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mp1975
07-14-2009, 03:37 PM
Sorry guys, I am on PCT overload with all this great info. I think I have consumed 8 hours over 2 days reading.

I'm about ot start my 3rd cycle, but the first in over 5 years. I have been training extremely hard the entire period, but am tired of the natural route.

Current stats 5'9 172lb 10%BF age 34

Starting a 12 week of Test E @ 500mg/week & Deca 600mg/wk weeks 1-12.

I managed to procure some HCG which was the hard part of the PCT. I am reading very persuasive arguments on the best usage of the HCG.

Was going to run w/ Pinnacle's PCT:
"Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day "

but am contemplating running HCG last 3 weeks of the cycle after all the reading and just continuing on with teh Aromasin and Nolva as above.

My questions are:
HCG - during or after? Running all the way through is not an option

L-Dex- During cycle? Good or Bad w/ Aromasin in PCT?

Replacing Nolva w/ Clomid? I feel I am prone to gyno per my last Deca experience 7 years ago. I was reading Nolva can intensify the effect in some.

Nolva during cycle?

Thanks for the help in advance.

Swifto
07-14-2009, 03:43 PM
Sorry guys, I am on PCT overload with all this great info. I think I have consumed 8 hours over 2 days reading. My PCT is the best...I'm not biased either...he he

I'm about ot start my 3rd cycle, but the first in over 5 years. I have been training extremely hard the entire period, but am tired of the natural route.

Current stats 5'9 172lb 10%BF age 34

Starting a 12 week of Test E @ 500mg/week & Deca 600mg/wk weeks 1-12.

I managed to procure some HCG which was the hard part of the PCT. I am reading very persuasive arguments on the best usage of the HCG.

Was going to run w/ Pinnacle's PCT:
"Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day "

but am contemplating running HCG last 3 weeks of the cycle after all the reading and just continuing on with teh Aromasin and Nolva as above.

My questions are:
HCG - during or after? Running all the way through is not an option During

L-Dex- During cycle? Good or Bad w/ Aromasin in PCT? Arimidex during. No need for another AI during PCT.

Replacing Nolva w/ Clomid? I feel I am prone to gyno per my last Deca experience 7 years ago. I was reading Nolva can intensify the effect in some. Yes. It can upregulate the PgR.

I prefer low dose Clomid for PCT. Its very effective at raising endogenous T, but Tamox is also effective.

Nolva during cycle? No need if you have controlled estrogen.

Thanks for the help in advance.

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mp1975
07-14-2009, 03:49 PM
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Thanks Swifto. Aren't Aromasin and Arimidex similar and interchangeable? I wanted to try to control the lipids, as I have had issues in the past.

Swifto
07-15-2009, 11:34 AM
All AI's will effect your cholesterol. You cant avoid that I dont think.

Arimidex 0.5mg/ED or EOD or Aromasin 10mg/ED or EOD is what I have used with success.