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powerlifter18
03-10-2009, 10:26 PM
i was consdiering buying the fallowing

volumize by bsn

dark rage by mhp

dark matter by mhp

any thoughts has anyone tried any of the above
Phate
03-10-2009, 10:30 PM
i was consdiering buying the fallowing

volumize by bsn

dark rage by mhp

dark matter by mhp

any thoughts has anyone tried any of the above

what do you want out of them?
powerlifter18
03-10-2009, 10:32 PM
volumoze in training dark rage post dark matter pre
GymHero
03-10-2009, 10:42 PM
I have been looking into dark matter, I take NO xplode pre and want to try dark matter for my post..... ne1 have any say on this
Phate
03-11-2009, 05:35 AM
i don't know, i make my own pre-workout out of bulk powders, but i'll bump it for ya
Nooomoto
03-11-2009, 11:22 AM
Volumaize by BSN sucks. Pretty worthless product by my favorite brand.
xlxBigSexyxlx
03-11-2009, 11:25 AM
i don't know, i make my own pre-workout out of bulk powders, but i'll bump it for ya

What is in your pre-workout?
m33
03-11-2009, 11:26 AM
i don't know, i make my own pre-workout out of bulk powders, but i'll bump it for ya

What do you all put in your home made bulk pre?
xlxBigSexyxlx
03-11-2009, 11:30 AM
I didn't mean to hijack OP.

But I haven't heard anything good about any of those.
Phate
03-11-2009, 06:21 PM
What is in your pre-workout?

What do you all put in your home made bulk pre?

i'm still tweeking it but right now this

10-15g glutamine
10-15g BCAAs
1-1.5g caffeinestart with 200mg, this should be more than enough for most people
3-4g beta alanine
2-3 scoops Buzz Saw(from true protein)
10g creatine monohydrate
10g leucine
5g AAKG
Reed
03-11-2009, 06:33 PM
^^^^^ How in Gods name are you takin 1-1.5 grams of caffeine????

Thats overdose

Make sure people know that... anything from 150-400mg is strong. I go on and off but pretty much stay taking just 200mg before workouts and from 2 years doing this to this day that makes me buzz :lol:

other than that maybe ditch that glutamine (save $$) and your G2G :)
Phate
03-11-2009, 06:49 PM
^^^^^ How in Gods name are you takin 1-1.5 grams of caffeine????

Thats overdose

Make sure people know that... anything from 150-400mg is strong. I go on and off but pretty much stay taking just 200mg before workouts and from 2 years doing this to this day that makes me buzz :lol:

other than that maybe ditch that glutamine (save $$) and your G2G :)

probably should have put a notation in there about that, i have a natural tolerance to almost all stimulants, i'm at a loss to explain why, as is my father who's an M.D., he says he's never seen or heard of anything like it, i''m even tolerant of most painkillers

i add the glutamine because of a study i read that mentioned something about glutamine increasing GH levels when used in pre-workout i believe, i'm gonna have to go look at it again