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oosean
03-23-2004, 06:56 PM
I finished my 10 week cycle of test enanthate, i ran the common 500 mg a week. got great results from it, i am taking 20 mg of nolva right now to ensure no gyno even though no sine from it. and waitng another week before starting clomid therapy like i was told to do. I know two people at my gym saying different things for pct. one says just to take the hcg and nothing else(except continue taking the nolva), one say take the clomid with nolva instead of the hcg. Both body builders plus have been taking for years. I am confused on what to do. Also, is clomid a controlled substance or not, I am ordering some tonight from liquid research or *****. Is liquid clomid still good.

razor67
03-23-2004, 07:06 PM
liquids are fine.... use the clomid and nolvadex
btw, nextime have everything before you start

oosean
03-23-2004, 07:07 PM
i thought i did but i guess hcg is not the way

einstein1905
03-23-2004, 07:08 PM
I couldn't tell exactly how long it's been since your last test E shot, but at 500mg/wk, clomid should start 2 weeks from the last shot. Nolva @20mg/day + clomid + Ldex @ 0.25mg/day is very efficient. HCG can help, especially for longer cycles. Don't rely on just HCG, as it will suppress recovery.

Jjdigs74
03-23-2004, 07:14 PM
with a 10 week cycle you don;t need the HCG bro. My .02 is that HCG is more for longer run cycles or multiple AS used! HCG can be run post cycle but better run Mid cycle for best results. I would listen to einstein about this one....

oosean
03-23-2004, 07:15 PM
i thought i did but i guess hcg is not the way

razor67
03-23-2004, 07:20 PM
if running hcg after cycle start 20 days before pct is to begin and run it 14 days... leaves 6 days until pct starts...

oosean
03-23-2004, 07:31 PM
cool i took my last shot less than a week ago, i knew to take clomid 2 weeks after my last shot, but here is the problem, i dont have my clomid yet i am ordering it tonight, should i inject 1 or 2 more times if i dont get it on time. I am ordering it from *****. I thought i had everything before i started but like i said but not exactly what i needed. i will save the hcg for my next cycle of test deca 300 and winny, plus order more clomid and nolva before i start.

einstein1905
03-23-2004, 07:37 PM
cool i took my last shot less than a week ago, i knew to take clomid 2 weeks after my last shot, but here is the problem, i dont have my clomid yet i am ordering it tonight, should i inject 1 or 2 more times if i dont get it on time. I am ordering it from *****. I thought i had everything before i started but like i said but not exactly what i needed. i will save the hcg for my next cycle of test deca 300 and winny, plus order more clomid and nolva before i start.

If you order tonight, you should have it well within a week, which will keep you on schedule. If it's only been 5-6 days since your last shot, you could extend it a week or two more, but you'll be fine to wait too.

oosean
03-23-2004, 07:50 PM
preciate it man. thanks for the help