19 y/o, Natural 215 lbs., More pics to come

[SDis623]

Hello everyone this is my first time posting a pic, I am into my bulking season for now. My weight fluxes from 215-220 mostly water im assuming, I am new to this site so HELLO! Critiquing or any comments on what i could change would gladly be accepted! pics i am posting are cold :1welcome:

[SDis623]

More:wg:

[SDis623]

Here a couple more:wg::wg:

[sponger]

your back and traps are coming along nicely. keep up the good work.

[SDis623]

Hey thanks Sponger! I have been lifting since about 14-15 football mainly then but bodybuilding hopefully, so the past 2 years ive been looking alot at diet seeing what works and what doesnt. I have a ton more tweaking to do:hello:

[soccer#3]

good size and a good foundation to start explodin. abs need a lil work. how tall are u

[eddy tye]

looks like a hint of gyno there? or just puffy nipples,they kinda look like mines...lol

[soccer#3]

looks like a hint of gyno there? or just puffy nipples,they kinda look like mines...lol

i was thinkin the same thing

[Zeros]

This may sound dum but how does your tatoo switch arms lol

[Garnelek]

lol ur right!thats weird!

[SDis623]

This may sound dum but how does your tatoo switch arms lol

hahah it was taken in a mirror. the rest of them with the different lighting werent. Yeah i was wondering if it was water i was holding in the chest are or something else!? :tear:

[SDis623]

My tattoo is on the left side anyways but i agree with the abs they do need plenty of work. I guess you can tell i hold water very easily :chairshot maybe i need to focus on the midsection a lot more

[SDis623]

good size and a good foundation to start explodin. abs need a lil work. how tall are u

I am about 5'10 or '11 too close to tell im right between at the docs

[SDis623]

looks like a hint of gyno there? or just puffy nipples,they kinda look like mines...lol

Any help on the gyno? Ive had it since I was like 14 or 15 i remember it quite well. anything i can do other than surgery?

[torontodude]

looking good bro keep it up. :)

[IamtheChitt]

You are built exactly like me, but you have a better back!

[IamtheChitt]

You are built exactly like me, but you have a better back! About the gyno, I had surgery to remove a lump behind my nipple, thats what I get for running a cycle at a young age without doing my research. But anyway, I think if you lower your body fat a little it won't look as bad. It works for me...

[SDis623]

You are built exactly like me, but you have a better back! About the gyno, I had surgery to remove a lump behind my nipple, thats what I get for running a cycle at a young age without doing my research. But anyway, I think if you lower your body fat a little it won't look as bad. It works for me...

You dont think letro or any other type of anti-e would help my problem? I was told to try from another source.... Even when i had low bf it still appeared here look... Advice?:tear:

[JSola]

good job bro lookin good

[MilitaryRecruit]

yeah i was kinda wonder how to get rid of that puffy nipple problem too. You and I are build alot alike but you have alittle more mass than me. 6 Months ago i looked like you did with the lower BF%. all natural also. But since then i put on a belly and butt lol. Looking good though imo, keep it up.

[MilitaryRecruit]

Also i seem to retain water easily. How do you tend to get rid of yours? i ussually eat less salt and drink plenty of water and it works decently but not all to great.

[SDis623]

Also i seem to retain water easily. How do you tend to get rid of yours? i ussually eat less salt and drink plenty of water and it works decently but not all to great.

Man I have no idea how i am going to approach it this time come spring/early summer. i think i need to do something soon about this puffy nip tho. im reading up on reverse gyno. i remember tender hard lumps long ago. But now it feels like tissue sitting in there. I have some ideas!:evil2: Anyone want to help?

[SDis623]

yeah i was kinda wonder how to get rid of that puffy nipple problem too. You and I are build alot alike but you have alittle more mass than me. 6 Months ago i looked like you did with the lower BF%. all natural also. But since then i put on a belly and butt lol. Looking good though imo, keep it up.

Thanks man. too bad i was running ECA stack big time in the cut picture. It was very good! Yeah I have a belly and a butt now too. Im trying to find where im going wrong:bs:

[Justarting]

Man,
What does it feel like under there? For me, I have fat, but I definately can't feel anything other than what I think is fat. I'm not sure what gyno actually feels like. Is there a huge contrast between the fat and the hard lumps, or does it sort of all feel the same?

[SDis623]

Man,
What does it feel like under there? For me, I have fat, but I definately can't feel anything other than what I think is fat. I'm not sure what gyno actually feels like. Is there a huge contrast between the fat and the hard lumps, or does it sort of all feel the same?

Well I USED to have lumps, they are very tiny now, it just feels like a bunch of tissue in there or little lumps themself. and ive always been puffy on the lower chest. No one is responding their .02 cents so I have no idea either. im kind of stuck in a rut too....:madd:

[Titan 3]

Nips look much better in lean pics....

[SDis623]

Nips look much better in lean pics....

You think so?! I just dont understand the puff. i want it tight in the lower chest. when i flex the pecs are hard; just under the pecis where it hangs down and is all gooshy....:1laugh:

[Justarting]

Nips look much better in lean pics....

What?
Seriously I think it looks worse in the lean pic. Like props to the guy, he has a wicked build, but I think the gyno looks way more pronounced because his lower chest looks flabby and the rest of him looks ripped.

[Tbone1975]

Hello everyone this is my first time posting a pic, I am into my bulking season for now. My weight fluxes from 215-220 mostly water im assuming, I am new to this site so HELLO! Critiquing or any comments on what i could change would gladly be accepted! pics i am posting are cold :1welcome:

19 and no juice = huge. You will be huge. Keep doing whatever you're doing. I see a ton of potential in you.

[Justarting]

Are your nipples sore at all? You've had it a while no?

[IamtheChitt]

I tried letro for a little while, but my girlfriend made me quit because it absolutely killed my sex drive. I had a lump behind my nipple that felt almost like a medium size bean, which i recently had removed. Anyway, i dont think i gave the letro a fair chance, so I can't say from experience if it would work or not, but from what i've read there is a chance that it could help.

I think that it does look better with the lower body fat, but I agree that I would want a tighter looking lower chest. There was a thread about this a while back, i'll try to search and see if I can find it.

I like the way my chest looks when my nipples are hard, but when they are soft, they look puffy. I noticed a little difference when I had the lump removed, but not too much. I figured that it was a body fat issue because of that. Hopefully I will find that other thread, or maybe we can get some input from some one more knowledgeable on the subject.

[IamtheChitt]

I can't find that particular thread I was looking for, seems to be many many posts on gyno.

[SDis623]

Are your nipples sore at all? You've had it a while no?


Ive had it since 15- or 16. I remember feelign the lumps before haha not its just feels like small little ones with tissue on the lower pec.... i am 19 now no tender or soreness. just puffy

[SDis623]

19 and no juice = huge. You will be huge. Keep doing whatever you're doing. I see a ton of potential in you.

Thanks man... i really appreciate the support. once i fix this problem it will be even better!!!:scratch:

[SDis623]

I tried letro for a little while, but my girlfriend made me quit because it absolutely killed my sex drive. I had a lump behind my nipple that felt almost like a medium size bean, which i recently had removed. Anyway, i dont think i gave the letro a fair chance, so I can't say from experience if it would work or not, but from what i've read there is a chance that it could help.

I think that it does look better with the lower body fat, but I agree that I would want a tighter looking lower chest. There was a thread about this a while back, i'll try to search and see if I can find it.

I like the way my chest looks when my nipples are hard, but when they are soft, they look puffy. I noticed a little difference when I had the lump removed, but not too much. I figured that it was a body fat issue because of that. Hopefully I will find that other thread, or maybe we can get some input from some one more knowledgeable on the subject.


Im thinking letro and nolva and yes i will give it a chance :hello: I will keep reading before i make any kind of decision... I have an idea about what i will do though

[SDis623]

What?
Seriously I think it looks worse in the lean pic. Like props to the guy, he has a wicked build, but I think the gyno looks way more pronounced because his lower chest looks flabby and the rest of him looks ripped.


Agreed. It is much more noticeable... I cannot wait to fix it... if i can!? :?:

[Bradly1234]

ur back is massive for being natural.. my advice would be stiff leg deads for ur lower back and calves seem to be lacking a little compared for ur upper legs

[SDis623]

ur back is massive for being natural.. my advice would be stiff leg deads for ur lower back and calves seem to be lacking a little compared for ur upper legs

Very good advice, never really noticed the stiff leg deads.... hmmm verrry interesting !! Yeah Calves need work agreed. What would be your advice size wise on calves?:7up:

[Bradly1234]

calves tend to be that muscle that comes easy or hard, it really depends on the person. start 2x a week donkey calf raises and standing calf raises with a smith machine, use a step under your feet to get the whole range of motion.

[Bradly1234]

also high weight high reps

[SDis623]

calves tend to be that muscle that comes easy or hard, it really depends on the person. start 2x a week donkey calf raises and standing calf raises with a smith machine, use a step under your feet to get the whole range of motion.


Well have to see how that goes next leg day. thanks for the heads up on those. i guess i would say my calves are the harder ones to gain:frown:

[SDis623]

Need some recommendations, maybe someone can respond , i need some help!!!

[SDis623]

My Thread is dieing :-(

[rodgerj]

Any help on the gyno? Ive had it since I was like 14 or 15 i remember it quite well. anything i can do other than surgery?


K, I had the same problem when I was 14 or 15 and I did not know what it was. Later when I got into late teens I did the prohormone thing and made it worse. I have done a little digging on it but not tried any of my ideas as yet but I'll pass on the info.... I think there should be a puffy nipple section as lots of guys get that issue and surgery cannot be the only solution. So...

Hemroid cream: :scratch:

Check it out man, it sucks out moisture and tightens the skin. Lots of women use it as a very effective anti wrinkle. I am sure it is bound to work but not sure on the long term effectiveness.

Phosphatidylcholine: :wg:

Ever heard of lipodissolve/ ****... therapy? do some research on the compound. I have used it before on the midsection with some results but did not try injecting it into the nipple area.

HGH: :shrug:

Jin and all the other tropins are supposed to be great at reducing BF%. I have read specifically about spot reduction and wonder what the effects of injecting some into your tits might be.

UltraShape: :rolleyes:

No its not some kind of ribbed dildo with a flashing light on the end… it’s an ultrasound machine that selectively targets fat cells and breaks them down with ultrasound waves. Now that is some expensive shit. I got a quote for it a year or so ago as I like trying out these new things and researching stuff. When the lady told me how much for a consultation I nearly went down there and took a shit on the desk at reception -:1seeyah:-

Anyway…. Food for thought I guess. An issue I would love to get resolved myself and will give one of these things a try when I can.

[SDis623]

K, I had the same problem when I was 14 or 15 and I did not know what it was. Later when I got into late teens I did the prohormone thing and made it worse. I have done a little digging on it but not tried any of my ideas as yet but I'll pass on the info.... I think there should be a puffy nipple section as lots of guys get that issue and surgery cannot be the only solution. So...

Hemroid cream: :scratch:

Check it out man, it sucks out moisture and tightens the skin. Lots of women use it as a very effective anti wrinkle. I am sure it is bound to work but not sure on the long term effectiveness.

Phosphatidylcholine: :wg:

Ever heard of lipodissolve/ ****... therapy? do some research on the compound. I have used it before on the midsection with some results but did not try injecting it into the nipple area.

HGH: :shrug:

Jin and all the other tropins are supposed to be great at reducing BF%. I have read specifically about spot reduction and wonder what the effects of injecting some into your tits might be.

UltraShape: :rolleyes:

No its not some kind of ribbed dildo with a flashing light on the end… it’s an ultrasound machine that selectively targets fat cells and breaks them down with ultrasound waves. Now that is some expensive shit. I got a quote for it a year or so ago as I like trying out these new things and researching stuff. When the lady told me how much for a consultation I nearly went down there and took a shit on the desk at reception -:1seeyah:-

Anyway…. Food for thought I guess. An issue I would love to get resolved myself and will give one of these things a try when I can.

Wow that is some very useful stuff!!! i am going to look into everything you just talked. wow i have never heard of any of there.... hemroid cream??? cant you buy that anywhere???

[SDis623]

someone needs to start a thread on puffy nips or maybe theres some on puberty gyno. ill look

[lovinglife]

keep up the hard work

[SDis623]

Finally can update my picture. i have been working vigorously at my diet and training tweaking some things around a bit and here is how it is going!!

[SDis623]

as you can see... hopefuly the bloat is going to be gone forever!... critque at your will. it has been about a month since i last updated!!!

[BigGuy5420]

dude my chest does the exact same thing as yours. there are a few things that can help tighten your chest. be in the cold so your nipples are hard..............but seriously, do HIIT cardio for your upper body(ie punch a punching bag for 45 seconds then for 15 seconds go all out, then 45 about 50% then 15 sec all out. do this for 15-20 intervals about 3 times a week. Im telling you it will help lean out your chest. HIIT cardio is the only type that will actually create more ATP in your mitochondria not only creating a faster metabolism all day, but there are also studies out that it burns a higher percentage of adipose tissue in the area of exhaustion. so when you punch try to focus on using your chest muscle.

[BigGuy5420]

oh yeah and dont worry, the average person wont notice "hints of gyno" so dont get caught up about it. we are our own worst critics.

[SDis623]

dude my chest does the exact same thing as yours. there are a few things that can help tighten your chest. be in the cold so your nipples are hard..............but seriously, do HIIT cardio for your upper body(ie punch a punching bag for 45 seconds then for 15 seconds go all out, then 45 about 50% then 15 sec all out. do this for 15-20 intervals about 3 times a week. Im telling you it will help lean out your chest. HIIT cardio is the only type that will actually create more ATP in your mitochondria not only creating a faster metabolism all day, but there are also studies out that it burns a higher percentage of adipose tissue in the area of exhaustion. so when you punch try to focus on using your chest muscle.

Really??? Ive never tried an HIIT cardio before. it bothers me it is not as tight as i want it to be. maybe even once my bf keeps lowering ill take a look again at how it looks... agreed hard nips takes away the puffyness. i need to look into HIIT training

[BigGuy5420]

yea and there are other forms of upper body HIIT cardio, punching the bag is only one, if you dont have access to a bag you can do it in a pool,(hopefully one in your back yard because it might look a little weird). Or even do it on a elliptical(w/ handles) with the resistance on high and when you are going all out focus on pressing the handles away from you with your chest. just be creative and try to think about it.

[SDis623]

nice man yeah i dont have to worry about being in the cold because its already a high of ten today. ill try the eliptical when i get up to the gym. ive always been looking around to tighten my chest up. the mass is there now its just time to tighten up. im hoping with your advice plus my cut in april ill see better results this time around!

[Timm1704]

look great dude, especially for your age, great back and traps. Get better leg pics taken, they look like they are nice and thick, but the angle of the shot is bad and makes your calfs look non-existent. Find C-Binos gyno guide, somewhere in the stickys, think its the AAS forum

[Timm1704]

here you go http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

[SDis623]

look great dude, especially for your age, great back and traps. Get better leg pics taken, they look like they are nice and thick, but the angle of the shot is bad and makes your calfs look non-existent. Find C-Binos gyno guide, somewhere in the stickys, think its the AAS forum


Wow Timm that clears it up a ton. ill have to look for posts of people who have tried a reverse gyno and had success... Seeing as I have not run any anabolics yet i am also wondering will it have the same affect on pubesant gyno??? Ok let me go get you some leg pics!

[SDis623]

Still not as good as i wanted them!!! oh well tell me if they are ok

[SDis623]

Timm these are taken with a cell phone as you can tell.... looks like i need to upgrade to a webcam.... these arent doing me any justice

[Timm1704]

looking very good dude, ul be a true beast within afew years. A friend of mine used arimidex, 1mg ED for afew weeks and within days of using, his gyno (which was from AAS, and alot worse than yours) cleared right up! Obviously it will very likely come back if and when he cycles again, or if there is some kind of hormonal shift in his body, but, did the trick and we were both amazed.

As for how to treat pubesal gyno, i would imagine it would be the same way as steroid-related, as really it is exactly the same cause (higher estrogen levels)

[SDis623]

So what do you think then. Arimidex or Letro which shuts down estrogen harder 90 some almost 100% shutdown. What do you think Timm...

[perfectbeast2001]

looking good there buddy...

[SDis623]

Or anyone else have input... I dont know how many people out there have tried to get rid of puberty gyno without surgery...

[SDis623]

looking good there buddy...

Hey thanks man... do you have any good advice for me with this topic?!

[yamaha145]

like the back and traps.
good job, keep up the hard work!

[chaosmarley]

hemroid cream is also used to get fat kids into the military rub all over mid section and wrap with plastic and sleep over night and you can lose 3 inches of water

[rmcfar]

i think letro will be a bit too powerful in your case man. Shutting your estrogen off completely is not a great idea. Also letro has some pretty nasty sides.

Try what timm said and get some arimidex, its not nearly as harsh on your body.

[SDis623]

finally some input! i am 100% agreeing with you. i have been reading. if this works i will have few to thank :-) rm timm