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Iwan2bsolid2
11-06-2001, 09:35 PM
I have 2 needles left so if I hit a blood vessel or vien I need another to try again so I'm not going to swtich after I pull out my sus and eq, I'll make sure to clean the stoper real good with alcohol, am I good or what?

_SOLID

atwa
11-06-2001, 09:38 PM
you dont got to but i would.........the pin may get a burr on the end of it. and hurt much more on your next injection.

bigtraps
11-06-2001, 09:39 PM
I allways use the same needle for both injection and pulling the juice. I have no choice, my pins do not have iner-changeable needles.

Iwan2bsolid2
11-06-2001, 09:41 PM
im going to give her a run...come to daddy juicceeyy wuuccciieee!

nymattyk
11-06-2001, 10:06 PM
i usually dont change the pin either. i dont think its a bad thing, it will just be a little duller than a new pin would be and may hurt a little more, but hey...shit happens. save the other one for when you really need it

gixxerboy1
11-06-2001, 10:12 PM
i never change it either.Just sometimes with amps if i hit the top alot.

bigkev
11-06-2001, 10:14 PM
yea, your good bro, inject away!!!!

PaPaPumP
11-06-2001, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by gixxerboy
i never change it either.Just sometimes with amps if i hit the top alot.


Damn it! Get control of yourself and stop shaking your hands so much. haha

gixxerboy1
11-06-2001, 10:49 PM
sorry i just get so exited i just cant control my self sometimes.

i meant hit the tip alot on the inside of the amp

TNT
11-07-2001, 12:03 AM
Many AS users will tell you thatit's a good idea to change the needle (even if it's for another needle the same size) after you fill the syringe because the needle can be dulled by the rubber stopper in the vial. However, any time you go to a doctor's office for an injection, they will generally use the same needle with which they filled the syringe.

Be that as it may, it is logical to assume that a 20 g. needle will become duller during the filling process than, say, a 25 g. needle. (For newbies: The higher the gauge, the thinner the needle.) Moreover, if you are injecting any thing that is oil based rather than water based, you'll want to use a thicker needle to draw the solution from the vial, then switch to a thinner needle to inject. Besides, why punch a large hole in your body when you can punch a smaller one?

(When I do cyp, for example, I draw it into the syringe with an 18 g. or 20 g. needle, then switch to a 22, 23, or 25 g. needle for the injection. Much depends on the site - I'm comfortable with a 22 g. 1-1/2" for a glute shot, but use a 23 g. 1" for delt shots and even a 25 g. 1" for a quad shot.)

For water-based injections )such as winnie or cyanocobalimin), you can draw and shoot with the same 25 g. needle, which will not dull as much after going through the rubber stopper as a 20 g. needle will.

In short, if you use the same 20 g. or 22 g. needle to fill and inject, it won't kill ya. But switching to a fresh needle, especially one that is thinner, for the actual injection will be more comfortable.

Iwan2bsolid2
11-07-2001, 12:46 AM
we hit a blood vesel, so we had to switch the needles, but she injects like a champ now...hahaha, gotta love that...

moms my new doc.

RON
11-07-2001, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by Iwan2bsolid2
let me just say- mom's gettin good

I know you didn't just say you mom is shootin you. That would be the shit.:D

Iwan2bsolid2
11-07-2001, 12:56 AM
my dad wont do it, but mom will hahaha.

vanjag
11-07-2001, 04:15 PM
My mom helped me shoot in the quad one time, and I know she'd shoot me if I asked. Hell, she knows all the gear and what it's used for. She goes out and buys me clomid, cause she's a woman and the lady at the pharmacy doesn't have as big of a problem selling it to a woman than to me, I guess.

YEA for moms!

sp33dg33k
11-07-2001, 04:20 PM
i change mine just because of the fact that u dull it going through the rubber stopper on the vial. so u switch the needle and u have a nice sharp one to poke yourself with.

4plates
11-07-2001, 07:01 PM
screw it it you only have two left go for it.
if you dull it too much just be harder to get in

ptbyjason
11-07-2001, 10:51 PM
I found a picture for you ealier showing the burr that is created after an injection, but I lost it. I have a picture (not a close up) of what happens to the needle after a couple of injections.

I also found a website while I was surfing that everyone might find interesting. Needle-free Injections (http://www.bioject.com/products/bio2000.html). The link is to the intramuscular one, but you can find all kinds of info about it at the homesite... www.bioject.com .

RON
11-07-2001, 11:02 PM
I bet that increases scar tissue quite a bit over time.

PaPaPumP
11-07-2001, 11:04 PM
Great post PT....lovin it.

Kraft
11-07-2001, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by vanjag
My mom helped me shoot in the quad one time, and I know she'd shoot me if I asked. Hell, she knows all the gear and what it's used for. She goes out and buys me clomid, cause she's a woman and the lady at the pharmacy doesn't have as big of a problem selling it to a woman than to me, I guess.

YEA for moms!
My mom would ****ing freak out. BUT, my wife the nurse sticks me and my boys (although reluctantly). I think that she prefers that it is done correctly instead of having a bunch of gorillas running around with syringes.

Iwan2bsolid2
11-08-2001, 02:10 AM
SOLID

jrock34
11-08-2001, 02:37 AM
nice post.....maybe someone'll pass you the ball. You got a jump hook or a turn-around jumper?

Big_Brick
12-11-2001, 08:44 AM
Do you have! to change if you hit a blood vesel?

Shredz
12-11-2001, 11:18 AM
I have always changed my pins..for some reason i use a 18g pin to draw the Juice and I inject with a 23g. Works like a charm.

And after seeing that pic that ptbyjason posted I am going to keep doing that...thanks bro.

The Iron Game
12-12-2001, 09:10 AM
You can, well I can defintely feel the difference if I change needles. If I keep it the same it is a little more difficult to push in.
Nice pics J

Rusty
12-12-2001, 09:41 AM
If the point isn't dull it's OK if you clean it well.

ptbyjason
12-17-2001, 05:39 PM
This is the Picture I was looking for originally:

CYCLEON
12-17-2001, 09:40 PM
jason - that says it ALL - wow! :eek:

Iron horse
04-09-2002, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by ptbyjason
This is the Picture I was looking for originally:

After Six Uses:
http://www.londondrugs.com/health%20news/spring_2001/images/needle_4.jpg


Iron horse know's why one injection (back in the stupid days) made him teary eyed.. :cry: :cry:

lets just say i injected at "picture 4" if it was there..

RON
04-09-2002, 08:04 PM
I was just tellin a bro about those pics today. He uses the fourth one too. You just saved me lookin this up thanks bro.

Sicilian30
04-09-2002, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by sk*
my syranges are the one time use ones (not glass) and if i was to take out the needle out and switch it i would get a lot of air in it
then i would lost some juice trying to get the air out

any suggestions? i am a newbie so i may be doing something wrong

any help would be appreciated, for now i just use the same needle and it takes a while to go through my ass
Okay SK, I am confused. what exactly do you mean? I think I understand and I will try to answer, but again, your question is kinda confusing.
Okay if you are switching pins, after you pull your gear in, hold the needle down (I assume you are doing amps instead of vials).
When you hold the needle down, your air pocket will be at the top of your gear. Draw back on the plunger real slow not to hard or you will find your gear all over the place. This will draw the gear into the tube itself and out of the needle. (now this will increase the air pocket, but it will get all of the gear out of the needle when you get ready to change it. You will loose some, but not that much if you do it this way.
Turn the needle upside down, to make the air pocket be closer to the needle. Change out your pin. the next step is to get that air pocket and air bubbles out of your gear.
Hold the needle upside down, then start SLOWLY pushing the air pocket. If you go slow enough and do it right, you will hardly loose any gear. Also with a little practice, you will be able to push the air pocket all the way up and out of the needle without spilling one drop of gear. Good luck, hope this answers your question, and sorry for being soo long.

rangerdudeleads
04-09-2002, 10:25 PM
Im gonna use same stringe 25 gauge 1 1/2 inch but kind of scared to use same needle after i saw those picks jason put up.Man after that 6th time that syringe looks alwful.

$tee1e0
04-12-2002, 12:47 AM
i use the same pin to extract the gear and to put it in me ....
yeah it might dull the needle a bit and it might feel a little uncomfortable .........

DOES ANY ONE NEED A STRAW?

SUCKED IT UP!

ripped4fsu
04-14-2002, 11:37 AM
My buddies wife sticks me (shes RN) and the little Sadist enjoys it!! :eekbig:

ada152
05-21-2002, 08:53 AM
is it safe to mix deca and sustenon 250 in the same syringe and inject it at the same time. all in one go?

Sicilian30
05-21-2002, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by ada152
is it safe to mix deca and sustenon 250 in the same syringe and inject it at the same time. all in one go?
actually there are alot of guys that do this to cut down on some of the soreness that you get from Sustanon. So yes, you can. I would not recommend this for a beginner, but it can be done, with no problems. Just take your time injecting and inject slow.

diesel21
07-01-2002, 12:15 AM
i used to use the same one.. now i extract with 22 and shot with 23 and 25's...(my mom would kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Doobie Wah
11-16-2003, 04:57 PM
i used to use the same one.. now i extract with 22 and shot with 23 and 25's...(my mom would kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
are 25's (for injection) only used in the thigh?
will they work for fina, test & nand dec?
Read where you use 1's in the delts and thighs and 1 1/2's for rear, typically. Is this a good general guideline?
thanks

sheltonn
05-09-2006, 04:41 PM
Now you tell me. A friend and I started as newbs together. We discovered this the hard way. Also, you will be surprised how much pressure you need to penetrate an ass after it's been dulled by the cap. The first time I poked him, it didn't go in. He said it went in and I pulled it out. My wife did me that day.

The next week he did me and didn't penetrate. ROFL. Bastid. He's in school to be a nurse. He better pass that on the first pass after he perfected his technique on me.

BTW, it's not good to say "this is going to be my first time" just before you stick someone. I chickened out after that comment.

Bobbarker
01-14-2008, 04:21 PM
Who uses the needle six times???? Just make sure you stick it in fast, firm and straight.

Big
01-14-2008, 06:37 PM
Who uses the needle six times???? Just make sure you stick it in fast, firm and straight.
you do know this thread is from 2001, right?

Bobbarker
01-14-2008, 09:15 PM
Yeah, noticed that fact after I posted. But people might still read it. (e.g. your comment.)

pump.joe
01-24-2008, 08:24 PM
Yeah, noticed that fact after I posted. But people might still read it. (e.g. your comment.)

Yeah, I'm glad you bumped it, or I would have never seen it. Good info.

meathead320
01-26-2008, 12:21 PM
Ohh come on! Just buy more needles. They are cheap. I know there is a link to the pins here somewhere if I can find it. There is one for syringes too. I just forget where the links are.. Damn!

George
01-26-2008, 12:40 PM
.. buy a .06$ pin or... save that 6 cents and chance infection?
FVCK IT.. i can buy a candybar if i for go 15pins!~

pump.joe
01-26-2008, 04:49 PM
lol Tai :lol: Why not go for 30 pins for the big mac?

D-Unit 39
03-05-2008, 04:48 PM
Silly question... do you want to bottom out the needle? (Stick it all the way in) or leave a little bit still sticking out before you get to the bottom of the syringe?

I assume thats why you have different length needles so you can just "poke" it in with one quick motion and not worry about how far it goes?

intensityfreak
03-08-2008, 02:55 AM
i used one needle to draw it out all through my cycle, i think it was like a 30gauge it was huge, made the juice come out better. then i would switch back to the normal size witch i threw away after every use.

ReggyD
03-08-2008, 04:53 PM
I used to switch needles everytime. Then I decided to use the same pin that I sucked it with...and noticed absolutely no difference. Lot faster, and cheaper to use the same one.

I will replace the pin if I hit the side of the vial though.

binder
05-25-2008, 11:33 AM
I found a picture for you ealier showing the burr that is created after an injection, but I lost it. I have a picture (not a close up) of what happens to the needle after a couple of injections.

I also found a website while I was surfing that everyone might find interesting. Needle-free Injections (http://www.bioject.com/products/bio2000.html). The link is to the intramuscular one, but you can find all kinds of info about it at the homesite... www.bioject.com .

holy crap! what did they inject that needle into, the bone?!? lol

XD40
05-25-2008, 11:51 AM
I use two pins always just to avoid burs...but my wife is a RN so i have no problem with the injections lol !

bernimx
08-06-2008, 11:29 PM
Silly question... do you want to bottom out the needle? (Stick it all the way in) or leave a little bit still sticking out before you get to the bottom of the syringe?

I assume thats why you have different length needles so you can just "poke" it in with one quick motion and not worry about how far it goes?

i'm curious also since I have never injected so far.

bump

binder
08-07-2008, 12:28 PM
i'm curious also since I have never injected so far.

bump

no, you always want to be able to see just a tiny bit of the needle. i would never go all the way to the plastic.

and ppl, please stop saying "suck out the juice". it's called DRAWING UP. you draw up a medication in a syringe.

also, to the guy that used the same pin to draw for a full cycle...what do you think grows on that pin when it sits in your medicine cabinet? THAT is dangerous. Now drawing up and then injecting with the same needle isn't going to introduce bacteria because your solution is sterile and you should have sterilized the top so it's all good.

Anyone ever had a nurse change out a needle after she draws up an injection? In our office we don't. The only times needles are ever used to just draw is if it's not going into a patient and then we use 18g to draw it up and then inject it into a piggyback or something like that.

BLWNBYU
09-09-2008, 01:16 AM
Okay SK, I am confused. what exactly do you mean? I think I understand and I will try to answer, but again, your question is kinda confusing.
Okay if you are switching pins, after you pull your gear in, hold the needle down (I assume you are doing amps instead of vials).
When you hold the needle down, your air pocket will be at the top of your gear. Draw back on the plunger real slow not to hard or you will find your gear all over the place. This will draw the gear into the tube itself and out of the needle. (now this will increase the air pocket, but it will get all of the gear out of the needle when you get ready to change it. You will loose some, but not that much if you do it this way.
Turn the needle upside down, to make the air pocket be closer to the needle. Change out your pin. the next step is to get that air pocket and air bubbles out of your gear.
Hold the needle upside down, then start SLOWLY pushing the air pocket. If you go slow enough and do it right, you will hardly loose any gear. Also with a little practice, you will be able to push the air pocket all the way up and out of the needle without spilling one drop of gear. Good luck, hope this answers your question, and sorry for being soo long.

EXCELLENT POST.. My new g/f is a nurse, but I don't think I want her to know that I'm taking aas..

Ironside
11-30-2008, 04:26 PM
agree good bump, I just pulled out of 2 vials with my last needle and was thinking of reusing, now I'm gonna go to walgreens and get more needles