What PCT did you use?

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There seams to be a couple thoughts on what you should do for PCT? A couple of them are stickies.

The peeps that have already done their cycle in the last couple years, what did you do for a PCT and how did it work for you? I would like to hear from peeps with NO pct, Clomid only, Nolva only and a combine of all or other. Thanks!!

[shifty_git]

Whats ya cycle ganna be?

Pheedno's works well for most cycles that don't include reasonable doses of a 19nor.

Anthony Roberts seems to work best if you do have 19nors in ya cycle.

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*shifty - I've read both of them, just guessing there are a few that did a PCT before those postings. Just would like to hear what and how it went.

What where the results of running something like a Nolva everyday at the start of the cycle?

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*shifty - I've read both of them, just guessing there are a few that did a PCT before those postings. Just would like to hear what and how it went.

What where the results of running something like a Nolva everyday at the start of the cycle?

Well there's much more research (i say that, more unofficial research as governments refuse to spend $$ on official research) on the subject of PCT and steroid cycles in general these days.

Each compound used in PCT has unique qualities (as stated in those above threads) which then makes sense to use them together to support HPTA.

Old skool methods such as no PCT or a basic clomid PCT are seen as old hat as many people have had bloodwork done afterwards (which is a more modern thing) and even though some levels have returned to normal ranges others haven't.
And you need a proper balance of all levels for normal functioning.

Using nolva on cycle does work to lower the amount of estro that is absorbed by the receptors by blocking it, but it doesnt stop the aromatization of the test in the first place. So therefore obviously some test has been wasted and free estro will be higher.

Which is why it makes sense to stop that aromatization in the first place by using an AI instead. (higher free test, lower free estro)

Nolva used while on a cycle including a 19nor (deca and tren) can actually cause gyno due to the nolva making the PgR receptors more sensitive to Progesterone and progestins (19nor being progestins) so it is advised to stay away from SERMS while on such cycles.

Keep an eye out for threads saying 'why did i loose all my gains?' and you will notice that in most cases there PCT wasn't sufficient.

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*shifty - thanks for the response.