Am I on the right track?

[kbampa]

I have just become a member. I am a male of 41 years old (see photos). I have been training for 25 years on and off. I have been training without steroids and have been getting no results and getting really disappointed. I almost wanted to leave the best sport in the world (body building). I have spent weeks browsing and reading all the posts. I have spent months reading up and educating myself on all the different types of steroids as well as side effects over the net. That is when I decided that I am going to try steroids.

Goals
My goal is to be massive. I want to look huge in clothes. I am about 25% body fat at the moment. I don’t want to rip and define yet. I first want to gain size with not too much body fat.

Diet
I would say my diet is good. I have been eating well now for 2 months. Unfortunately my diet was not so good before.
I eat 5 to 6 times a day now:

Breakfast: Oats, wheat bix or maize meal or fruit.
Mid morning: Tin of tuna and a piece of cheese.
Lunch: A piece of steak and broccoli.
Mid Afternoon: 3 large potatoes with mayonnaise.
Pre workout: 2 Bananas.
Post workout: Game cold drink.
Supper: Steak, chicken or fish and veggies.
Before bed: Nuts or a green salad.

Training:
I work underground in a mine so I can’t train like I am supposed to. I train one muscle group a day. I train in the late afternoon at around 19:00. I do cardio (15 minutes treadmill and 15 minutes stationary cycle). Weights: 4 sets of 8 to 10 reps with 1 minutes rest in between sets and exercises.

Monday: Legs: Leg extensions, leg presses, leg curls, lunges, calves.
Tuesday: Chest: Bench press, flyes, inclines dumbbell press and pullovers.
Wednesday: Biceps: Barbell curls, concentration curls.
Triceps: tricep pushdowns, lying tricep extensions.
Thursday: Shoulders: Military press, side lateral raises, upright rows & shrugs.
Friday: Back: Deadlifts, lateral pulldowns, seated rowing.
Saturday & Sunday: rest.

Steroids
I have started using steroids. I am in my 5th week now with my first cycle.
My cycle is as follows:

Week 1 to 6: 400mgs/week Test Cyp + 20mgs/day Dianabol + 20mgs/day Nolvadex.
Week 7 to 10: 400mgs/week Sustenon + 20mgs/day Dianabol + 20mgs/day Nolvadex.
Week 11 to 12: 400mgs/week Sustenon + 20mgs/day Nolvadex.
Week 13 to 15 (PCT)

Week 13: Mon: 300mgs Clomid
Week 13: Tues: 100mgs Clomid
Week 13: Wed: 100mgs Clomid
Week 13: Thurs: 100mgs Clomid
Week 13: Fri: 100mgs Clomid
Week 13: Sat: 100mgs Clomid
Week 13: Sun: 100mgs Clomid

Week 14: Mon: 100mgs Clomid
Week 14: Tues : 100mgs Clomid
Week 14: Wed : 100mgs Clomid
Week 14: Thurs : 100mgs Clomid
Week 14: Fri : 50mgs Clomid
Week 14: Sat: 50mgs Clomid
Week 14: Sun: 50mgs Clomid

Week 15: Mon : 50mgs Clomid
Week 15: Tues : 50mgs Clomid
Week 15: Wed: 50mgs Clomid
Week 15: Thurs : 50mgs Clomid
Week 15: Fri: 50mgs Clomid
Week 15: Sat: 50mgs Clomid
Week 15: Sun: 50mgs Clomid
Is this enough for PCT? I don’t want to lose my hard earned mass.
I got this cycle from Anthony Roberts (steroids.com).

I have noticed a slight difference in size and strength. I actually thought that I was going to be a lot bigger. I am disappointed. Ok, I still have 10 weeks to go with the bulking steroids and then 3 weeks post cycle therapy.

Please take a look at my photos and give me some advice.

My question: I am already thinking about my second cycle once I have been off steroids for 15 weeks. I was thinking about Deca Durabolin with Test Cypionate and Dianabol. Then again I thought I must lose a bit of fat maybe with cutting steroids. But my main aim is to first look big in clothes.

[FireGuy1]

My advice to you would be to change your goals. You are a cheeseburger away from being obese yet you state you dont want to cut up just keep adding size so you can look massive in clothes. You are going to look 10 times bigger in clothes by just shrinking your waist by 6 inches. You also look to be gyno prone and running AAS at such a high bodyfat percentage is not helping that cause either. Your diet is a disaster, not nearly enough food to cut or bulk on. I would double or triple your cardio as well. Hope this is not coming across too harsh but you did ask for advice.

[kbampa]

Thanks for your help FireGuy. I will work on my cardio. I was scared that if I do too much cardio, I will lose size. When you say shrink my waist by 6 inches, I can do that with cardio, correct? Also I am too scared to eat too much because I am scared I get too fat. I have been eating a lot healthier though. As far as gyno, I have always had pecs that look like breasts, even before taking steroids. Do you think my next cycle must be a cutting steroid, like Anavar, Winstrol etc or must I first bulk up with Deca and cut on my third cycle. Thanks for your help FireGuy.

[FireGuy1]

You are correct, cardio is what will get rid of excess bodyfat and shrink your waist. Not eating enough food will slow down your metabolism and increase the chance losing muscle, two things you dont want. Aim for 6-7 meals a day and try and get at least 30-40 grams of protein with each meal for starters. As far as your pecs looking like breasts its hard to say if its gyno or not because of high bodyfat level. Once you get leaner you will have a much better idea of whats going on there. Last but not least there seems to be much misconceptions about "cutting" and "bulking" steroids. Yes, some do work better for one purpose or the other, but for the most part your diet and cardio will determine whether you get leaner or bulkier to a far greater extent than whether you choose deca or anavar.

[kbampa]

Thanks FireGuy. I am going to do cardio every day of the week for at lease 40 minutes at a time. Thank you for the diet advice as well as the other advice that you have given me.

[green182]

I agree with FireGuy

I would focus on trying to amp the cardio up to 45 min every other day, if not every day. Also eat WAYY more.

You will get there

[FireGuy1]

Anytime, post up some pictures so we can see the results every so often.

[kbampa]

I will do so. Thank you Green and FireGuy. I am so motivated now. I will post my pics when I have lost a bit of body fat.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Great advice from both of these guys! Cardio and diet are your new best friends. You have a solid frame to work with too...it'll come.

Good luck...keep us posted!!

[green182]

No problem man, I am tryin the more cardio more grub plan too.

Keep us posted and remember, train with INTENSITY

[DigitalRaver]

i would agree fireguy (but the cheeseburger statement). for your first cycle you should have gone with winstrol alone or winstrol+anavar. reasons being at the age of 41 lets face it energy is your enemy so thus a combo of winstrol (increases endurance) and anavar (increases growth hormone levels+ deeper sleep) would benfit you most. With these combined there is no need for pct. Once the cycle is done you can choose to keep taking anavar and after 8 weeks being a winstrol+test cycle. from the winstrol+ anavar cycle you would have lost alot of weight and gained some muscle. once you start the winstrol+test is when you get the good gains (remember to take pct with ANY testosterone). I dont know everything but i do know my fair share. i have 8 years of personal training and 6 years steroids use not to mention the bs pro-hormone scene from years ago.

[Big]

i would agree fireguy (but the cheeseburger statement). for your first cycle you should have gone with winstrol alone or winstrol+anavar. reasons being at the age of 41 lets face it energy is your enemy so thus a combo of winstrol (increases endurance) and anavar (increases growth hormone levels+ deeper sleep) would benfit you most. With these combined there is no need for pct. Once the cycle is done you can choose to keep taking anavar and after 8 weeks being a winstrol+test cycle. from the winstrol+ anavar cycle you would have lost alot of weight and gained some muscle. once you start the winstrol+test is when you get the good gains (remember to take pct with ANY testosterone). I dont know everything but i do know my fair share. i have 8 years of personal training and 6 years steroids use not to mention the bs pro-hormone scene from years ago.

there is so much bad advice in that post I'm not sure where to start.

[DigitalRaver]

there is so much bad advice in that post I'm not sure where to start.

post your thoughts then and your reason its bad. so please start. $100 i prove you wrong.

[Big]

post your thoughts then and your reason its bad. so please start. $100 i prove you wrong.

a whole $100? na bro too much for me. you do know that winny is suppressive, right? never mind what do I know.

[DigitalRaver]

suppressive to DHT yes but thats why if he continues to take Anavar after the winny cycle he will not lose anything >.< or did i not say that?

[Big]

lmfao another expert.

[DigitalRaver]

lmfao another expert.

thats all you have to say? post your facts bro, dont copy and past. i have alot of people who will differ with you. i have been reading your post, some of it is good most of it is seems only what you read or your personal experience, mine is based off personal experience and from quit a few people i have trained who were on cycles that i built for them. I dont claim to be an expert by any means but it seems you think you know everything (from what you read) i have yet to find a picture of you ( dont google for one now) given 1 cycle to get back on track from being hit by a car i bet i can beat you and your advice. Care to take the challenge? my last cycle picture is in the picture section as well (only 300mg test cyp week pics i might add)

[Big]

thats all you have to say? post your facts bro, dont copy and past. i have alot of people who will differ with you. i have been reading your post, some of it is good most of it is seems only what you read or your personal experience, mine is based off personal experience and from quit a few people i have trained who were on cycles that i built for them. I dont claim to be an expert by any means but it seems you think you know everything (from what you read) i have yet to find a picture of you ( dont google for one now) given 1 cycle to get back on track i bet i can beat you and your advice. Care to take the challenge?

my pics are in my profile. another n00b wanting to challenge me, wow how original. you look solid, stick with that. if you want other opinions than mine, start a thread proposing winny only or winny/var cycles with no pct and see how many of our almost 100,000 members agree with you. the only reason I'm the only one to question your advice is that you're new here. start the thread I propose if you want a challenge.

[DigitalRaver]

did you not see me say to CONTINUE VAR AFTER WINNY IS DONE? wow man learn2read

[Big]

i would agree fireguy (but the cheeseburger statement). for your first cycle you should have gone with winstrol alone or winstrol+anavar. reasons being at the age of 41 lets face it energy is your enemy so thus a combo of winstrol (increases endurance) and anavar (increases growth hormone levels+ deeper sleep) would benfit you most. With these combined there is no need for pct. Once the cycle is done you can choose to keep taking anavar and after 8 weeks being a winstrol+test cycle. from the winstrol+ anavar cycle you would have lost alot of weight and gained some muscle. once you start the winstrol+test is when you get the good gains (remember to take pct with ANY testosterone). I dont know everything but i do know my fair share. i have 8 years of personal training and 6 years steroids use not to mention the bs pro-hormone scene from years ago.

we've hijacked this thread far enough, post the thread I proposed and see the responses you get.

[beatango2008]

wow guys take it easy

[kbampa]

I really appreciate the help from all of you. I just want to get this right. The steroids that I bought is expensive so I want it to work. The coming week is the last shot of Testosterone Cypionate. That will be week 6 that I will complete.

Week 7 to week 10 will be my Sustenon + Dianabol + Nolvadex. I will take the advice from FireGuy and eat at least 40grams of protein 6 times a day with my other food. I will work on that.

The question that I have: If I eat like above and cardio daily for 40 minutes and do a little bit of weight training, will I still build mass? I don't want to waste the rest of the steroids that I have. Please be patient with me. I am only learning about this steroid thing now. I am turning 42 and as DigitalRaver said, energy is a problem. I feel at this age that I am not so energetic as when I was in my 30's. But I still believe that I can build an impressive body. I know I must knock the fat off.

I will eat as mentioned above. I will train with intensity as Green mentioned. I think I will do weight training on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and cardio on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday while continuing with my cycle. I have 10 weeks to go so I can give it hell. I will post another photo with my comments after week 10.

Big, I appreciate you answering my post. Thank you. I will keep you posted.

[Big]

in my opinion your number one concern should be cutting. you would look so much bigger if your bf was way lower, I think you would be surprised.

[kbampa]

Now THAT is just what I needed to hear. Thank you, Big. I have a brand new perspective on the situation and NOW I am going to focus on cardio and diet like never before.

[BIG_TRUCK]

kbampa,

Go to the doctor/Endo & have a blood test done checking your testosterone levels.

At your age your levels could be pretty low , even for a normal person.

If you eat clean and workout regularly you should be in better condition. (body fat wise)

It doesn't matter how hard/smart/long you eat clean & train if your test levels are to low. You will not gain muscle & cutting weight will be extremely difficult.

Just a thought to consider before putting in a lot of hard work , when in the end will give you poor results if you have low levels.

[konateh]

I have to agree with Big on this one, loosing fat should be your main concern right now and in order to achieve this you first have to master the basics (calories in vs. calories out).
You seem like you know what to do - that is eating healthy + physical activity.. but knowing is not enough, you have to do it and stay disciplined and consistent to see results.
Higher levels of testosterone will ofcourse help you in keeping the muscle mass you have, burning fat, energy levels, libido etc. BUT you have to be aware that it is dangerous to run high dosages at your age and weight, I would _strongly_ advise you to get an appointment with an endocrinologist and do weekly blood tests as well as measuring your blood pressure. I think that running this cycle you are planning will leave you with a bad case of gynecomastia and will eventually give you an heart attack.
If you have already decided on doing gear, why not start off doing 125 mg/week, this alone will be beneficial if you are able to change up your lifestyle and stay on a strict diet and training regime, but be pasient!

[T-MOS]

anyone notice he is wanting to do 10 weeks of Dbol??

Big, don't let DigitalRaver get to you....

we know not many would agree with his views for many reasons

[SampsonandDelilah]

Listen to Big on this one! I have followed his advice on a few topics and have yet to be led astray! Neither will you.

[T-MOS]

did you not see me say to CONTINUE VAR AFTER WINNY IS DONE? wow man learn2read

let the debate begin...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=376147

[Reed]

anyone notice he is wanting to do 10 weeks of Dbol??

Big, don't let DigitalRaver get to you....

we know not many would agree with his views for many reasons

And whats wrong with that. Will my liver fail after 4-6 weeks on a oral........


Read
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=269806&highlight=hepatoxicity

[T-MOS]

And whats wrong with that. Will my liver fail after 4-6 weeks on a oral........


Read
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=269806&highlight=hepatoxicity

not so much the liver, but yes it will be harsh.

he is already 25% bodyfat, and is going to use dbol for 10 weeks,thats alot of water retention for an almost obese person don't you think?

Just seems like overkill to an already not smart cycle, if he is using it as a kickstart what would be the reason to go beyond 6 weeks at most?

[kbampa]

Thanx for your advice, Big Truck. I am due to see a doctor soon and I will ask him about these things when I see him.

T-Mos.. you asked the other members this question: "anyone notice he is wanting to do 10 weeks of Dbol??" ... why did you ask this? Is there something I should know here?

SampsonandDelilah: thanks for the advice. I see that Big makes a lot of sense and I will always listen when he speaks.

[Reed]

your right I was just saying.........


Yeah came to us after the cycle. Test only is want this man needed IMO...... and a much better diet, training, and cardio program. I'd say we all stop worrying about the stupid cycle advice etc etc and get the real problem solvers on track.... thats his diet and training program.....

[godkilla]

And whats wrong with that. Will my liver fail after 4-6 weeks on a oral........


Read
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=269806&highlight=hepatoxicity

it will if your a parrot

[SampsonandDelilah]

your right I was just saying.........


Yeah came to us after the cycle. Test only is want this man needed IMO...... and a much better diet, training, and cardio program. I'd say we all stop worrying about the stupid cycle advice etc etc and get the real problem solvers on track.... thats his diet and training program.....

Exactly!

It'll be great watching him hit goals! I know I'm rooting for you kbampa.


If you're set on a 2nd cycle kb, stick with a single agent (test) and really focus on your diet and cardio

[Reed]

Ok cycle advice is over the end


Now lets get to helping this man.


Look at this diet first:

Breakfast: Oats, wheat bix or maize meal or fruit.
Mid morning: Tin of tuna and a piece of cheese.
Lunch: A piece of steak and broccoli.
Mid Afternoon: 3 large potatoes with mayonnaise.
Pre workout: 2 Bananas.
Post workout: Game cold drink.
Supper: Steak, chicken or fish and veggies.
Before bed: Nuts or a green salad.

I can see where he is going oh so wrong....... and why he is 25% bf. Look at all those carb only meals. No protein for breakfast or Pre/pwo and bed time needs to be better. Game cold drink???? You aren't drinking beer are you??? We need to get our physique in check first before you can enjoy such luxuries. But right now if you are drinking alcohol STOP. Its a poison and empty calories that add to the gut....

[Reed]

Now the training program could be better IMO

Monday: Legs: Leg extensions, leg presses, leg curls, lunges, calves.
Tuesday: Chest: Bench press, flyes, inclines dumbbell press and pullovers.
Wednesday: Biceps: Barbell curls, concentration curls.
Triceps: tricep pushdowns, lying tricep extensions.
Thursday: Shoulders: Military press, side lateral raises, upright rows & shrugs.
Friday: Back: Deadlifts, lateral pulldowns, seated rowing.
Saturday & Sunday: rest.

Triceps before shoulders is not a good idea. And if you are training hard I'd say implement a day off after your legs and chest day to ensure recovery. Those are two big groups you just knocked out. I'd combine biceps and triceps into one day. We could organize our program much better.


Cardio needs to be knocked out first thing in the morning when you wake up before you eat......... add in a couple nigh sessions as well. Cardio cardio, fukkin CARDIO.....

We want a quality physique. well if your serious its time to stop pvssyfooting around and get down to business. You want to look like a top level athlete well guess what you gotta train, eat, and act like one

[SampsonandDelilah]

I'm no nutrionalist, and have a very different body type (I know what works for me, but zero credentials for constructing someone else's diet). It'd be great if someone with nutrional expertise could lay out a solid diet plan for him. Phate?

[Reed]

Gonna focus in on that diet at the moment

Breakfast: Oats, wheat bix or maize meal or fruit.
Mid morning: Tin of tuna and a piece of cheese.
Lunch: A piece of steak and broccoli.
Mid Afternoon: 3 large potatoes with mayonnaise.
Pre workout: 2 Bananas.
Post workout: Game cold drink.
Supper: Steak, chicken or fish and veggies.
Before bed: Nuts or a green salad.

You need to add protein to every meal. 30-40 grams should be sufficient.... Egg whites in the morning is your best bet along with either a few whole eggs or supplement some 0mega fish oils. Mid afternoon??? No need for carbs by themselves..... Especially white potatoes and 3 of them good lord, whats that 120+ High GI carbs at once. yeah thats adding to being fat... we should add in a protein meal with a low GI carb. Red potatos or since sweet potatos are good for burning fat do that :) Same with pre and pwo workout. Add in protein there and ESPECIALLY PWO..... thats the most important time to add have protein... the main focus pwo is protein synthesis in order to become anabolic again not refilling glycogen storages...... There is never ever a need for high GI food at anytime of the day...... Even PWO it takes a couple meal to truly refill glycogen storages... doesn't happen after one meal. For your carbs the best bet would be sticking to oats, pearled barley, sweet potatoes, red potatoes, for now...

Now I can't totally do your diet for you. It would be very wise for you to set it up your self and start learning.

I think you should look here: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

Review the different diets. I think you can burn fat and build muscle if you get diet on track...... I know I know I said it.... the impossible...... burn fat build muscle oh my god!!! ;)

[kbampa]

Firstly I'd like to say that I never expected so much help from so many bodybuilders. Thank you all you guys for your help and support. Secondly, I'd like to say I have investigated the dianabol issue and Friday was already my fifth week. I have decided to stop taking dianabol (thanks to T-Mos). I will only take 400mg per week of sustanon from week 7 to 10. Question: I have read on these posts that you don't have to take Nolvadex daily; only when signs of gyno appear (sore nipples, which I do not have). Is this true or must I continue to take Nolvadex (20mg) daily?

Reed: I just want to let you know that Game colddrink is an isotonic drink but I plan to stop drinking it anyway because of the high sugar content and we all know that sucrose is poison. To answer your question about the beer. I do not drink beer or any alcohol. Thanks for the link to do further research.

Thanks again.

[SampsonandDelilah]

KB...Nolvadex should be used for PCT...along with your Clomid. Gyno may be an issue for you (or maybe not),but because of the current BF%, I think it's better to be safe then sorry. You can run armidex (available in liquid form for relatively inexpensive by clicking the red banner sponsor link located in the upper right hand corner) at .25 everyday or every other day, to prevent potential gyno side effects. Running nolva during cycle can hinder your gains.
I thinks its a good call to stop the dbol, and continue with just the sustanon. I would read up on the differences between SERMS/AI's, and PCT...that will help clarify things for you.
PCT should start 18 days after your last shot of Sustanon.
Great call on avoiding the sugar, it will only work against you. (or use it as reward for your hard work!)

I guarantee there are many guys on here rooting for you, and it'll be great to watch the changes!!

[kbampa]

Thanks SampsonandDelilah for the information and advice. I would like to know what SERMS/AI's refers to please. Do you have a link for this by any chance? I am very happy to see that there are so many people rooting for me. I don't feel alone in this anymore and I really can't wait to give you guys feedback on the results!

[SampsonandDelilah]

Thanks SampsonandDelilah for the information and advice. I would like to know what SERMS/AI's refers to please. Do you have a link for this by any chance? I am very happy to see that there are so many people rooting for me. I don't feel alone in this anymore and I really can't wait to give you guys feedback on the results!


Heres the link on AI's and SERMS

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94545

you may want to consider adding armidex during cycle and saving your nolva for PCT along with your clomid....anyone else agree?

I know how it feels being alone, going through all of this stuff, and it can be confusing some times with all of the info that is available...but luckily for both of us...these forums are here!!

[mperk]

Hey KB

You got lots of good advice already - here's my 2cents worth. I've been down a similar path as you 10 years ago and I'm 49 - so first off - getthe BF down - loose at least 20lbs this year - don't worry about looking big - as Fireguy said - you'll look huge w/ less bf. Finish your cycle and don't start another for at least a year. i did the winny cutting cycle and it didn't work magic as you read. It was shortterm and i only got results when I upped the cardio and changed the diet. (BTW - never do cardio on an empty stomach - that myth has been debunked many times now - you'll burn muscle that way, not fat.) I'd say take your $$$ and put it into a personal trainer instead of gear - 2x a week for 6 mos - you'll never recognise yourself. And do it before work when you have energy.

Good luck bro - you can do it! and it only gets harder the older u get!

[kbampa]

Hi SampsonandDelilah.
Thank you for that link on AI's and SERMS. Thank you for your advice.
I trained very hard today. I hit cardio like mad.

Hi Mperk.
I will loose 20lbs this year. I will do everything I can to do it.
Thank you for the advice.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Right on bro!!

[KatsMeow]

I agree with Big, there is a lot of bad advice on here. The guy has a lot of body fat to lose before he even touches AAS. A treadmill and a good diet is all he needs right now, no DBOL no winny and no Var!

This is not meant to be an insult what so ever, but your body fat is way to high to even consider anything right now.

[*El Diablo*]

Mooi onderbroek

[*El Diablo*]

No...but serious. . that is the mostest mooiest onderbroek/underpant in the whole lydenburg mine

[inky-e]

To the OP....IMO you need to get that weight down and drop lots of bf....you're not doing yourself any favors by juicing right now...but being that you already started and you ARE an adult...try to concentrate on high rep low weight workouts and cardio maybe 2x a day when possible....you're youger than I am so theres hope for you bro.....I would have done more research before jumping into steroids.......oh and btw....I always get a kick out of the newbs when they take on the BIG man...lol......

[kbampa]

Thanks for all your input. I am hitting cardio like never before. Btw El Diablo, after the comment on the undies, now I know where you got your name from. LOL!
I see you are from my country.

[mperk]

Hi SampsonandDelilah.
Thank you for that link on AI's and SERMS. Thank you for your advice.
I trained very hard today. I hit cardio like mad.

Hi Mperk.
I will loose 20lbs this year. I will do everything I can to do it.
Thank you for the advice.


Hey man - you can definately do it! and you'll look great - you have a really nice frame and thickness. Go man go!

[SampsonandDelilah]

Thanks for all your input. I am hitting cardio like never before. Btw El Diablo, after the comment on the undies, now I know where you got your name from. LOL!
I see you are from my country.


Hell ya KB! Glad ot hear it...keep at it bro!


Like mperk said...you have a solid frame and will look solid after some trimming!

[southmadejd]

Hi Kbampa,

Glad to see you on the site and I am even more glad that you decided to post here before you tried the AAS route.

Just a couple of things, I wont mention diet and cardio again because everybody has already told you that but I will comment on the amount of cardio you stated you were prepared to do. Honestly at your bf range I believe you should at least be doing an hour and a half of cardio a day. Break it up into two times a day if that helps you out.

Also just so you know I would say that your bf is more in the mid 30s. So you have a ways to go but I promise you can get there and your transformation will make you feel like a completely new man. I am excited for you and it is best to keep taking pictures of yourself every two weeks so you can see the differences that are happening. Good luck to you brother.

[kbampa]

Thanks Mperk that is great encouragement.
SampsonandDelilah thanks for the encouragement.
Southmadejd, yes I am hitting cardio like mad. Yes I am taking pictures of myself.
You guys are great!!!

[kbampa]

I don't always want to be the one asking the questions. I would also like to one day encourage the newbee's, but I have been reading up on Clenbuterol. This is a good fat burner. At my age (turning 42) is it a good idea? I am just scared of the heart with all the jitters and palpitations. Thanks guys!

[*El Diablo*]

Thanks for all your input. I am hitting cardio like never before. Btw El Diablo, after the comment on the undies, now I know where you got your name from. LOL!
I see you are from my country.

hahah! Yes KBampa.... Also in SA from GP....
Keep up the hard training.... it will all pay off soon.

[KatsMeow]

You will be good to go, it shouldn't take you long at all to drop some body fat before you can really start bulking up with the muscles. Good luck to you!

[j4ever41]

hi kbampa im am with big do not listen to that cycle advice you received as a matter of fact my only advice about aas is you need to hold off for awhile and stop now if you want to get checked for low test levels thats another thing. there is alot of info on this board take advantage of the diet section that is where you will strike gold,read the stickeys put together a diet and post it up folks will be more than glad to help you change it as needed you can also post up in the workout forum,you dont need aas,clen or anything else right now,once you get your diet down and stay dedicated and consistant with that and your workouts you will be suprised at the progress you have made without any of that stuff but i agree with above post and that is priority should be dropping fat at this point but in a smart manner.

[20yearsIn]

I agree with Fire for the most part. I am NOT a fan of clomid I would use nolvadex.
Dropping your bf will be much healthier in the long run
good luck.

[MonsoonIsBack]

Why would you stab yourself with a needle when you can just take a pill?

[MonsoonIsBack]

There is no use for stacking all these steroids, because once you take one medication it works unless its a placebo or something else. One steroid would be fine as longs as your test levels increase and whatever else you need to shock in order to increase protein synsthis.

[FireGuy1]

Monsoon, realize you have only been here a day but going around giving terrible and wrong advice is not a good start.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Monsoon, realize you have only been here a day but going around giving terrible and wrong advice is not a good start.


^^^^X2!

Bro...I try my hardest not to flame anyone...but you deserve it! Your advice is garbage!!! "why stick yourself with a needle when you can take a pill" are you kidding me?!?! Or my favorite is..." I was Ronnie Coleman's size when I was 17, but I decided I wanted to be a little pudgy".

I've gone back and read all 6 of your posts, and they're all whacked. Please keep your crappy advice to yourself!

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[mperk]

I don't always want to be the one asking the questions. I would also like to one day encourage the newbee's, but I have been reading up on Clenbuterol. This is a good fat burner. At my age (turning 42) is it a good idea? I am just scared of the heart with all the jitters and palpitations. Thanks guys!


Hey man - I tried the clen/T3 stack for the same reason - read all that shit about the miracle of fat melting off and found that it was not that effective. It def gave me the jitters and heart palitations. Diet was WAY more effective for me - i eventually did a CKD diet - Boring as shit but seems to burn mainly the fat. Having said that - some people love clen - I may fgive it another try as well, but don't expect a miracle - even a minor one.

Good luck bro.

[kbampa]

Hi Mperk
Thanks for that advice. I now know that I must not go and buy Clen or T3. It is also way too expensive for me. I must say that I agree with you about diet. All the above bodybuilders encouraged me to rather diet properly. I have lost 3 inches around my waist and I can feel that the fat is starting to get softer. The next step is when the fat comes off. I am hammering cardio like never before.

[mperk]

Hey man - great job! you should take some photos or some measurements so you can look back on them a year from now and feel great about what you have accomplished!

[kbampa]

I take photos and measurements every second week, but no drastic improvement.
Still going strong

[pinhead666]

keep dieting and training, you'll do fine