Check my PCT plz

[Sear_Z]

k so my cycle is
Dbol wk 1-4 35mg/day
Deca wk 1-12 400mg/wk
Sus wk 1-14 500mg/wk

i was planning for pct...

hcg wk 15-17 500iu/day
nolva wk 15-20 20mg/day
clomid wk 18-20 50mg/day
i was thinking about getting letro cause i cant f*cking find aromasin (*spelling lol)
think i need the letro?
how does the rest look?

[Sear_Z]

oh yah and how long do u think for the letro?

[Sear_Z]

also ive heard mixed feelings on wether you should wait until after the test is out of the system to start or start hcg so that you finish it as the test is finsihing leaving the body.
Any help would be appreciated.

[shifty_git]

k so my cycle is
Dbol wk 1-4 35mg/day
Deca wk 1-12 400mg/wk
Sus wk 1-14 500mg/wk

i was planning for pct...

hcg wk 15-17 500iu/day
nolva wk 15-20 20mg/day Start Week 16
clomid wk 18-20 50mg/day Start Week 16
i was thinking about getting letro cause i cant f*cking find aromasin (*spelling lol)
think i need the letro? 0.25mg per day - Weeks 16 to 20
how does the rest look?


My input in bold

[Sear_Z]

thanks...looks good

[shifty_git]

well theres some who like using hcg on cycle, and some who like it in there pct..

This is a good thread to read up on it.
Thread by Merc, Text by Anthony Roberts.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331425

[Sear_Z]

yah i read up on this before...think im gonna go with post, stack with nolva to get good results...letro im a bit worried about cause ihave some bad joints... i would really like some of that aromasin

[Sear_Z]

if im worried about the letro being too strong how long should i use...would L-dex be a good alternative...even though i know it lose some effect from the nolva?

[Njord]

if im worried about the letro being too strong how long should i use...would L-dex be a good alternative...even though i know it lose some effect from the nolva?

If you need aromasin (exemestane), you can get it from ar-r.

[Sear_Z]

i looked there yesterday and couldnt find it...hmmm

[Sear_Z]

k found it now...thanks...what are peoples opinions on aromasin vs. letro?

[shifty_git]

This was posted by merc in another thread.. think it will give you the answer ya looking for..

"Keep in mind that a tpye I ai ( aromasin) , does not need to be present to continue doing it's job on the aromatase enzyme ...

A type II AI ( like letro, adex), which can be partially eliminated nolva, and it needs to be present to continue it's aromatase inhibition .. Once a type I AI does it's job, the enzyme it's attached to is useless.."

"Interactions of antioestrogens and aromatase inhibitors.

Schmid P, Possinger K

Department of Oncology and Hematology, Charite Campus Mitte, Humboldt University Berlin, Germany.

Aromatase inhibitors and antioestrogens have shown substantial activity in primary and advanced breast cancer. Since they exhibit different modes of action, attempts have been made to combine them or to use them sequentially in order to potentially increase their efficacy. In preclinical studies, combined, sequential or alternating treatments with aromatase inhibitors and antioestrogens have failed to provide higher antitumoural activity. There are relevant pharmacokinetic interactions resulting in decreased plasma concentrations of third generation aromatase inhibitors when combined with tamoxifen. Several randomised clinical trials comparing single agent and combined treatment with tamoxifen and aminoglutethimide failed to show any benefit for the combination. Early results of the adjuvant ATAC trial indicate that single agent anastrozole is superior to tamoxifen or the combination of both. Several trials are ongoing which might help to further define the role of sequential or combined treatment with aromatase inhibitors and antioestrogens. However, to date, looking at the current evidence, combined treatment with aromatase inhibitors and antioestrogens does not appear to provide additional benefit compared to single agent treatment."

[Sear_Z]

hmmmm...soooo...no letro? aromasin instead? kinda confused lol
i was trying to setup the same pct as Anthony roberts...it calls for aromasin...is that the way to go?

[Sear_Z]

or is that thread saying its pointless lol i cant tell

[mick86]

Bump for this I want to know too.

[Sear_Z]

ok i read it again and the nolva reduces the effects of the letro because it is a type II AI as where the aromasin is type I AI, and is not effected by the nolva...its not much of a concern anymore as i was able to find aromasin ...all i could find before was letro which is why i asked :P

[Sear_Z]

thanks for all the help though shifty :)

[Sear_Z]

k sorry...nother question...is the hcg really neccassary in this cycle or is the deca sus combo goingto send my balls into another dimension?