cutting cycle

[AUb27]

iv only ever run h-drol and havoc when my main goal was strength and size and both were decent in my opinion. i am now looking for some decent strength gains but am more concerned about cutting.
5'11
187 lbs (i like that weight but would just want to convert fat to muscle)
max bench 295
squat 325
i will gladly run h-drol again but am wondering what are the other popular cutting compounds. i can get anything so im looking at winny and clen among a few others. want to stay with orals.. and a good benefit to side effects ratio. i know h-drol is fairly harsh and gave me sick results, and iv had a few friends on winny who claimed it did nothing for them. what do u guys think.

[AUb27]

must have some thoughts out there?

[Okinawa_Power]

iv only ever run h-drol and havoc when my main goal was strength and size and both were decent in my opinion. i am now looking for some decent strength gains but am more concerned about cutting.
5'11
187 lbs (i like that weight but would just want to convert fat to muscle)
max bench 295
squat 325
i will gladly run h-drol again but am wondering what are the other popular cutting compounds. i can get anything so im looking at winny and clen among a few others. want to stay with orals.. and a good benefit to side effects ratio. i know h-drol is fairly harsh and gave me sick results, and iv had a few friends on winny who claimed it did nothing for them. what do u guys think.

First off you can't convert fat into muscle. What you can do is build your current muscle up and burn away the fat that you have. I'm not the subject matter expert on cutting cycles so I really can't give you the best advice...but I will tell you that if you want to get some lean muscle and cut fat you can run Tren and Clen and that will burn fat and put on some good muscle. Just my .02

[D7M]

iv only ever run h-drol and havoc when my main goal was strength and size and both were decent in my opinion. i am now looking for some decent strength gains but am more concerned about cutting.
5'11
187 lbs (i like that weight but would just want to convert fat to muscle)
max bench 295
squat 325
i will gladly run h-drol again but am wondering what are the other popular cutting compounds. i can get anything so im looking at winny and clen among a few others. want to stay with orals.. and a good benefit to side effects ratio. i know h-drol is fairly harsh and gave me sick results, and iv had a few friends on winny who claimed it did nothing for them. what do u guys think.

what's your age? body fat?

I'm not a fan of winny only cycles.

winny won't get your ripped either. your diet and cardio will.

[AUb27]

lol i know u cant convert fat into muscle i meant that id like to gain muscle equal to the weight id be losing in fat to remain ~187. thanks for ur .02 im gona look into tren and clen. im 21 and im guessing my body fat is around 9%..? i look about the same now as i was in that pic. still cant see my bottom 2 abs tho, awful genetics.

[Bren]

how much cardio do you do? is your diet super clean? if are up on your cardio and you don't eat crap than genetics or not; you cant store fat.