingshot Training on his website."

"I am quilty as charged!"
-YOU SAID IT BRO, GUILTY

How dare you try to fool us by giving away advice... What are you selling anyway? We would all have much more respect for you if you charged us a ridicules amount of money. J/K
You have a vast store of knowledge and you are a great trainer. I appreciate you sharing and helping out.

[largerthannormal]

bull shice!! show us a picture of the boat motor in the backround to prove its u!

[Johny-too-small]

THIS IS AN ADVERTISEMENT, YOU SHOULD BE BANNED, THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS FORUM IS FOR!!!!

"I have never seen any training system that can provide better results than Slingshot Training."
"You're gonna love Slingshot Training.."
"You can google his name and read his testimonial about Slingshot Training on his website."

"I am quilty as charged!"
-YOU SAID IT BRO, GUILTY

Thats a very strong accusation. Ive read slingshot's training methods and many of his posts. I have not once seen him try to sell anything. Have you? Do you have proof of what youre saying? In fact, the only thing Ive seen from him is an over desire to share whats working for him in an attempt to help others.

I dont train like he does but from what Ive read, there is nothing in slingshot's posts that will put anyone at physical or monetary risk.

So keep your unfounded claims to yourself, because you look like an idiot.

[moush]

instead of accusing the guy why dont you go and read about the program and giving it a shot?

Honestly bros, the program does do what is claimed. There are 3 ongoing workout journals using the STS program. Read up and look at the strength and weight gains from this program.

[RoaringMad Mac]

I have been talking to Ronnie for a couple of weeks now. Let me begin by saying I honestly believe he is as real as they come.

What I don't understand from some of you is the fact that this is some sort of marketing plow. There is no link to a website of him asking to buy something. Of course one day when his book comes out that will have to be sold. You can either buy it or not your choice but wouldn't it be something that if you did the program and then gotten the gains you wanted and where able to say you did this program of his before it was even a book and could attest to the fact that it does work.

He is not trying to sell anything. He is not asking for money to train people. He is actually using his time to help others. I can name several supposed Guru's who's ultimate goal is to sell something. Be it Protein or steroids. I have not seen Ronnie do that.

There are several reasons some people do not show their faces on the INTERNET. I think you can understand why they don't. Maybe he will post again some pics later.

Like Ronnie stated before as well, he did not reinvent the wheel. I think he is freely giving his time to help others realize a better and safer way to train. I so often read in bodybuilding boards where people go so overboard and end up with all sort of injuries. This is a way to get away from that. It is ultimately used to keep your ass in the gym rather than over train and skip several weeks to months because you burned out and it became more like work and you did not enjoy it. So many of you think you are so hard core but will one day realize this is a life think not I need to get it as quickly as possible.

Yes, this is I think my 3rd post but I have been around here lurking for a long......time. Hope this post did not piss to many of you off.

[naturalsux]

I have been talking to Ronnie for a couple of weeks now. Let me begin by saying I honestly believe he is as real as they come.

What I don't understand from some of you is the fact that this is some sort of marketing plow. There is no link to a website of him asking to buy something. Of course one day when his book comes out that will have to be sold. You can either buy it or not your choice but wouldn't it be something that if you did the program and then gotten the gains you wanted and where able to say you did this program of his before it was even a book and could attest to the fact that it does work.

He is not trying to sell anything. He is not asking for money to train people. He is actually using his time to help others. I can name several supposed Guru's who's ultimate goal is to sell something. Be it Protein or steroids. I have not seen Ronnie do that.

There are several reasons some people do not show their faces on the INTERNET. I think you can understand why they don't. Maybe he will post again some pics later.

Like Ronnie stated before as well, he did not reinvent the wheel. I think he is freely giving his time to help others realize a better and safer way to train. I so often read in bodybuilding boards where people go so overboard and end up with all sort of injuries. This is a way to get away from that. It is ultimately used to keep your ass in the gym rather than over train and skip several weeks to months because you burned out and it became more like work and you did not enjoy it. So many of you think you are so hard core but will one day realize this is a life think not I need to get it as quickly as possible.

Yes, this is I think my 3rd post but I have been around here lurking for a long......time. Hope this post did not piss to many of you off.



well said!

[Merc..]

So you are doing well with this Moush ..

Merc.

[moush]

yea Merc I absolutely love the program! I have never made strength gains like this ever! And although i was looking a little fatter during the blast phase I lost the fat during the next prime. I am about to hit another blast coming Monday so we can really see what happens then! I think a lot of people would be suprised but this program..

[texasmk4]

you're looking GOOD if its really you

[JSola]

........maybe im wrong, my apologies. you cant get that mad at me trying to protect our forum though. If there's nothing being sold well then..........alright.

[RoaringMad Mac]

I think Ronnie is about to dispell some of this moush.

[Ronnie Rowland]

I edited my first post and put up some face pictures..I'll post some more if there's any doubts!:chairshot

[Blome]

I popped my tendon doing rest-pause training (never again)!!!


Damnit, I just got into rest-pause training.

[timtim]

bros...i have been working with ronnie for the first round of slingshot and I have to admit that I originally thought it was hype but i decided to give it a whirl.

My gains: 185 lbs to 225 lbs at end of cruise phase.
Crazy strength gains - check my Slingshot Log in the workout forum.

your claiming to have gained 40 pounds in how long? do you honestly think anyone with real training experience would believe a 40 pound weight gain in even a year for a newbie lifter and your claiming this in a matter of weeks/months.

no way. the program might be great but that is bullsh@t. and if its 40 pounds of some muscle and a good amount of fat who cares then, anyone can get fat. no experienced lifter is going to miraculously jump in weight like that. coming from someone with alot of experience, i would find it remarkably more interesting to hear someone say "ive been training 5 or 6 years now seriously and this new program added 7 pounds of muscle in 16 weeks". that is interesting. 40 pounds, sounds like bullsh@t because it probably is.

[Ronnie Rowland]

your claiming to have gained 40 pounds in how long? do you honestly think anyone with real training experience would believe a 40 pound weight gain in even a year for a newbie lifter and your claiming this in a matter of weeks/months.

no way. the program might be great but that is bullsh@t. and if its 40 pounds of some muscle and a good amount of fat who cares then, anyone can get fat. no experienced lifter is going to miraculously jump in weight like that. coming from someone with alot of experience, i would find it remarkably more interesting to hear someone say "ive been training 5 or 6 years now seriously and this new program added 7 pounds of muscle in 16 weeks". that is interesting. 40 pounds, sounds like bullsh@t because it probably is.

Actually, moush has a very slow metabolism and some of the weight gain was water. In addition, he lost more in the anabolic prime than I wanted him to. With his metabolism, he could have gained even more in an 8 week period. It's impossible to gain that much muscle in 2 months but he did gain the weight. I've been with him from the start and he's telling the truth! This time around he will take in much slower. His body was no use to this form of training and diet.

[Ronnie Rowland]

I agree that there seems to be a marketing style approach to this, but I have looked over it in detail and I haven't seen anywhere where they are trying to sell you anything. The entire training philosophy is spelled out for us in detail, free of charge. I could be wrong but it looks to me like he has found something that works in most cases and is excited to share it with others. Just my 2 cents.

You are a very smart guy!

[Ajc330]

........maybe im wrong, my apologies. you cant get that mad at me trying to protect our forum though. If there's nothing being sold well then..........alright.

you just came here a month ago lol like this is your home.. i haven't been here long either and you should bow down to this man for actually taking the time to help people like you

[moush]

your claiming to have gained 40 pounds in how long? do you honestly think anyone with real training experience would believe a 40 pound weight gain in even a year for a newbie lifter and your claiming this in a matter of weeks/months.

no way. the program might be great but that is bullsh@t. and if its 40 pounds of some muscle and a good amount of fat who cares then, anyone can get fat. no experienced lifter is going to miraculously jump in weight like that. coming from someone with alot of experience, i would find it remarkably more interesting to hear someone say "ive been training 5 or 6 years now seriously and this new program added 7 pounds of muscle in 16 weeks". that is interesting. 40 pounds, sounds like bullsh@t because it probably is.

bro who are you to say its bs? I really did gain that much weight and yes it was water weight as well but still weight gain. All in all its almost the end of week 2 of the anabolic prime round 2 and im down to about 215 lbs

[Tenmoney]

coming from someone with alot of experience, i would find it remarkably more interesting to hear someone say "ive been training 5 or 6 years now seriously and this new program added 7 pounds of muscle in 16 weeks". that is interesting. 40 pounds, sounds like bullsh@t because it probably is.

I have been training seriously for 3 years (did my first amateur show this past Aug.). I know it's not the 5-6 years you were looking for, but I hope it it's enough. I'm finishing up my first cycle of STS this week, and I can say that I have seen my best results with STS. If you want, check out my STS log. I have blasted through plateaus that have plagued me for 6 months. People have been commenting on how I'm looking bigger than ever before. I have kept my BF down to about 12% the whole time and I have put on about 8lbs of muscle, in 8 weeks. And before anyone wants to jump to conclusions, I have been supplementing nothing but protein and creatine/simple carbs. Aside from back pain from squats (which was here long before I started STS) I have never felt better. Not only am I stronger than I have ever been, but this is also the healthiest/most injury free I've ever been.

To evreyone else:

Ronnie has been a tremendous help all along the way. He never asks for anything in return. He is a true "coach"/trainer. I have coached for 11 years and if there is one thing that I've learned about other coaches; A true coach/trainer gets his rewards from seeing those that he/she works with succeed. I would have to agree w/ Moush, before you (and by you, I mean anyone) start to talk crap about Ronnie or STS, give it a try. Really give it a try. If at that point it you find fault w/ it, then I know Ronnie would love to hear your feedback so that he can make whatever adjustments may be necessary. I'm sorry, but anyone wants to talk mess about STS (or anything for that matter) before doing any kind of research on their own is incredibly myopic and you would do well to keep your unfounded opinions to yourself.
:_1106:


The only shady thing Ronnie has ever done to me is totally steal my argument for STS in Post #22 of this thread. lol. It was a good one I thought, I don't mind you using it.:wg:

[thetank]

i understand why the initial contraversy. it sounded like a sales pitch and i understand why. its not every day you meet a jacked up dude willing to hand out advice for free that people pay in spades for on the internet, let alone be so enthused about it.
but everything aside, slingshot training guru, you have made a crazy transformation, and are lookin freakish. nice job man, keep kickin ass.
peace
tank

[Garnelek]

Having read the STS program i found it very well standing.
1.We all now that as a bbr u have to go through these 3 faces in order to avoid hitting a plat,year long.
2.5 day split is the absolute best
3.I have used the dieting and then back to normall many times and found it really effective
4.I don't see anything 4 sale
That said i think i ll give a shot with the slingshot.

[RoaringMad Mac]

Wel I am glad that is starting to get cleared up.

[stacked566]

heyyyy its mac!!! good to see you here buddy

[RoaringMad Mac]

LOL, Me and you need to talk buddy. LOL

[jackjackson]

Nice,

[Ronnie Rowland]

i understand why the initial contraversy. it sounded like a sales pitch and i understand why. its not every day you meet a jacked up dude willing to hand out advice for free that people pay in spades for on the internet, let alone be so enthused about it.
but everything aside, slingshot training guru, you have made a crazy transformation, and are lookin freakish. nice job man, keep kickin ass.
peace
tank

Thanks tank! And if that's your picture in the avatar, the name fits you well.

[Dog-Slime]

Looking good bro. Gonna read up on this slingshot training right now.

[UberSteroids]

I have been using the STS training. It is a very good system IMO.
My gains were decent, jumped from 239-242 up to current 252-254 lbs.
Took me about two months. Of course I did gain little fat I am sure, plus extra water weight, but it is the most RAPID weight gain I've ever experienced in my short four year lifting exeperience.

I am really glad Guru gave it out to the public, all nicely explained and broken down to every little detail.

Especially for people like myself, with very little experience and still trying to find my perfect program, well the Slinghot was a HUGE help, saved me so much time and energy. Thats for sure.

I am still tweaking the STS a bit as I get better results from training each body part twice a week.

Guru has been helping me with this as well.

About the whole selling idea, well he never asked for a $1.

I can understand it though, at first I was suprized too, why would ANYONE spend so much time and energy posting, explaining, reviewing and writing PMs for nothing in return.

Definitely something UNUSUAL to do.

For guys that still don't have their workout system figured out, I think it is a very good idea to try this one out, and tweak it as needed.

Thanks a lot fellas.

[UberSteroids]

Just curious, do you get paid or get perks for promoting this training program?

BINO!! Looking great man. Holyyyy.... :thumbsup:

:_hijack:

[timtim]

bro who are you to say its bs? I really did gain that much weight and yes it was water weight as well but still weight gain. All in all its almost the end of week 2 of the anabolic prime round 2 and im down to about 215 lbs

i say its bs because that kind of claim (which is typical internet banter) is impossible even with a large amount of anabolics. muscle tissue doesnt just grow over night. thats my bs claim and im right about that.

as for the program, i have read it and a few of the logs too. im always open to new training systems. it sounds great. i dont dog training systems that are legit. i only dog bullsh@t claims. you cleared up the air as did sling shot. i would hate to see a great system fall victim to the bs internet claim saga that follows new programs claiming miraculous results over night.

to tenmoney:
your post i would believe completely. 8 weeks, 12 or so pounds with fat and water taken into account, completely doable. if even 5 of that is lean tissue that is a ton (in my opinion) in such a short period. good for you.

[SdiZZle]

Yo Guru, I really want to give this system a shot, did you see my post at the end of your sticky in the workouts forum? This makes a ton of sence to me and I would love a "Guru" to tap into for advice!

[SdiZZle]

heres a copy of that post

Ok Guru-

Everything here seems to make a lot of sence. I ran my first cycle of AAS and my last shot is this week. I would really like to implement your training program, but I don't know if I have the money to stay on AAS as you say "enhanced" builders should so...

after my last shot should I start the cruise phase, then transition into the anabolic prime? Should I stay with the two weeks recommended for each or stretch them out a little to cover my PCT and have my hormone levels more stable before I hit the anabloic blast? I ran 550mg Test C for a 12 week cycle and I am using Nolva/Clomid/Relacore/******* pct to get my system back up and running.

I am excited to give this program a try- It seems like most of the exercises could be done in about an hour or maybe even a little less. That sounds way better then the 1 1/2 to 2 hours I'm in the gym trying to "slam" my muscles.

Work smarter not harder I guess.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=316204
^^^^
There is a link to my cycle log for all of my info. You are the man GURU.

[Tenmoney]

to tenmoney:
your post i would believe completely. 8 weeks, 12 or so pounds with fat and water taken into account, completely doable. if even 5 of that is lean tissue that is a ton (in my opinion) in such a short period. good for you.

Thanks man, I appreciate it. I hope you didn't take my post as a blast at you. I've seen a lot of people dog out STS and Ronnie the past few months and had to put in my 2 cents. Ronnie really does go WAY out of his way to help anyone who asks for it, myself being one of them. I guess it really is true, no good deed goes unpunished. lol.

[Ronnie Rowland]

heres a copy of that post

Ok Guru-

Everything here seems to make a lot of sence. I ran my first cycle of AAS and my last shot is this week. I would really like to implement your training program, but I don't know if I have the money to stay on AAS as you say "enhanced" builders should so...

after my last shot should I start the cruise phase, then transition into the anabolic prime? Should I stay with the two weeks recommended for each or stretch them out a little to cover my PCT and have my hormone levels more stable before I hit the anabloic blast? I ran 550mg Test C for a 12 week cycle and I am using Nolva/Clomid/Relacore/******* pct to get my system back up and running.

I am excited to give this program a try- It seems like most of the exercises could be done in about an hour or maybe even a little less. That sounds way better then the 1 1/2 to 2 hours I'm in the gym trying to "slam" my muscles.

Work smarter not harder I guess.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=316204
^^^^
There is a link to my cycle log for all of my info. You are the man GURU.

Good to hear SdiZZle, I'll go check it out and provide you with a solution tommorow in the STS thread!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks man, I appreciate it. I hope you didn't take my post as a blast at you. I've seen a lot of people dog out STS and Ronnie the past few months and had to put in my 2 cents. Ronnie really does go WAY out of his way to help anyone who asks for it, myself being one of them. I guess it really is true, no good deed goes unpunished. lol.

Tenmoney, you are correct. It was brought to my attention there's a little click (not anyone on this board) that is upset with me for handing out free information on this board and not deleting a particular thread I made in the workout section. It tells me that some people think they know it all but they really dont. Pretty sad when a select few have to go around making up lies about someone else in order to try and make them self look better..

So far, I have been very impressed with the members here at the Anabolic Review Board. What a great bunch of guys!!:7up:

[Tenmoney]

I agree, I can't think of anyone that I have run across on this board that was just plain rude. (maybe a little miss informed, lol) As a matter of fact, I'm very impressed with how quick people are to admit it when they're wrong, and not hold grudges against those that correct them. It just goes to show that the common bond on this board REALLY IS to just simply help each other achieve our goals.

[JSola]

Ok, I'm a total A-hole. I read the entire slingshot program and it's really impressive. I just hate sleazy spammers on any forum, and it DID sound like a sales pitch. I feel like a dousche because I think I might try it! Sorry again.

[moush]

timtim...my gains are legit but what do i have to prove to you or anyone else on the board how about you go and check out this thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=297899

is that bs? i dont see your pics on this board with transformation pics like that. So ive proven myself through the pics that I can lose 100 lbs, I can gain muscle, and I can get down to 6% bf. Why cant I put on 25-30 lbs when this is the first time i have ever bulked? On a new training and diet program no less. Say what you want my numbers are legit.

[timtim]

timtim...my gains are legit but what do i have to prove to you or anyone else on the board how about you go and check out this thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=297899

is that bs? i dont see your pics on this board with transformation pics like that. So ive proven myself through the pics that I can lose 100 lbs, I can gain muscle, and I can get down to 6% bf. Why cant I put on 25-30 lbs when this is the first time i have ever bulked? On a new training and diet program no less. Say what you want my numbers are legit.

congragulations, your results are great. no doubt about that.

why cant you cant you gain 25 to 30 pounds in 8 weeks? basic science. im not getting into it because i dont care enough about dealing with you. no way, even with a large supply of drugs, is the body going to preferentially create 25 to 30 pounds of new muscle tissue in 8 weeks. sorry, its not that black and white and if you dont realize that and accept physiological parameters than your fooling yourself.

either way great job, not taking anything from you. you'll never see pics of me on any webpage be it myspace or anywhere. im not that stupid to reveal my identity in any way, shape, or form. you can sit there and believe i am a fat, scrawny nobody while my diet and training knowledge reflect that of someone with 2 decades of personal experience.

[Ronnie Rowland]

congragulations, your results are great. no doubt about that.

why cant you cant you gain 25 to 30 pounds in 8 weeks? basic science. im not getting into it because i dont care enough about dealing with you. no way, even with a large supply of drugs, is the body going to preferentially create 25 to 30 pounds of new muscle tissue in 8 weeks. sorry, its not that black and white and if you dont realize that and accept physiological parameters than your fooling yourself.

either way great job, not taking anything from you. you'll never see pics of me on any webpage be it myspace or anywhere. im not that stupid to reveal my identity in any way, shape, or form. you can sit there and believe i am a fat, scrawny nobody while my diet and training knowledge reflect that of someone with 2 decades of personal experience.

timtim,as you probably already know, it's not uncommon for men doing their first steroid cycle to to gain 15-30 lbs of body weight in an 8-12 week period. Slingshot Training done right mimics the Action/Reaction Factors of a first time "steroid cycle".

Think about it- when do advanced bodybuilders make their best muscle gains of the entire year? It's after doing a show! During a pre-contest phase bodybuilders will over-train with aerobics and/or under-eat. Immediately following a show they are able to put on additional muscular weight above and beyond what they possessed before dieting doen while staying relatively lean because their body is in a very receptive state. The body can’t take that kind of abuse on a frequent basis, so you must compromise by doing a "anabolic prime". It’s not what you eat, but what your body can absorb. Ask any competitive bodybuilder when they experience their biggest growth spurts and they will tell you it’s during the first 6 weeks after a competition!

[SdiZZle]

timtim-

I went from 164lbs to 194lbs in 12 weeks with my first cycle, and it wasn't even "a ton of drugs". That is a 30lb gain. I have experienced it for myself and in no way doubt that moush managed to accomplish similar returns with his use of STS and the guru's guidance. Also, you will never reveal you identity on myspace.... you sound like a wierdo dude. It's all a conspiracy dude, the man is out to get you via myspace, and people all over are lying about weight gain!

TimTim vs. the Machine - coming this summer to a theater near you.

[timtim]

timtim-

I went from 164lbs to 194lbs in 12 weeks with my first cycle, and it wasn't even "a ton of drugs". That is a 30lb gain. I have experienced it for myself and in no way doubt that moush managed to accomplish similar returns with his use of STS and the guru's guidance. Also, you will never reveal you identity on myspace.... you sound like a wierdo dude. It's all a conspiracy dude, the man is out to get you via myspace, and people all over are lying about weight gain!

TimTim vs. the Machine - coming this summer to a theater near you.

what are you 12 years old? if you cant stay with the thread on an adult level mind your own business. narrow minded people are hilarious. my profession is why i have no pics anywhere on line but since it sounds like your probably in high school or maybe college you wouldnt get that concept. when i go on a job interview i wont have to worry about the employer googling my name and finding personal or embarrassing information out about me. now go away please.

[timtim]

timtim,as you probably already know, it's not uncommon for men doing their first steroid cycle to to gain 15-30 lbs of body weight in an 8-12 week period. Slingshot Training done right mimics the Action/Reaction Factors of a first time "steroid cycle".

Think about it- when do advanced bodybuilders make their best muscle gains of the entire year? It's after doing a show! During a pre-contest phase bodybuilders will over-train with aerobics and/or under-eat. Immediately following a show they are able to put on additional muscular weight above and beyond what they possessed before dieting doen while staying relatively lean because their body is in a very receptive state. The body can’t take that kind of abuse on a frequent basis, so you must compromise by doing a "anabolic prime". It’s not what you eat, but what your body can absorb. Ask any competitive bodybuilder when they experience their biggest growth spurts and they will tell you it’s during the first 6 weeks after a competition!

i am not questioning your plan at all. nor do i think moush's results are less than amazing - they are, no need to argue, he looks great and i congragulate him.

simply put, go the store and look at 30 pounds of muscle in the form of london broil. that much muscle will not jump on a persons body in 8 weeks with or without drugs. lets be clear, muscle is 72% water. if you get your body in the right, perfect balance you could gain a few pounds while dropping body fat - but this state is not maintainable and will produce a few pounds. whenever muscle is gained there is body fat that is gained with it. take all this into account. do i think 30 solid pounds in 8 weeks is possible, no.

nor do i believe these people with their claims of 30 pound gains on cycles either. i put on 25 pounds on my last cycle of 450mg test enanthate a week for 13 weeks at one point - and ive been training for over 19 years. i sure as hell did not gain 25 pounds. on cycle weight means nothing because of the role of water weight. i can be very lean with a good amount of water retention. and this sdizzle guy in his thread claims he has gained water bloat as it is visible in his face. so when he comes off and drops 8 to 10 pounds off the top we wont hear about that but he will try and insist on 30 pounds of weight gain on his cycle. newbies with their bs hype perpetuate these ridiculous claims and in his own thread he states he can see water retention in the face and that is guarantee hes retaining water so his claim of a 30 pound gain is garbage. next on that guy.

i get the rebound effect, ive trained with people doing shows for years and have seen it. your methodology works, no doubt by me. 30 pounds is not happening, at least in MY terminology of muscle gain. but i do believe in your system, makes complete sense.

[Ronnie Rowland]

i am not questioning your plan at all. nor do i think moush's results are less than amazing - they are, no need to argue, he looks great and i congragulate him.

simply put, go the store and look at 30 pounds of muscle in the form of london broil. that much muscle will not jump on a persons body in 8 weeks with or without drugs. lets be clear, muscle is 72% water. if you get your body in the right, perfect balance you could gain a few pounds while dropping body fat - but this state is not maintainable and will produce a few pounds. whenever muscle is gained there is body fat that is gained with it. take all this into account. do i think 30 solid pounds in 8 weeks is possible, no.

nor do i believe these people with their claims of 30 pound gains on cycles either. i put on 25 pounds on my last cycle of 450mg test enanthate a week for 13 weeks at one point - and ive been training for over 19 years. i sure as hell did not gain 25 pounds. on cycle weight means nothing because of the role of water weight. i can be very lean with a good amount of water retention. and this sdizzle guy in his thread claims he has gained water bloat as it is visible in his face. so when he comes off and drops 8 to 10 pounds off the top we wont hear about that but he will try and insist on 30 pounds of weight gain on his cycle. newbies with their bs hype perpetuate these ridiculous claims and in his own thread he states he can see water retention in the face and that is guarantee hes retaining water so his claim of a 30 pound gain is garbage. next on that guy.

i get the rebound effect, ive trained with people doing shows for years and have seen it. your methodology works, no doubt by me. 30 pounds is not happening, at least in MY terminology of muscle gain. but i do believe in your system, makes complete sense.

timtim, we are in agreement!

And as you know, those who do not take anti-es and run testosterone put on a lot more water weight than those taking anti-es. moush is going to slow things down this time around.

[MuscleScience]

You read that paper yet S.T.G.

[SdiZZle]

1- I am 27 years old, thanks ace.

my diet and training knowledge reflect that of someone with 2 decades of personal experience.

2- if you are indead 30 and have 19+ years training experience that means your professional experience started at 11. Awesome.

3- if I google my name, suprisingly niether myspace nor this site come up, because I do not give them my real name. Hmmm.....

4- I admit there is water weight gain, as their is fat gain. Guru talks about body fat gain in his outlines. Big deal. I don't think anyone here claimed to gain 30lbs without gaining fat or water, but still you attack. How about this, if you don't buy this, lay off and leave others alone- who is 12? You post on this thread multiple times a day to do nothing more then tell people they are wrong and you are right. Don't be a d-bag dude. Go find a thread your interested in and quit trashing people for no reason.

In a world where every one was 12 and gaining insane amounts of weight, there was a man... A man who did not believe. This man had conviction. The internet would not know his name. My space would not know his name. But this summer, we will all know his name...

Coming soon to a theater near you... "TimTim, One Against Many"

[timtim]

go back to where i congragulated moush, tenmoney, and completely agree with slingshot guru and tell me where i am trashing people. your the only one who got their thong in a bunch when you werent even involved in the thread piece with moush, tenmoney, guru, and myself. then you say how you gained 30 pounds but now are back peddling because you have zero clue what you are talking about and just want to seem like a big man here.

first you said this:

"I went from 164lbs to 194lbs in 12 weeks with my first cycle, and it wasn't even "a ton of drugs". That is a 30lb gain".

back peddle, back peddle, back peddle, to this:
"I admit there is water weight gain, as their is fat gain. Guru talks about body fat gain in his outlines. Big deal. I don't think anyone here claimed to gain 30lbs without gaining fat or water, but still you attack".

so you didnt gain 30 pounds. if you followed my posts and read for comprehension, i was disagreeing with the fact of gaining a real 30 pounds, not sloppy weight. this may have been too complicated for you but guru got it and he is the one whose knowledge and experience i respect here. im done dealing with a misinformed, story telling newbie.

go away already ace.

1- I am 27 years old, thanks ace.



2- if you are indead 30 and have 19+ years training experience that means your professional experience started at 11. Awesome.

3- if I google my name, suprisingly niether myspace nor this site come up, because I do not give them my real name. Hmmm.....

4- I admit there is water weight gain, as their is fat gain. Guru talks about body fat gain in his outlines. Big deal. I don't think anyone here claimed to gain 30lbs without gaining fat or water, but still you attack. How about this, if you don't buy this, lay off and leave others alone- who is 12? You post on this thread multiple times a day to do nothing more then tell people they are wrong and you are right. Don't be a d-bag dude. Go find a thread your interested in and quit trashing people for no reason.

In a world where every one was 12 and gaining insane amounts of weight, there was a man... A man who did not believe. This man had conviction. The internet would not know his name. My space would not know his name. But this summer, we will all know his name...

Coming soon to a theater near you... "TimTim, One Against Many"

[SdiZZle]

congragulations, your results are great. no doubt about that

Followed immediately by-

why cant you cant you gain 25 to 30 pounds in 8 weeks? basic science. im not getting into it because i dont care enough about dealing with you.

CongraGUlations - you’re a liar. That’s basically what you are saying here.

your claiming to have gained 40 pounds in how long? do you honestly think anyone with real training experience would believe a 40 pound weight gain in even a year for a newbie lifter and your claiming this in a matter of weeks/months.

no way. the program might be great but that is bullsh@t.

I, TimTim completely congraGUlate you moush, you are amazing!

Followed by-

i am not questioning your plan at all. nor do i think moush's results are less than amazing - they are, no need to argue, he looks great and i congragulate him.

Backpedaling?

First let me say the word is congratulate (pronounced congraDulate). You are 30yrs old and involved in the education system and you think the word is congragulate? Do you pronounce it as such?

Here is my problem here. No one on this or any related thread claimed to gain "40lbs of rock solid muscle no water no fat". But this is what you seem to infer from you basic reading abilities, and this is where your argument starts. Once people tell you, no, there was water weight and fat involved YOU backpedal.

I went from 164lbs to 194lbs in 12 weeks with my first cycle, and it wasn't even "a ton of drugs". That is a 30lb gain.
Simple math genius - 194 minus 164 is 30lbs. Note- nowhere do I infer that the 30lbs is rock solid muscle and nothing else. I would assume most people on this board would realize gains like that come with water weight and fat. I will now make that clear so people with only basic comprehension will understand. So I was not backpedaling, but clarifying so you could "get it". Get it? Good.

Of your 800 or so posts a quick glance would show that roughly 700 are negative, telling people they are wrong. I would think this site is on average full of positive thinking energetic people who take charge of their situations and make things happen. Why don't you take your negative BS elsewhere? 5' 5" 200lbs @ 10% bodyfat? You should pretty closely resemble my avatar, Franco Columbu, past Mr. O. Where can we see you on stage since you won't show anyone any pictures?

Hooked-on-Phonics works for TimTim

I love you :wg:
S

[Johny-too-small]

^^^^ Can you two take your hormonal debate to PM's??

[timtim]

^^^^ Can you two take your hormonal debate to PM's??

good advice. everyone have a great holiday.

[Ronnie Rowland]

You read that paper yet S.T.G.

Yes! In fact, I read that same study back in the summer.


Thanks for sending!

[Tenmoney]

These are the results from the first go 'round w/ STS. If you'd like to read over the whole thing, you can check my log.

So it took me awhile, but I have put together a progress report for improvements made over my first STS cycle.

As far as weight goes... I began at 215 lbs around 12% BF. I was able to maintain my BF % throughout. I stepped on the scale at 223 lbs on Fri. I know where the fat goes on my body when I gain it, and I can say that from the way my cloths fit, or I should say the way the don't fit, the weight gain is muscle. i.e. tight in the arms, chest/back, shoulders, ands thighs. My waist hasn't changed. The goal was to gain a solid 8 lbs of muscle, and that's what happened. YIPEE! (sorry , couldn't help it, lol)

As for strength... Holy Crap!! I calculated 1 rep maxs on bodybuilding.com (both before and after) for the sake of coming up with results that are easier to measure. I don't know if it will impress you guys, but I was extremely happy w/ them.

Exercise: Before/ After/ Difference/ % change

Bench Press: 366 lbs/ 387 lbs/ 21 lbs/ 5.5%

Dead Lift: 470 lbs/ 496 lbs/ 26 lbs/ 5%

Stiff Leg Deads: 393 lbs/ 470 lbs/ 77 lbs/ 27%

T Bar Row: 315 lbs/ 447 lbs/ 132 lbs/ 30%

Bentover BB Row: 320 lbs/ 340 lbs/ 20 lbs/ 6%

DB Pull Over: 132 lbs/ 161 lbs/ 29 lbs/ 18%

I couldn't tally the results for legs because my back was a major factor in my squats... which in turn affected the rest of leg day. Please don't think that I simply neglected legs (they are one of my favorite body parts to do). It's just that the poundages were all over the place depending on how fried my back was after warming up squats. I'll be switching to leg press for the next cycle of STS, so my back won't bother me (and in turn the results will be easier to read).

I have never seen across the board improvements like this ever, let alone in 8 weeks. If there was ever any doubt about STS, I hope that this helps put them to rest. If you're looking for something new to jump start your gains, I highly recommend that you try STS (and log it).

Special thanks to Ronnie Rowland for all your help and support. You have been a great coach and friend. The advice/instruction that you have given me has helped me go farther than I ever before.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie asked if I would post this here as well. If you'd like to read over the whole thing, you can check my log.

So it took me awhile, but I have put together a progress report for improvements made over my first STS cycle.

As far as weight goes... I began at 215 lbs around 12% BF. I was able to maintain my BF % throughout. I stepped on the scale at 223 lbs on Fri. I know where the fat goes on my body when I gain it, and I can say that from the way my cloths fit, or I should say the way the don't fit, the weight gain is muscle. i.e. tight in the arms, chest/back, shoulders, ands thighs. My waist hasn't changed. The goal was to gain a solid 8 lbs of muscle, and that's what happened. YIPEE! (sorry , couldn't help it, lol)

As for strength... Holy Crap!! I calculated 1 rep maxs on bodybuilding.com (both before and after) for the sake of coming up with results that are easier to measure. I don't know if it will impress you guys, but I was extremely happy w/ them.

Exercise: Before/ After/ Difference/ % change

Bench Press: 366 lbs/ 387 lbs/ 21 lbs/ 5.5%

Dead Lift: 470 lbs/ 496 lbs/ 26 lbs/ 5%

Stiff Leg Deads: 393 lbs/ 470 lbs/ 77 lbs/ 27%

T Bar Row: 315 lbs/ 447 lbs/ 132 lbs/ 30%

Bentover BB Row: 320 lbs/ 340 lbs/ 20 lbs/ 6%

DB Pull Over: 132 lbs/ 161 lbs/ 29 lbs/ 18%

I couldn't tally the results for legs because my back was a major factor in my squats... which in turn affected the rest of leg day. Please don't think that I simply neglected legs (they are one of my favorite body parts to do). It's just that the poundages were all over the place depending on how fried my back was after warming up squats. I'll be switching to leg press for the next cycle of STS, so my back won't bother me (and in turn the results will be easier to read).

I have never seen across the board improvements like this ever, let alone in 8 weeks. If there was ever any doubt about STS, I hope that this helps put them to rest. If you're looking for something new to jump start your gains, I highly recommend that you try STS (and log it).

Special thanks to Ronnie Rowland for all your help and support. You have been a great coach and friend. The advice/instruction that you have given me has helped me go farther than I ever before.

I truly appreciate this testimonial Tenmoney. It's words like these that has continually motivated me in helping others find an edge.

I have learned throught out my years as a personal trainer, it is not one's presense in trials, but one's victory over them that brings forth muscular growth and maturity as a bodybuilder!

[RoaringMad Mac]

Here Here, And talking to you just about everynight now I know how you are and truely belive you are here to help people.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Here Here, And talking to you just about everynight now I know how you are and truely belive you are here to help people.

Defintely! One of the most frustrating things that a bodybuilder or anyone who lifts weights experiences is nagging injuries and sticking points. This rule applies to steroid users as well. It's one of the biggest reasons people quit training. I really want people to understand how this can put a halt on their training results!!!

What fun is training if you are not pumped up and excited about returning to the gym?

[NewJuice]

Hey how much for the slingshot program
???

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey how much for the slingshot program
???

New Juice it's only $2,000.00. Just kidding! It's free and it's a sticky located at the top of our workout section.

Click on the link provided to learn more about Slingshot Training. Go to page 4 of the thread and begin reading at post 138 for the summarized and most up to date version.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=314569

[seattleironpumper]

I will give the program a try. hell I will give anything a try if its free!!!!!

[seattleironpumper]

infact slingshot pm me I am fresh back into working out we look like the same age, I will the poster boy if your program works like u say!!!!!!

[Ronnie Rowland]

infact slingshot pm me I am fresh back into working out we look like the same age, I will the poster boy if your program works like u say!!!!!!


Okay then, it's time for you to put Slingshot Training to the test. Keep in mind that diet is also involved in the equation. Looking forward to watching you move up in the "Muscle World".

[sphincter]

Ronnie RAWKS!! I am finally going to start his system next week!! WOOT!!!!

[RoaringMad Mac]

For those of you that doubt that the STS system works or not here are some updated pics of Ronnie.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie RAWKS!! I am finally going to start his system next week!! WOOT!!!!

Thanks sphincter! Your'e gonna love Slingshot Training..

[Ronnie Rowland]

For those of you that doubt that the STS system works or not here are some updated pics of Ronnie.

Thanks Mac for posting those pics from last weekend.

For about the past 6 months or so, I've been using nothing but Creatine/Leucine as my anabolics during the 6 week mass phases and HRT (200 mgs of test cyp) as my base.

[Lemonada8]

do you have like a pdf file so i can print it out? cause thats alot of info on several posts... and i'm looking forward to doin the slingshot in may... ( cause then i can finally lift on my own)

[Ronnie Rowland]

do you have like a pdf file so i can print it out? cause thats alot of info on several posts... and i'm looking forward to doin the slingshot in may... ( cause then i can finally lift on my own)

Anyone who wants the Slingshot Training System in PDF FILE needs to pm me.

Thank you,

Ronnie

[Spratt]

Just a heads up for everyone. I know Ronnie, in fact im technically his boss. Those pictures are of him. if you want a current one of him and I then ill do that to settle this bullshit. Ronnie knows his shit. All he wants to do is help people achieve what they're trying to achieve. He isnt trying to sell anything, hell the whole program is up here for free for everyone to print off(my roommate just did that in fact)So stop the internet tuff guy BS, I can take all the pics you want. Just let me know what you want to settle this once and for all.......

[Ronnie Rowland]

Here's a recent picture of the vascularity in my quads. I'm not a very vascular person and it's taken a lot of hard work on my behalf to progress to this point.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Trying to get that Boulder-Shoulder look...

[moush]

I think ya got it Ronnie!! Great job man...your looking good

[Ronnie Rowland]

I think ya got it Ronnie!! Great job man...your looking good


Thanks Moush!

Here's a recent picture of me pumping up the biceps in my home gym. I train both at Golds and my house.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Here's a couple of pics taken this past week after working shoulders.

[audis4]

damn bro!
lookin mean! What are your stats currently? are you bulking?

[Ronnie Rowland]

damn bro!
lookin mean! What are your stats currently? are you bulking?

Thanks audis4!

I am currently on a Slingshot Cutting Phase (training 5 days per week with 12 sets per body part once a week). I was 240 lbs when I started 8 week ago. I am using a 3-low/1-high-2-low/1-high weekly carb cycle rotation.

Not sure what I weigh. I have learned I do better not weighing myself until I reach my bodyfat level goals. It has to do with not psyching myself out when the weight on the scales begin to fall. I use the mirror to judge my progress.

[thetank]

Trying to get that Boulder-Shoulder look...

uhh...pretty sure you've successfully accomplished that already man! DAMN.

[audis4]

Thanks audis4!

I am currently on a Slingshot Cutting Phase (training 5 days per week with 12 sets per body part once a week). I was 240 lbs when I started 8 week ago. I am using a 3-low/1-high-2-low/1-high weekly carb cycle rotation.

Not sure what I weigh. I have learned I do better not weighing myself until I reach my bodyfat level goals. It has to do with not psyching myself out when the weight on the scales begin to fall. I use the mirror to judge my progress.

ya, the scale can really be discouraging for me :lol:

anyhow, I just started the slingshot on monday, so far so good :wg:
I'll let you know how things go.

next month I'm adding in a few 'substances' and I will adjust as needed ;)

[Ronnie Rowland]

ya, the scale can really be discouraging for me :lol:

anyhow, I just started the slingshot on monday, so far so good :wg:
I'll let you know how things go.

next month I'm adding in a few 'substances' and I will adjust as needed ;)

Please keep me updated on your progress...

[Sacdeez]

How bout a full body shot with wheels included with some posing trunks on.

I would like to see how complete your overall package is as gay as that sounds.

[Ronnie Rowland]

How bout a full body shot with wheels included with some posing trunks on.

I would like to see how complete your overall package is as gay as that sounds.

Will do soon but I am going to skip on the posing trunks because I do not own any...LOL..I do not compete...

[Ronnie Rowland]

A recent upper body shot taken before working out.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Trying to duplicate the Arnold classic Pose! I think this is one will be my new avatar for now...:bbbump:

[Ronnie Rowland]

Holding some water but abs beginning to come out a bit..Still working on them..:chairshot

[Ronnie Rowland]

Taken last week..

[BUYLONGTERM]

WOW, Very impressive! I would love to try this method. The problem is having ADD, I can't absorb all the reading it takes to do this. I am a VERY VERY hard gainer and I haven't made progress in months. My body looks the same as it has for the last few years. Any help would be appreciated!

A big grats on all your hard work and for all the help and support you've given to everyone!

BLT

[rockel]

Hey Ronnie,do you got a little summarized version of the slingshot system?

My english is really bad,thank you.

I cant send PM of some reason..

[burnin69]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4713823

PRIME/BLAST/CRUISE

The Slingshot Training System

By Ronnie Rowland author of the “Slingshot Training System.”

WARNING: READ FIRST

No liability is assumed by the author for information contained within. Anabolic steroids are illegal in many countries and are not condoned by the author. All readers, are advises that any form of supplements or drugs described may be illegal, prohibited, or used only with a doctors prescription. The author does not participate, advocate, or encourage in any illegal activities. Readers must consult with appropriate legal and medical authorities if not certain about what has been stated in this article.

Rules for the STS thread.

1. Please do not PM question to me in regards to training and diet. I want answers to be in public for everyone to view.

2. I am here to help both recreational and competitive bodybuilders of all levels.

3. Please post all Slingshot Training questions in this thread. If you begin another thread on the topic of Slingshot Training it might not get answered.

Introduction:

When many bodybuilders hit a plateau, what do they do? They begin to push even harder by adding more intensity or exercises to their routine. This kind of thinking is wrong because a muscle has to be exposed to something it is not used to doing without over-training the nervous system and joints. Adding additional exercises or trying to use beyond failure techniques is widely accepted for producing frustrated bodybuilders!

It's no secret that progressively adding more weight to every lift is a sure-fire way to increase total lean body mass, given the diet, training volume, and exercise selection is spot on. Almost everyone starts out using low volume. They grow at a phenomenal rate until the body adapts and quits responding. Because some feel the gains were so great using the lower volume approach, they begin to try and lift heavier weights while using the same program for extended periods of time. They put continued pressure on themselves to try to beat personal records each training session in hopes it will somehow further their muscle mass. Unfortunately, they end up with nothing more than chronic injuries and stagnation as a result.

The intelligent trainer's switch-over to using more volume, while the less fortunate keep thinking less is always more! The next mistake comes into play by the trainees who have switched over to using the higher volume approach. Many bodybuilders become so overwhelmed with their newly found muscle mass after having increased the volume that they begin to reason with themselves thinking more must always be done from that point on. They quickly hit a point of diminishing returns and eventually develop over-use injuries and an over-trained nervous system, instead of reverting back to using a lower amount of volume that worked so well at the beginning.

Sometimes their training will take the form of more sets-reps, exercises, intensity, training sessions, etc. Some are in constant search for the latest routines that will shock their muscles even further. However, all this does is hold them back even more because no one can overcome diminishing returns or keep using the same routine for extended periods of time and expect to make good gains!

** As a bodybuilder you will be going up against giants. In biblical times David used a "slingshot" to destroy his largest opponent of all, Goliath. Slingshot Training will dramatically change your physique in a short amount of time, trust me on this one.* *

Every time I browse the internet it’s the same old question being asked over and over again; “What’s the best training routine to gain lean muscle mass and strength?” Many of you are jumping from program to program and it’s not really making any noticeable differences in your strength or appearance. Some of you were making gains but have now reached a plateau. Others believe that a properly structured routine won’t really make much difference in comparison to other training programs and you tend to be either an obsessive-compulsive high volume bodybuilder (always going for a pump) or an obsessive-compulsive low volume bodybuilder (always trying to gain more strength). If you fall into any of these categories, I want to share with you what I have found optimal for making forward progress as an off-season bodybuilder.

The big picture is learning what it takes to create an effective progressive over-load (lift more weight) without getting injured and then taking those strength gains and proceeding forward to create a true progressive over-load (performing more sets with heavier weight loads) without developing over-use injuries and over-training. Add the proper nutrition into the mix and that’s how you get results. I refer to this as using a slingshot approach (hurling intensity to the muscles).

If you gain strength but fail to gain some muscle size over time, it’s because you are not eating enough calories. If you gain strength but neglect to increase training volume during a period of using more calories to put on weight, you will gain more body fat and less muscle size. Combining more [b]volume with extra calories and increased strength gains is what causes maximum growth. Then you must periodize these 3 factors so progress and recuperation can be made year round.

Training has to do with adaptation. Volume, Intensity and Strength have their limitations. None of them are infinite. For e.g.; If you perform 1 intense set of heavy barbell curls twice a week, the neural pathways will eventually adjust themselves by getting stronger so they can handle an even heavier weight load next time you train. Yes, the biceps will get stronger, but not necessarily a lot bigger. Stay with me here! When you take advantage of the added strength gains made by using less volume and then co-mingling those added strength gains with additional training volume while not over-training, you can be assured you will grow bigger muscles. That is how you create a true progressive overload! You can use all the fancy beyond failure training methods such as drop sets and rest-pause for hours on end and never create a true progressive overload because limitless adaptation equals a heavier workload in conjunction with additional volume to breakdown down more muscle tissue, while never going past the point of diminishing returns.

A progressive over-load and a true progressive over-load are not one in the same. Creating a progressive over-load is brought forth by being able to lift more weight using the same form, amount of work sets, and rest periods between sets. A true progressive over-load (a phrase I coined) is also brought forth when you can lift more weight using the same form, and rest periods between sets, but the amount of work sets performed must be greater than what’s required to produce a progressive over-load!

Multitudes of people, especially our youth, are often guilty of listening to those who are taking or have taken a ton of anabolic drugs. Not that there’s anything wrong with adults taking anabolics, but when these individuals use their stats to bolster arguments in favor of some idiosyncratic approach to training and dieting, it becomes the flavor-of-the-month approach to bodybuilding. The truth is, a lot of drug- enhanced bodybuilders make impressive initial gains, but are not making continued gains because they do not know what constitutes proper diet and training.

I am of the opinion that all beyond failure training techniques are just an egotistical way to promote a radically different training method! I have developed an advanced training system that will work for anyone that is willing to give it a chance. It goes against a lot of the Muscle Mag Dogma that’s continually being rehashed. There’s no rest-pause, drop sets, super sets, forced reps, etc. Many training systems sound whacky because they are whacky. If you do something extreme, it’s going to be something you can’t live with so it’s bound to fail. No one has nor will they ever, devise a training technique that will work as good as straight sets for building size and strength. There’s a very good reason that most veterans in this sport have stopped using extreme training techniques. It doesn’t matter if beyond failure training techniques are used in the lower rep-ranges or the higher rep-ranges because the burn and stress still carries over to the vulnerable joints and tendons-hence greatly increasing your odds of developing tendonitis and tearing a tendon.

Power-lifters and those who compete in the world’s strongest man competitions are some of the largest men to ever walk on the face of this planet. They obtain their massiveness by utilizing nothing other than straight sets. Every training method other than straight sets has fallen short of what I consider optimal for providing fast, safe, and efficient results. Using beyond failure training methods like rest-pause, forced reps and drop sets will force you to train with less volume and weight. Therefore, you won’t be able to keep the training volume and weight loads high enough for a long enough period to experience maximum muscular growth.
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Author of the "Slingshot Training System"

[burnin69]

I also notice theres a mole of some sort on your face in the second picture but not in the first one atleast not in the same place???

[rockel]

Never mather,i understood most of it,only thing i want now is to be able to send PM,just wanna make sure i got everything .

Thanks.

[Ronnie Rowland]

After I finish my updated version of Slingshot Training-I will do my best to help out each individual to the best of my ability. The newer version is "much" easier to understand and all typo errors are being removed.

With the latest updates there are only 2 training cycles- A "2- week anabolic prime" and a "6-12 week anabolic blast". The updated diet plan is very easy to follow as well. I will begin making updates to the STS routines this week. Hope to be finished with everything in 1-2 weeks.

##I am really excited for those of you who are going to give Slingshot Training an honest try##


Read through what I have worked on thus far and things should become clear.
Below is the link that Moderator Doc Sust will post at the top of the workout section when I am finished. Please do not make any post in the given link!I'm here to help any way I can. I really love this board and it's members... http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=348723

[rockel]

You do recommend on waiting 1-2 weeks then or?

[Ronnie Rowland]

You do recommend on waiting 1-2 weeks then or?

Yes please!

[IronReload04]

deleted because its none of my busines

[F4iGuy]

I like slingshot. My back likes slingshot too. Thanks Ron.

[Ronnie Rowland]

I like slingshot. My back likes slingshot too. Thanks Ron.

Your lats are jacked F4iDOM!!!:lol:

[Ronnie Rowland]

Recent picture of my forearm after doing uni-lateral hammer curls on an inverted preacher curl bench..

[audis4]

^^holy shit, nice work bro.

I wouldn't be offended if you pm'ed me your cycle :lol:

[rockel]

Recent picture of my forearm after doing uni-lateral hammer curls on an inverted preacher curl bench..

Freaky :)

How's the updated version going?,could you dare to give us a estimated date?

[Ronnie Rowland]

^^holy shit, nice work bro.

I wouldn't be offended if you pm'ed me your cycle :lol:

I'll be more than glad to pm you. You will be surprised to see how much of my improvements are due to hard work in the gym and eating properly.:lol:

[Ronnie Rowland]

Freaky :)

How's the updated version going?,could you dare to give us a estimated date?

The updated version is coming together nicely but taking longer than I anticipated due to my heavy work schedule. I am leaving to the beach this week so it will be a while before I can finish this thing for everyone.

Until the Slingshot Training updates are finalized ,I encourage you to go study the link below containing my most recent updates. THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS. It's a lot of detailed information but probably the simpliest training system to follow once you get a basic understanding. It's done wonders for me and my trainees. Attached is a picture of one of our board members named Moush. I am very proud of his dedication to Slingshot Training. You can tell by looking at his pic it's paying off! Go read this link for detailed information regarding Slingshot Training... http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=348723

[RoaringMad Mac]

I was going back over this program and it just hit me that this was the one that I have been looking for soooooo long.

Ronnie I am serious, This for me is the best workout plan I have seen laid out.

I had thought about doing things in order like this at one point, Just did not think it would work for me but you made me see that it would work.

Thanks again.

Oh yeah, Iron Reload why did you delete your message I would like to hear what you want to say now?????

[Gears]

NEVERMIND, I see the link.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Front double bicep pose taken at Myrtle Beach this weekend.

[TatMan]

You look great Ronnie!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks to everyone here at AR for the kind words and boost of encouragement!

Rear lat spread taken at pool yesterday.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Rear Lat Spread from different angle.

I wish I had been born with a smaller waist line. I have my dad to thank for that genetic bestowment..:lol:

[AdamGH]

Rear Lat Spread from different angle.

I wish I had been born with a smaller waist line. I have my dad to thank for that genetic bestowment..:lol:

I have same problem. I think it is from the squats, but I am not sure. My dad is 6' and I am 5' 10." I have bigger waist than him and he doesn't exercise lol.

[Ronnie Rowland]

I have same problem. I think it is from the squats, but I am not sure. My dad is 6' and I am 5' 10." I have bigger waist than him and he doesn't exercise lol.

Adam, I think squats are over-rated for causing a thick waist. Arnold squatted himself silly and look how tiny his mid-section was on stage. It has to do with genetics for the most part.

[VASCULAR VINCE]

Holy Shit Ronnie!!! Do you have a pro card?

Some of us just read through your updated slingshot thread in the workout section. We gym members are becoming more and more impressed. Hands down the best article we have read on the internet.

[VASCULAR VINCE]

Ron, sorry I do not want to hi jack your photo spread but will you please take a look at this and provide me with more insight. Fired up about slingshot.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354915

[ed the cowboy]

I've been lurking this board for a while and decided to make a post concerning Slingshot Training and Ronnie's before and after shots.

How everyone decides to train is their own business. With that thought taken we as a society have evolved into believing "anthing goes" and this is precisely what Ronnie warns against. I look up to Ronnie as a bodybuilding mentor because he's merely trying to help others understand-not tell them what to think. We all tend to draw those lines in different places. I think Mr.Rowland's Slingshot Training System is the best I have ever come across.

The before and after shots have been very inspirational to me. Ronnie has made some amazing progress. Props to you big guy and thank you for sharing with the general public. You da man!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Holy Shit Ronnie!!! Do you have a pro card?

Some of us just read through your updated slingshot thread in the workout section. We gym members are becoming more and more impressed. Hands down the best article we have read on the internet.

Pro Card...LOL..I've never even competed vince. Professional bodybuilder Tricky Jackson is the guy who got his Pro Card with the help of Slingshot Training.

Thanks for taking the time to read my article. It has already helped a lot of people who had been struggling.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ron, sorry I do not want to hi jack your photo spread but will you please take a look at this and provide me with more insight. Fired up about slingshot.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354915

I think the guys in the thread gave you sound advise. When it comes to using anabolics with Slingshot Training the avenues are many.

Now if you really wanted to run d-bol for 8 weeks, you could! I've seen guys do it with no liver problems. If you decide to go that route you could use it after the tren/test combo kicks in. By combining all 3 compounds at once as opposed to using the d-bol to jump-start your cycle, it would produce a synergistic muscle building effect. Then again, you could follow the other methods recommended. The choice is yours.

[moush]

Ronnie...i just came across that thread you posted with me in it...id like to say a very big thank you to Ronnie for all the time and efforts he put in to get me to where I am. I am sitting at about 210 lbs at 10-12% bf if not less. I will get pics up this weekend for you guys to see...i may have put on a few lbs due to having a gf but i can still see my abs and im vascular too so im happy!

[VASCULAR VINCE]

I think the guys in the thread gave you sound advise. When it comes to using anabolics with Slingshot Training the avenues are many.

Now if you really wanted to run d-bol for 8 weeks, you could! I've seen guys do it with no liver problems. If you decide to go that route you could use it after the tren/test combo kicks in. By combining all 3 compounds at once as opposed to using the d-bol to jump-start your cycle, it would produce a synergistic muscle building effect. Then again, you could follow the other methods recommended. The choice is yours.

Precisely what I have been searching for Ron..:bbAily:

[Ronnie Rowland]

I've been lurking this board for a while and decided to make a post concerning Slingshot Training and Ronnie's before and after shots.

How everyone decides to train is their own business. With that thought taken we as a society have evolved into believing "anthing goes" and this is precisely what Ronnie warns against. I look up to Ronnie as a bodybuilding mentor because he's merely trying to help others understand-not tell them what to think. We all tend to draw those lines in different places. I think Mr.Rowland's Slingshot Training System is the best I have ever come across.

The before and after shots have been very inspirational to me. Ronnie has made some amazing progress. Props to you big guy and thank you for sharing with the general public. You da man!

I'm glad to be of assistance Ed!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie...i just came across that thread you posted with me in it...id like to say a very big thank you to Ronnie for all the time and efforts he put in to get me to where I am. I am sitting at about 210 lbs at 10-12% bf if not less. I will get pics up this weekend for you guys to see...i may have put on a few lbs due to having a gf but i can still see my abs and im vascular too so im happy!

So bascially what you are saying is that sex with your new girlfriend is making you hungry...LOL..I was my fattest ever after having been married for 6 months..Glad to see you are happy.

Looking forward to seeing your pics Moush! Feel free to post them in this thread along with your own.

[kynetguy]

Rear Lat Spread from different angle.

I wish I had been born with a smaller waist line. I have my dad to thank for that genetic bestowment..:lol:

Dude, your Lat is in the way of the lens. . .:haha:

Nice lat spread!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Veins popping out of my legs..I know, I need to shave them...:1laugh:

[Ronnie Rowland]

Another leg shot...

[RangersLTW]

Thanks for your advice Ronnie
I switched some things up today that you suggested

[Reed]

Dude I've gotta give you mad props. The legs with all the veins is GREAT. Very good work.

[firmechicano831]

great transformation bro. Keep up the hard work going. You're looking solid!

[PT]

insane change bro. you did a great job completly changing your body and im sure your proud of yourself as you should be. what kind of steroids and doses were you running?

[BUYLONGTERM]

I would give anything to try to slingshot method but again way to much reading. I'd rather just pay someone to come to Chicago and train me for a few days.

BLT

[rockel]

Veins popping out of my legs..I know, I need to shave them...:1laugh:

Damn good job..

Just got back to this site,are you done updating and satisfied with the new system now so i can get to try it?

Thanks for even making this program,will be great to try it.


Apologizes for my terrible english by the way.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Dude I've gotta give you mad props. The legs with all the veins is GREAT. Very good work.

Thank you! I really do need to shave my legs..:wg:

[Ronnie Rowland]

great transformation bro. Keep up the hard work going. You're looking solid!

Thank you!

[Ronnie Rowland]

insane change bro. you did a great job completly changing your body and im sure your proud of yourself as you should be. what kind of steroids and doses were you running?

You have a PM...

[Ronnie Rowland]

I would give anything to try to slingshot method but again way to much reading. I'd rather just pay someone to come to Chicago and train me for a few days.

BLT

I do fly to train people but it's usually groups of people.

I am almost finished with the Slingshot Training updates. The Slingshot Diet plays a major role as well. I am spoon feeding it in the revised version. I'll let you know when it's finished. You should have no problems following the new updates.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Damn good job..

Just got back to this site,are you done updating and satisfied with the new system now so i can get to try it?

Thanks for even making this program,will be great to try it.


Apologizes for my terrible english by the way.

rockel, sorry for my delay in getting back with you..My computer was down for a while with a virus. You are ready to try the updated Slingshot Training System!!! All I have left to do is the 5 day splits and some touch up work. Here's the link just in case you need it- http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=348723

[Ronnie Rowland]

The Slingshot Training System has been updated!

Here's the link- http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=348723




Here's a recent pic of me training triceps at Gold's Gym..I'm in a mass gaining phase at the present..

http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/ronrowland/ronnie_Sep23.jpg

[Ronnie Rowland]

Tricep pic taken last Sunday.

http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/ronrowland/cid__media1-6.jpg

[Ronnie Rowland]

21 inch biceps...


http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/ronrowland/cid__media1-4.jpg

[Ronnie Rowland]

My wife Kathy and I training our arms at Golds this past weekend.

http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/ronrowland/ATT00115.jpg

[Z-Ro]

Of course my before and after photos are real!!!

Here are my transformation pictures using the Slingshot Training System.

Pic 1) I had not trained in a couple of years due to having surgeries. Picture was taken at age 32. I know it was sad...LOL..

Pic 2) Taken at age 39 for local newpaper. I had just got back into training after having been off for 6 months from a bicep tendon repair surgery. I popped my tendon experimenting with rest-pause training (never again)!!!

Pic 3 ) Taken after my bicep tendon surgery (OUCH)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pic 4) Taken at age 41 during an off-season bulking phase.

Nice transformation.

I read a good amount of the posts on this thread and I must say that I never heard of this method called STS but...

there is a well-known trainer on these boards that I worked with that has a training method VERY similar to this. All I can tell you is before my life got really busy I was following this method almost to a T and eating very well OFF CYCLE mind you, and I was getting lots of compliments about how I "seemed to be getting bigger every week". All I was using was creatine, whey, NO2 supplement...

[Ronnie Rowland]

Nice transformation.

I read a good amount of the posts on this thread and I must say that I never heard of this method called STS but...

there is a well-known trainer on these boards that I worked with that has a training method VERY similar to this. All I can tell you is before my life got really busy I was following this method almost to a T and eating very well OFF CYCLE mind you, and I was getting lots of compliments about how I "seemed to be getting bigger every week". All I was using was creatine, whey, NO2 supplement...

You make a good point about being able to make gains as a natural. I've seen guys who did not respond well to steroids but could make great gains by training smart and eating a well balanced diet. I've also seen people who responded well to "legal" pro-hormones.

[Ronnie Rowland]

I'm 8 weeks out from doing my first show. I have helped others get on stage but never had the desire to to it myself until this year. So far the journey has been fun. 8 more weeks til show time. I plan to enter 3 different classes.

HERES SOME PICS TAKEN AT THE GYM YESTERDAY AFTER TRAINING CHEST/ABS. KEEP IN MIND I AM FLAT FROM BEING IN KETOSIS. I WILL EXPAND DURING THE CARBING UP PHASE.

SIDE CHEST-"TRICEP VEINS" STARTING TO APPEAR IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY:7up:

[Ronnie Rowland]

front lat spread

[Ronnie Rowland]

rear lat spread

[Ronnie Rowland]

ab shot

[Ronnie Rowland]

delts

[Ronnie Rowland]

traps

[Ronnie Rowland]

front delts

[FireGuy1]

Looking solid Mr Rowland, way to represent the over 40 club.

[TheJuicer]

How about some leg shots? Whats your weight at now and what do you think you'll weigh on stage...look awesome by the way!

[VASCULAR VINCE]

bump for legs shots.....given the fact you are a 43 year old hardgainer... you have come a hell of a along way big man..:bbAily:

[Ronnie Rowland]

I'll have my wife get some leg shots later today for you guys. I appreciate all the support!

[mperk]

Nice job dude!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Looking solid Mr Rowland, way to represent the over 40 club.

Thank you..It certainly gets tougher as we age..

[Ronnie Rowland]

How about some leg shots? Whats your weight at now and what do you think you'll weigh on stage...look awesome by the way! I am weighing around 200 when carb depleted at 5'9 and about 208 after carb loading. I gained 8 pounds in roughly 8 hours last saturday by simplying eating 500 grams of carbs. I over did it and it took half the next day to get back in ketosis-so it seemed.

Will probably hit the stage in the upper 180's to lower 190's area after carb loading. Weight is not my concern so much as getting down to 4% body fat. I've watched guys try and come in too big only to be smoked by a lighter guy who was ripped to shreds.

[Ronnie Rowland]

The day after eating some carbs. I am in ketosis so fats and salt are the only thing giving me some pump on most days.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Starting to show some quad vascularity. My quads use to be a strong point before my lower back injury. Due to nerve damage they will never be the same.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Left quad showing a few more veins than my right in this pic.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hams-not a strong point but getting harder..

[Ronnie Rowland]

Calves-they are puny and nothing will ever change that...LOL

[TheJuicer]

You look great! Awesome job!!

[_Dave_]

I couldn't care less whether or not it's marketing or not. Whether the program works, or not. I would just like to see more before pictures of the same dude. Those are INSANE results and good for you.

So shut the nay sayers up!

[_Dave_]

WTF? Sorry guys - wrong thread. I've got a bunch of windows up all on this site. My bad...

[Ronnie Rowland]

I couldn't care less whether or not it's marketing or not. Whether the program works, or not. I would just like to see more before pictures of the same dude. Those are INSANE results and good for you.

So shut the nay sayers up!

I should probably dig up some before pics and scan them. They are hard for me to look at...:tear:

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ab shot taken yesterday..The keto diet is tough at times but works well when enough fat is consumed...

[Ronnie Rowland]

I have 6 more weeks to hit 5% body fat...

I'm really proud of my wife (Kathy). She's doing better on this no carb diet than the males I am helping prep for this show!!!

[GGallin]

Thats crazy lean

[xnotoriousx]

damn ronnie, I wish you would hurry up with that book. i'm ready to try this stuff out.

[VASCULAR VINCE]

quite obvious why ronnie and kathy..... are known as the poster-children for golds gym..dang you are shredded.....

[mperk]

Dude - lookin awsome - you really leaned out without loosing thickness! awsome work. BTW how old are you? (I'm 49) great motivation for me!

Way to go, bro!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Dude - lookin awsome - you really leaned out without loosing thickness! awsome work. BTW how old are you? (I'm 49) great motivation for me!

Way to go, bro!

I am 43 mperk. Don't let your age stop you! We older guys still have something left in the tank..:7up:

[thebigguyy1]

I am 43 mperk. Don't let your age stop you! We older guys still have something left in the tank..:7up:

Being 49, I agree totally!

And congrats on the transformation! Always good to see another 40 something serious lifter out there.

I'm still going for more muscle mass and loving every second of it! (currently 250 at 6' in avatar)

keep pumpin and growin!

Ron

http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=98847&stc=1&d=1239971104

[Ronnie Rowland]

being 49, i agree totally!

And congrats on the transformation! Always good to see another 40 something serious lifter out there.

I'm still going for more muscle mass and loving every second of it! (currently 250 at 6' in avatar)

keep pumpin and growin!

Ron

http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=98847&stc=1&d=1239971104

wow!!! What a transformation bigguy!!! Nice job!!

[Ronnie Rowland]

4 WEEKS OUT!!! WISH ME LUCK EVERYONE!!!

Ronnie

[Ronnie Rowland]

Side triceps..

[Ronnie Rowland]

Most muscular...Still holding a lot of water!!!

[xnotoriousx]

looking freaky

[thebigguyy1]

Most muscular...Still holding a lot of water!!!

Thanks for the comment, Fellow Ron!

For four weeks out from contest you are looking damn good! What class/division are you competing in?

I think you will hit right on the mark on contest day, and do let us all know how it goes!

Good luck and keep pumpin!

Ron III---III

http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=98946&stc=1&d=1240295116

[mperk]

Hey Ronnie;

Looking awsome for 4 weeks out!!! - really tight and way vascular - great size! you will be impressive to say the least. What show is it and what catagory are you in?

[VASCULAR VINCE]

for an older dude with so-so genes...you are looking diced!!! inspirational is the word that best describes what i be seeing........

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks for the comment, Fellow Ron!

For four weeks out from contest you are looking damn good! What class/division are you competing in?

I think you will hit right on the mark on contest day, and do let us all know how it goes!

Good luck and keep pumpin!

Ron III---III

http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=98946&stc=1&d=1240295116

Thanks Ron!

I plan on doing 3 classes as it stands. The novice, the masters and the light/heavy. I hope I endure.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ronnie;

Looking awsome for 4 weeks out!!! - really tight and way vascular - great size! you will be impressive to say the least. What show is it and what catagory are you in?


NPC Palmetto Cup in Columbia SC.


1) The novice class since I am a first time competitor. After 10 weeks of ketosis it's clear as to why I also enjoyed helping others with their contest- pre instead of competing...lol... I would not have done this show if it had not been for my wife.The guys at the gym begged her to do this thing because her genetics are very good. I knew this thing would be hard on her if I was slurping down carbs so I dieted down with her for support. Aftr a couple of weeks dieting I decided to do the show as well. Aferall, if I am going to diet down this hard I want to show it off. Now i am glad I did. It's been quite a journey and still have almost 3 weeks to go. I love it so far! I may compete again if things go well.

2) Masters class in 35-50 age group.

3) Lgt/Hvy class unless I can get some more weight off without losing too much muscle.

thank you!

Ronnie

[Ronnie Rowland]

Holding some water but bicep/tricep vascularity showing on sunday after saturday's carb-up..

[mperk]

Man - you look fantastic - bi pic is great w/ awsome vascularity! Wish I could hit the comp to see you in person - but I'm on the "left" coast! Gotta say - gets me energized to see your dedication & success - Go for it dude!

[xnotoriousx]

For sure, it's fun watch someone go 120% on this.

It's like watching the unbelievable. Nice job Ronnie!

[bigbody1!!]

Skeptical....

[Ronnie Rowland]

Man - you look fantastic - bi pic is great w/ awsome vascularity! Wish I could hit the comp to see you in person - but I'm on the "left" coast! Gotta say - gets me energized to see your dedication & success - Go for it dude! Thank you! Much appreciated.

[Ronnie Rowland]

For sure, it's fun watch someone go 120% on this.

It's like watching the unbelievable. Nice job Ronnie! Thank you! I have put in some effort for sure.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Skeptical....Too me that's a compliment. I am proof that a very hard gainer can make gains when things are done properly.

[Ronnie Rowland]

2 weeks out!

[Ronnie Rowland]

2 weeks out!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Intercostals -2 weeks out!

[FireGuy1]

Looking solid my man. If you are open for advice I put in my two cents. Doing 3 classes (especially for your 1st show) is crazy. I did 2 classes for the first time ever last year and NEVER again. I was so drained by the 2 class that going into the 3rd round of comparisons I could barely hold my poses. I have a couple other friends who did 2 classes at the same show and they all say the same thing, never again. If you get lucky and have very small classes they might not work you too hard but if you go 3-4 rounds of comparisons at prejudging you are going to be worthless (and flat) in the last class. More power to you if you can make it happen but I think it's a bit much to try and pull off. Good luck in whatever you choose to do!

[xnotoriousx]

very solid, good luck at the comp!

[mperk]

Yo bro - you are looking very solid - nicely cut up with great definition. Good luck buddy!

[thebigguyy1]

2 weeks out!

Wow! Great shot and looking solid! Looks like you hit it dead on target come comp day.

Looks like you are ready to take 'em all on! Do keep us up to speed, and good luck!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Looking solid my man. If you are open for advice I put in my two cents. Doing 3 classes (especially for your 1st show) is crazy. I did 2 classes for the first time ever last year and NEVER again. I was so drained by the 2 class that going into the 3rd round of comparisons I could barely hold my poses. I have a couple other friends who did 2 classes at the same show and they all say the same thing, never again. If you get lucky and have very small classes they might not work you too hard but if you go 3-4 rounds of comparisons at prejudging you are going to be worthless (and flat) in the last class. More power to you if you can make it happen but I think it's a bit much to try and pull off. Good luck in whatever you choose to do!

I think you are giving me some good advice and it's truly appreciated. I am always open to suggestions. I will probably wait and do the open in my next show. I just found out that my wife is wanting to do the state show 4 weeks from now while she is still cut. This was a shocker! I may have created a monster I cannot tame.:1laugh:

[jbm]

Nice and solid... Wish I could also be freaking huge!

[xnotoriousx]

Nice and solid... Wish I could also be freaking huge!

join the club my man.....

[Slide]

Love the veins...

[jbm]

join the club my man.....

Slingshot club?

[just eat]

i hope i look that good at that age. awsome work

[xnotoriousx]

Slingshot club?

I was talking about the


wish i could be huge club, but the slingshot club might get us there so why not?

[Epic1]

anymore pics?

[GGallin]

Damn thats almost too lean man. Freaky lean. Good job.

[CHAP]

Ronnie I cought you at the comp tointe thought you looked great. Congrats your not a vigin to competing anymore. When I get ready to do one in a couple years I'll come see you to get some input.. Looked great though.

[bjpennnn]

lets see some pics

[CHAP]

lets see some pics

I'll be very suprised if we see him on here tonite he is probably wiped the hell out. Im sure the onlt thing he was thinking about was eating and getting some sleep after his last pose

[FireGuy1]

Damn thats almost too lean man. Freaky lean. Good job.

No such thing on stage.

Anyone know how he placed?

[Epic1]

No such thing on stage.

Anyone know how he placed?

well jay cutler would disagree with that :)

[RAILroad]

haha jay cutler.....thats for another thread. but where is ronnie!!!!?????

[Ronnie Rowland]

Here's a rear double bicep pose taken from the second show I entered back in june of this year. I just got the pictures in the mail. If you look close you will see veins running all across my mid/upper back! My wife had them as well but wait until you see my wifes hamstrings. I wish I had her legs.:lol:

[FireGuy1]

The delts (especially anterior) and biceps are flat out sick looking.

[wizegui88]

all i can say is wow!

[Epic1]

Yeah i those delts are insane

[mperk]

Here's a rear double bicep pose taken from the second show I entered back in june of this year. I just got the pictures in the mail. If you look close you will see veins running all across my mid/upper back! My wife had them as well but wait until you see my wifes hamstrings. I wish I had her legs.:lol:

Way to go Ronnie! that pic is awsome - how bout a link to some of the other pics? Thanks for the motivation & inspiration! - (Today is my 50th bday!!!!)

Extreme props for the achievement!:7up::7up::7up:

[Ronnie Rowland]

Taken a few week out before my show last summer. I can no longer do deadlifts or any form of lower back work due to a back injury I sustained outside the gym. If you look closely you can see the scar on my lower back where I had several surgeries to try and correct the problem.

[Epic1]

looking really good in that pic ronnie

[Ronnie Rowland]

I'm currently bulking up so my wife painted me up as "THE HULK." We just got back from a Halloween party. I lost some of my paint somewhere..lol

[mperk]

Hahahaha - damn - not many guys can pull off the Hulk without looking like Bill Bixby! Got to post a pic of the front too, you know.... Nice work dude. The non painted back shot is awsome. How long ago was the back injury?

[FireGuy1]

Hahahaha - damn - not many guys can pull off the Hulk without looking like Bill Bixby! Got to post a pic of the front too, you know.... Nice work dude. The non painted back shot is awsome. How long ago was the back injury?

Too Funny, Too True!

[Vitruvian-Man]

looking huge bro.

nice costume btw.

[MESSY_UK]

lmao this thread is STILL going?