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Growler
09-28-2008, 11:28 AM
After a 25 year absence on the National Masters scene I'm yet again staging a come back to competition. Problem is that I have a very high red blood cell count, benign prostate the size of New Jersey and 10 years remission from Salviary gland cancer. I currently take Androgel and an over the counter anti estrogen compound.

Am I insane to use gear again? I always used Test Cyp/Decca for bulking in the past and Primobolin Acetate/Equipoise/Winstrol V during last 3 months prior to the stage. In those days gear was legal. The idea of bathtub brews scare the crap outta me. Any dialed in senior men out there with an understanding applicable to my situation?

Thank you,
Growler

Growler
09-30-2008, 08:33 AM
Apparantly I am in the wrong forum. I was hoping to catch a few truly old (70 and over) coggers lurking in here.

Kale
09-30-2008, 08:49 AM
Have you had a PSA test done recently ? Also you will need a Testosterone and Estradiol test done as well. At your age you should go for the full blood work up before you embark on anything. I am 53 by the way :-)

2bshredded
09-30-2008, 09:27 AM
Apparantly I am in the wrong forum. I was hoping to catch a few truly old (70 and over) coggers lurking in here.

This over 40 forum does not get much attention.....sorry to say. I do remeber there was a guy not too long ago that was roughly your age, I'll see if I can find that thread and copy and post for you.....maybe you could PM to get his attention....

PS........sorry, I'm just a young 48!!

JiGGaMaN
10-01-2008, 01:14 AM
Have you had a PSA test done recently ? Also you will need a Testosterone and Estradiol test done as well. At your age you should go for the full blood work up before you embark on anything. I am 53 by the way :-)

If hes on HRT the Test and estradiol has already been tested.

Growler
10-01-2008, 09:12 AM
Thanx...entertaining avitars. PSA 1.1 and test/estroidols checked yearly. 209/65 prior to AndroGel/anti estrogen and 1000/45 since. My younger brother is a retired Internist/Cardiologist and keeps his eye on me. Back when the Oakland Raiders became the Los Angeles Raiders he was one of the team docs and delt with effects of gear. He is hip 1980s wise.

2bshredded
10-01-2008, 03:31 PM
Stick around you'll see a lot more entertaining avatars than these.....LOL

I looked for that older guy's thread and came up with nothing, good luck with everything!

Madeira Jon
10-02-2008, 10:23 AM
Hi, I'm also 70, and my last cycle was anavar. AT our age we have to be careful about that damn prostate and our liver. I've had a prostate biopsy to be on the safe side but to be hobest I also take Finasteride to try and keep it down. At the moment Im doing an ECA stack using Dynalyne which at the moment is still leg in UK. I put on 10 pounds while on anavar which included some fat around the waist which I want to get rid of.
Stats are weight 219 pounds (aim 210 pounds)
Height 5 feet 7
Chest 46 inch
waist 39 inch
Biceps 15 inch
This was taken before I did the anavar cycle.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/Madeira-Jon/one_test.jpg

2bshredded
10-02-2008, 10:47 AM
Ha.........thats the dude I was talking about!!! Looking good buddy!

Madeira Jon
10-02-2008, 01:00 PM
Thanks 2bshredded I'm doing the ECA to try and get rid of the "lurv handles" :lol:

2bshredded
10-02-2008, 01:31 PM
Thanks 2bshredded I'm doing the ECA to try and get rid of the "lurv handles" :lol:


I'm using HGH, there a bitch....I know!

Madeira Jon
10-03-2008, 11:46 AM
I've pulled out of the ECA, the Ephadrine was driving my blood pressure crazy, its normally 125/40 and pulse 60 ish, but after 5 days on Eph I had a BP of 195/90 and pulse 95! One of the things we have to watch out for as we age as I don't want a stroke!:no:

2bshredded
10-03-2008, 03:31 PM
Wow......you must have been feeling your blood pumping. That Eph gets me going, I can't go there!

smokeyd
10-03-2008, 03:51 PM
damn Madeira Jon nice work!!!

Madeira Jon
10-03-2008, 05:52 PM
2bshredded That Eph gets me going, I can't go there!

Yep, too strong for me, and I was only taking 200mgs ED. Don't want to push it too far. I think I should warn the oldies like me about it!

2bshredded
10-03-2008, 08:33 PM
Yea, I thought that was gonna blow my blood outa my veins when I took it.

Growler
10-03-2008, 10:55 PM
Well well we did bring him out...great. Nice to have company. My irregular heartbeat will not allow anything heavier than caffeine. I always did an Atkins type of diet to get shredded in the '80s. Should still work. Where I live it is easier to find opiates than it is gear.

I forgot all about Anavar. I use to get stacks of pop out sheets from Italy with those little white pills under the aluminum foil. Once I dropped all other gear and took 5 Anavar 3 times a day. Thats' when I did my all time best squats...405x15 at age 48. Damn I miss those golden days.

Madeira Jon
10-04-2008, 09:52 AM
Hi Growler, ]Damn I miss those golden days. [/QUOTE] Yes but we can make new golden days provided we take care especially with our prostates and liver.
One of the problems with Atkins is the few carbs which it allowed. BTW 2bshredder I lost 6 pounds in the 5 days I was on Eph! Powerful stuff. Last year I went down from 266 pounds to 219 following an eating regime which a German gym instructor gave me. I Never went hungry just re-adjusted times when I ate. If anyone want a copy I'll email or PM it.

yannick35
11-14-2008, 06:15 PM
Hi Growler, [I[/I] Yes but we can make new golden days provided we take care especially with our prostates and liver.
One of the problems with Atkins is the few carbs which it allowed. BTW 2bshredder I lost 6 pounds in the 5 days I was on Eph! Powerful stuff. Last year I went down from 266 pounds to 219 following an eating regime which a German gym instructor gave me. I Never went hungry just re-adjusted times when I ate. If anyone want a copy I'll email or PM it.

Please that would be great i need to lose weight so bad thanks in advance