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Pheedno
04-13-2004, 11:51 AM
Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration

alexvega
10-07-2004, 12:58 PM
ok thatīs mean thatīs th end of the cycle is today , iwill start my pct 21 after , because i running sost. and nandro. thanks

shorty33
11-29-2004, 04:57 PM
Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration
Thanks for all the great PCT info, you are the man. :banana:

alexvega
12-03-2004, 08:42 AM
i maded a misktake. idindīt used hcg on cycle.
now iīm run novaldex, 40mg/day. what ccan i add to my pct, to reinforce.

wayn225
01-04-2005, 10:55 AM
It has been traditional to run clomid, but I would wait for a more educated answer.

somenewguy
01-05-2005, 06:43 PM
I ran a 20mgs of Dianabol a day for 4 weeks while running 600mg/week of deca along side for 5 weeks.

At first I wanted to go the full 5 weeks on dbol but dropped the last week becuase of too much water retention and other reasons. I was under the impression that I should start using clomid 3 weeks after my last deca injection is this still standing now that I didn't stop both drugs at the sametime?

thanks guys

seanw
01-15-2005, 07:05 AM
Thought it was time to bump this. There are a lot o questions lately about when to start PCT

mikeysauce
03-03-2005, 02:10 PM
If i am doing eq and prop for 12 weeks each and end them on the same day do i start my pct three weeks after last shot or three days??? I can not exted the time of cycle so any info will help thanks!

Thegr8One
03-05-2005, 11:57 AM
stop your eq 18 days prior to your prop and start pct 3 days after your last prop inject


If i am doing eq and prop for 12 weeks each and end them on the same day do i start my pct three weeks after last shot or three days??? I can not exted the time of cycle so any info will help thanks!

DSM4Life
03-17-2005, 12:46 AM
I am taking Omnadren 250 , knowing that it is a Testosterone Propionate i know as per list above to take , Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection , i was going to run clomid at 50 but doesnt say how long to run it for. This was a first cycle and i shot it twice a week , got 500 a week.

YounG_SluG11
03-17-2005, 02:36 AM
I am taking Omnadren 250 , knowing that it is a Testosterone Propionate i know as per list above to take , Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection , i was going to run clomid at 50 but doesnt say how long to run it for. This was a first cycle and i shot it twice a week , got 500 a week.
Go at least 100mg for a month with the clomid.

1Leader
03-18-2005, 10:30 AM
So if you are running Sust and Prop ,start PCT 3 wks after last Sust jab correct , not 3 days after last Prop jab?

DSM4Life
03-19-2005, 05:46 PM
k i will do 100mg for a month , i orginally thought that might be much for such a small amount of gear i was taking

massff
04-08-2005, 09:35 PM
OK, how about if you run:

Sus 500mg/week 1-12
Methandriol Dipropionate 40-50mg/ED Weeks 1-4 & 9-12
Nolvadex 10-20mg/ED

Is that even a decent cycle? :unsure:

seanw
04-08-2005, 09:38 PM
You need to post this question in the Steroid Forum. You also need to read this http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=1719948#post1719948

massff
04-08-2005, 09:41 PM
You need to post this question in the Steroid Forum. You also need to read this http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=1719948#post1719948

OK, will do. I'll go back to reading the Newbie Info now. ;)

G-Force
05-19-2005, 12:47 PM
how come there is no info on tren or anavar?

bigbigb
06-03-2005, 03:42 PM
i maded a misktake. idindīt used hcg on cycle.
now iīm run novaldex, 40mg/day. what ccan i add to my pct, to reinforce.
I was told to start hcg the at the last injection and inject every 5 days for no more than 3 weeks as to not stop the total production of my own gonatropin. also 2 injections 5 days apart in the middle of cycle. and take nolva the whole cycle up to 1 week post last hcg injection. Have had no prob. Kept gains and testicalsize no prob with gino or sex drive and erect.

bvanderwerff
06-05-2005, 10:02 AM
Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration



so If I'm taking sustanon and winny tabs, when should I administer? or should I continue my winny for 14 days after finishing sust, then start PCT?


anyone?

bvanderwerff
06-06-2005, 08:16 AM
no one wants to answer me!!! LOL

C_Bino
06-21-2005, 03:36 PM
If I just run M1T, how long after i finish the cycle should I start my PCT?
Thanks...

Joey2ness
06-21-2005, 08:59 PM
good info im gonna add this to my favorites

Stacker3
06-22-2005, 05:10 AM
I was told to start hcg the at the last injection and inject every 5 days for no more than 3 weeks as to not stop the total production of my own gonatropin. also 2 injections 5 days apart in the middle of cycle. and take nolva the whole cycle up to 1 week post last hcg injection. Have had no prob. Kept gains and testicalsize no prob with gino or sex drive and erect.

I have to agree with you on the running Nolva throughout! I am pretty much a newb to the boards here, but I have posted and done research with many european AAS users. Thier whole philosophy is much different that what they quote as "the american quick gain approach consisting of gross overeating packin in large anount of carbs to cram as much muscle as possible on cycles averaging 12 - 18 weeks" Sorry I can't remember which forum I remembered this quote from but anyway....

The advice I received was run your Nolva from day one of your cycle and in most cases PCT is seldom needed or used much more than a week to 2 weeks after a cycle. My readings and commnucation with overseas steroid users generally "not in all cases of course" experience little to absolutely no side effects or even crashing for that matter due to the fact that:

1 They believe that cycles should be run shorter 6-8 weeks. This allows a user to actually get more cycles in yearly but in a less harsh "progressionary growth model"

2. Therefore recovery time is much less after cycles and natural hormonal levels are placed in balance at a much quicker rate. The Nolva throughout cycles aids in this just as BigBobb noted for the simple fact that you are blocking estrogen production steadily vs trying to counteract the mass production that follows an abundance of testosterone production.

My last cycle I ran just as BigBobb, stacked Test Cyp, Human Grade stano for 8 weeks (4 at start 4 to finish) and primoject with BD primobol for 12 weeks total. I had no side effects, no loss of sex drive, and so far have kept all my gains and feel great! My cycle ended just under 4 weeks ago. So according the the chart which states 18 days to start PCT from test in a cycle, I suggest you try this approach on your next cycle and see how it works out.

Sure everyone is different, but if you don't try you'll never know and hey if it can practically eliminate side effects and you run shorter cycles but keep gains and take recover time to practically 1 week off cycle might be worth a shot. JMO

Oh... sorry if my post is a little hard to follow, I have been a workaholic and am running on 0 hours of sleep in 2 days! Bad! Bad! Bad! body builder - I know LOL

Be good!

Stacka (raised to the 3rd)

"those who follow the crowd will never be followed by a crowd" - John Maxwell

Stacker3
06-22-2005, 07:32 AM
sorry bigbigb!

Just realized I was callin ya bigbobb. WTF??? Sleep deprivation

LOL

xleatherneck13
07-20-2005, 10:39 AM
I started with 1cc of sust 250 and 1cc of test enth 250 along with 75mg of fina ED, after 5 weeks i dropped the sust and test and began EQ 400 mg/wk and staying with 75mg of Fina/ED, both for 5 more weeks... Just wondering if i needed to start PCT since i finished the sust and test, or if i should wait until the end of the entire cycle?
I would appreciate any feedback...thanks

sevenanahav
08-01-2005, 12:13 PM
hey guys, ok there is so many opinions here I'm starting to get scared?
maybe someone can give some advice based on a similar stack!
I am currently on week 3 of my cycle. it goes like this, sust@500week for 10 weeks,
oral d-bol from week 1-4@40mg/day, winny tabs@40mg/day tapering down from week
8-12(18days after last sust inj.)
I have nolva, and clomid. I have been taking milkthisle every day for the d-bol,and vit.B6 for acne, I also have about 3 weeks worth of clen. Any help here(or changes even!) would be appreciated.
I haven't started any nolva because I was told not to unless my nipples got sore, is that too late??

KCG
08-04-2005, 03:10 PM
I Used Steroids Two Years Ago.. The Stupid Thing Is I Never Heard Of Pct. I Didnt Do My Research , But In The Last Two Years I Have Had Several Problems With Sex Drive To Many Others. Recently Started Doing My Research( A Little Late) But What Is The Window For Pct? Have I Waited To Long? Do I Need To Start Taking Steroids Again And Then Finish It With The Right Pct Or What Should I Do.. Really Appreciate Any Help, Thanks.

schico28
08-12-2005, 05:11 AM
If I'm on a D-bol, Deca, And test cycle when is the proper time to start the PCT with the clomid?

mark956101957
08-16-2005, 09:54 PM
This is why everyone should be using prop at the end of their cycle ffor test. so they only have to wait 3 days before pct.

mike869b7
08-19-2005, 01:03 PM
Thanks for the info

100m champ
08-19-2005, 09:01 PM
Whats the start time for turnabol?

Papi93
09-02-2005, 02:25 PM
For fina, it's 3 days after last injection. What is fina's half-life? Couldn't find it. Thanks!

devil1
10-28-2005, 11:13 PM
great info:)

alan83
10-29-2005, 02:37 PM
hi guys,

I am gon run a cycle I've never tried before.

wk1-3
sust - 500mg per wk
deca - 200 mg per wk
dianabol - 30 mg ed

wk 3-6
testex - 750mg per wk
dianabol - 50mg ed

wk 6-9
Virormone - 300mg per wk
dianabol - 50mg ed

I am confused about times to start pct for different steroids. Is there someone who can design me a pct plan?

I'd appreciate it very much.

DreamTeam16
12-13-2005, 09:02 PM
i want to go on test 400 stacked with dbol
and im not to sure how to carry out pct
what and when to start and finish

PECS*
02-04-2006, 05:52 PM
I've found 500ius HCG 2xs week with 20mgs Nolv very sufficient for HPTA rebound. And I don't get the ****ed up Clomid sides.

prmd1471
03-03-2006, 11:07 PM
How many weeks do you usually use the HCG for? For a 2 week stretch, after your cycle?

Evolution-06
06-04-2006, 09:04 PM
Thanks for the great thread!

mastermass212
06-26-2006, 11:21 PM
ok check this out when i come off my sust 250 cycle 500mg 2 times a week can my pct be just nolvadedx and tribulus and for how long

mastermass212
06-26-2006, 11:24 PM
and how much should i take i made some massive gains and am ready to do a cutting cycle for 8 weeksand was wondering how long before i could start that also does anyone know a good cutting cycle i have anavar and winny

funnysony
06-28-2006, 05:15 AM
1 st week : monday(deca 200 mg ) thursday(testoviron 250 mg )
2 nd week : monday(deca 200 mg ) thursday(testoviron 250 mg )
3 rd week : monday(deca 200 mg ) thursday(testoviron 250 mg )
4 week : monday(deca 200 mg ) thursday(testoviron 250 mg )
5 week : monday(deca 200 mg ) thursday(testoviron 250 mg )
6 week : monday(deca 200 mg )
7 week : monday(deca 200 mg )
this is my first cycle
do u think this cycle is good and should i ran clomid after 21 dayes of my last deca ingection .thx 4 any help

STEROIDZZ
07-16-2006, 07:51 PM
I am going to run test cyp 300 mg ... 600mg E5D for 8 weeks.... should i start taking nova or what do you prefer to prevent estrogen ? and do you suggest i take it from day 1 ?

bacd2006
07-17-2006, 07:40 PM
I on week 11 of test-boldenone-winstrol cycle.
Week 1 to 9 - Bold 300mg a week
Week 3 to 9 - Test Cyp. 250mg a week
Week 8 to 11 - Winstrol 50mg EOD

Will I need HCG in the last week of cycle (12)?

jgrecbets
07-20-2006, 08:16 PM
hello I am new to this forum and and i just finished my first cycle of deca. I took it with a friend of mine who was guiding me through the cycle since he was experienced and along with the deca, he gave me a sheet of pills for post cycle. He told me he would tell me how to take it once we were done with the cycle however we are now not talking since I beat the shit outta him. Now im screwed cause idk how to take it... it's only been 2 weeks since the last injection and I have the pills in my posession... just dont know how how many to take/how often, etc...

Papi93
07-20-2006, 08:19 PM
hello I am new to this forum and and i just finished my first cycle of deca. I took it with a friend of mine who was guiding me through the cycle since he was experienced and along with the deca, he gave me a sheet of pills for post cycle. He told me he would tell me how to take it once we were done with the cycle however we are now not talking since I beat the shit outta him. Now im screwed cause idk how to take it... it's only been 2 weeks since the last injection and I have the pills in my posession... just dont know how how many to take/how often, etc...

Are the pills clomid or nolva?

clandestine
07-23-2006, 08:12 AM
Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration


what about after enantat qv 250?

Kale
07-23-2006, 08:24 AM
what about after enantat qv 250?
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection

alltherage
08-06-2006, 08:56 PM
Ok this is the first question I've ever had to ask, this board seems to be flooded over and over with the same questions, no one bothers to look it seems. My question is I'm doing npp (nadrolene phenl propionate) and I'm wondering if it's still 21 days after last injection. It doesn't make sense because there are 3 different forms of nandrolene now, and like test I'm sure they probably all have different start times, or it would make sense at least becuase test has different times for all it's different forms, so I assume npp would be quicker than 21 days after last injection, but I don't know how much shorter. Please let me know, I'm almost in my second week past the last npp inject, I have everything for pct. :scratch:

antvel
08-24-2006, 07:03 AM
hi
i was runing 2 vials of primo + 1 vial of susta every week for 4 months now i'm also taking 50mg of proviron everyday from when i started the cycle now i'm going off cycle for a month should ill start pct with nolva and continue taking proviron immideatly?

Mista Massive
11-03-2006, 06:47 PM
does it make a difference in gains if say with enanthate, you inject 200mgs every 3.5 days as appose to 400mgs once every 7 days?????

Kale
11-03-2006, 07:06 PM
Dude you wont get your question answered here. Go here http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2 click on New Thread and start a thread and ask your question there. Welcome to the board by the way

hooh8r
12-13-2006, 01:31 PM
If I was going to take
50 mil of tren ed for 6weeks
50 mil prop ed for 6 weeks
50 mil winny ed tabs for 6 weeks
25 mil t-bol ed for first 2 weeks
What kind of AI should I use during the cycle and what should my total PCT look like?

Apex
12-17-2006, 02:26 AM
Good Info!

hooh8r
12-20-2006, 11:07 PM
Anybody?? Thanks.

Kavanaugh
12-31-2006, 03:57 PM
I'm gonna run an 8 week stack of Test-E, Dianabol & Deca when should I start my PCT and would clomid & nolva be good to use.

Kale
12-31-2006, 04:00 PM
I'm gonna run an 8 week stack of Test-E, Dianabol & Deca when should I start my PCT and would clomid & nolva be good to use.
Ask this question in the PCT forum it wont be answered here.

Kavanaugh
12-31-2006, 04:17 PM
Sorry, I just saw other people asking the same questions and thought, I should ask it here. I have now posted it in the proper forum.

vuff mags
03-11-2007, 07:15 PM
great info man thanx

kinloch75
03-26-2007, 04:39 PM
hi im using 1ml =250mg of sust once a week and 2ml =200mg of deca a week and its a 10 week cycle how many days do i need to wait before pct is it 18 or 21

Johnnystick77
03-31-2007, 08:26 AM
How about andropen????

x_moe
03-31-2007, 01:42 PM
How about andropen????

14 days i think

Jon0489
05-02-2007, 02:43 PM
why do you get gyno when you come off steroids, it is kinda the opposite of whatd u think right?

1006
05-08-2007, 09:13 AM
I have Test Cyp for 10 weeks, and i have my HCG.. whens best to start Nolva? with the first shot of hcg? before after?

Thanks!

x_moe
05-09-2007, 12:20 AM
I have Test Cyp for 10 weeks, and i have my HCG.. whens best to start Nolva? with the first shot of hcg? before after?

Thanks!

you can start nolva and hcg together, but run nolva two more weeks after your last hcg shot.

Dicktricky
05-23-2007, 10:54 AM
Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is ***endant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan ***ot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration

I am going to run my first cycle of Test E and I was curious how much Clomid I need to take for post cycle? 100mg, and is it just one time 14 days after my last injection? Also, I am a newbie, where can I find Clomid? Should I go back to the guy where I got my test?

the fly
06-13-2007, 08:51 PM
Just finished this
12 weeks
week 1-12 Test Cyp 200 MG 2x week
During Test week 1-4 Dbol 30mg everyday
During Test week 8-12 winstrol 50mg every day.

I ran Nolvadex 10 mg ed for 1 week, then ill do 20 mg ed for 2 weeks. That’s my plan for PCT on the Above is that ok? PLEASE suggest a decent minimal PCT if just Nolvadex isn’t ok.

NOW I want to start this masteron cycle ASAP

8 - 10 week cycle
During week 1- 8 or 10 test Cyp 200 MG 2x a week
During week 1- 8 or 10 Masteron 100mg EOD
Winny 25 or 50 mgs every day? or every other day?

I’m 5' 8.5”, 182LBS age 33 male.

When can I start the masteron and any tips on the cycle????

Suggestions for PCT on this cycle too?

I get confused because PCT is defined as Post Cycle Therapy but really seems to take place during the cycle also.
Another confusing point is that it is said to start PCT 18 days after last inject of test cyp and 24 hours after last winstrol admin.
So if I end them both at the same time, then when does PCT start?
Do you go with the furthest out date because you still have steroids in your system?

Please advise on all above.

njkode
07-24-2007, 12:38 AM
I am running
tren 50 Ed
Prop 200 wk
cyp 600 wk
winny 100 ed

Based on recommendations there many different start times. Which is the best for me to go with

x_moe
07-24-2007, 01:09 AM
I am running
tren 50 Ed
Prop 200 wk
cyp 600 wk
winny 100 ed

Based on recommendations there many different start times. Which is the best for me to go with

well how long are you running each for

njkode
07-24-2007, 10:07 PM
well how long are you running each for
Cyp wks 1-12
prop wks 1-12
Tren wks 7-12
winny wks 7-12

I also ran deca 550 wks 1-6 but could not get another vial that when I started tren

x_moe
07-24-2007, 10:25 PM
Cyp wks 1-12
prop wks 1-12
Tren wks 7-12
winny wks 7-12

I also ran deca 550 wks 1-6 but could not get another vial that when I started tren


i really dont know why your running two kinds of test in the same cycle, anyway your test cyp has the longest ester and its half life is 18 days, so pct starts 18 days from the last day of your cycle.

BOUNCER 01
07-29-2007, 12:59 PM
What about tren e? Do we start our pct 14 days after last injection like test e?...or is it different?

x_moe
07-29-2007, 02:13 PM
What about tren e? Do we start our pct 14 days after last injection like test e?...or is it different?

yes they have the same ester

BOUNCER 01
07-30-2007, 08:49 AM
yes they have the same ester
Thought so, but thanks for the conformation anyways.

jon77
08-20-2007, 08:07 AM
^ttt^

tinytower
09-07-2007, 11:57 PM
i'm taking D-bol and Sust so what date do i follow...the 24hrs or the 18days?

Clomid is the right thing to use for my PCT????

I'm stopping the D-bols 6 weeks before i'm done the Sust..

Advice???

Big_guy17
11-18-2007, 09:09 PM
Hey guys! Im planning on doing Sust 250!

First 2 weeks: 500mg Once a week

Rest of Cycle: 250mg once a week

NEEDING A PCT FOR THIS! PLEASE..

winstroldep
12-10-2007, 03:26 AM
wery interisting post)

DSM4Life
12-10-2007, 05:11 AM
wery interisting post)

You bumped this old @$$ thread for that :scratch:

winstroldep
12-14-2007, 09:00 AM
heh)))

RANA
12-20-2007, 11:02 PM
Bumb

RANA
02-13-2008, 08:13 PM
Bump

Njord
02-13-2008, 08:26 PM
Bump

You're bumping a stickie? That's kinda funny.

RANA
02-13-2008, 08:29 PM
You're bumping a stickie? That's kinda funny.

Funny like a clown or funny like Chris Farley?

Njord
02-13-2008, 09:27 PM
More like the Chris Farley variety.

shifty_git
02-13-2008, 09:58 PM
Bump

More like the Chris Farley variety.

you post whores! :aaGreen22

jbonez19
03-05-2008, 06:14 AM
thanks Pheedno!

Big
03-05-2008, 08:14 PM
Bump^

roy26
04-10-2008, 02:22 PM
great info

supermanluis
04-16-2008, 08:32 AM
Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 dook ays after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration

I really dont understand this but i am very interested in knowing how i started on sunday evening a cycle on propionate and parabolan each bottle has 100mg i took 10 mg of each on the same day what sholud i do and how should i keep using them.

please help.

herby
04-21-2008, 08:06 AM
hay iv just started a cycle of duo-thate 250 any times of when pct should be applied?

Lemonada8
04-21-2008, 09:22 AM
what 2 hormones are there in duothate? like test e? test c?

Kale
04-21-2008, 09:54 AM
what 2 hormones are there in duothate? like test e? test c?

this is actually a blend of 100mg tren enanthate / 150mg test enanthate per ml

Lemonada8
04-21-2008, 09:59 AM
oh ok, i had no idea thats hwy i asked :S
i'd go a/ 14 days after...

crackcop
05-20-2008, 08:52 PM
I am taking the above gear. Any PCT info on this stuff

Big
05-20-2008, 09:02 PM
I am taking the above gear. Any PCT info on this stuff

wow bro, you get around. I answered your pm.

bladerunner9
05-26-2008, 10:02 PM
ok .. so many cycles and one brain got confused a bit.
My friend is doing cycle of
Deca 500mg and Test E 500mg.
He is going to do this PCT :-
Week 1-4 Nolvadex 20mg /ED
Week 1-3 HCG 1000iu/ 2 times a week

Will this be fine.

JAY_WD
05-26-2008, 10:51 PM
Going to run prop tren and mast.

i know for the prop and tren its 3 days after last administration, but what about the masteron??

anyone??

JrSantos
05-28-2008, 10:48 PM
looking for a winstrol only cycle for 6 weeks.Im 21 6"1..weight 210 45% body fat.going to gym for like 2 years.need help..Im buying the Inject wintrol.but dont know how much to get!

ojuice
05-28-2008, 11:22 PM
hey im runnin fina and enth right now so how would i do my pct, i have clomid and nolva
thanks

JAY_WD
05-29-2008, 12:27 AM
hey im runnin fina and enth right now so how would i do my pct, i have clomid and nolva
thanks

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=255196

floridaboy07
06-15-2008, 07:29 PM
what about taking test E and test P together... when would PCT come in effect? Curious on how that would work..

Kufr
06-26-2008, 07:09 AM
Hi all im new here ... have been working out since a few yrs but am constant since a year now ...

the thing is my instructor has advised me to start using roids .... i got some info off a friend & he told me to start taking 2ml decca & 2ml suss once (mixed in a single injection as both are oil based) every week for 12 weeks .... no one ever told me about PCT .. so here i was just getting some info online until i saw this forum and joined it ...

have read much but still there is way too much to read ... i would be really grateful if someone here can guide me a bit

in the first post of this thread it says Deca: 21 days after last injection & Sustanon: 18 days after last injection

1) is the 2 ml dose of each decca and sust ok for 12 weeks
2) how shud i go on about my PCT ? 21 days after my cycle as i'll be taking both suss and decca
3) I was also advised to use Fat burners like CLEMBUTTROL or megaa ripp are they any good would they effect or hinder with anything while am on steroids

My height is 5"8 inches ... i weigh around 74 kgs ... for diet im eating a high protein diet like 8 egg whites, oatmeal for breakfast, 5-6 meals a day after 3 hours each, loads of veggies, meat, whey protein & protein shakes, sea food on alternate days ...

thanks in advance

mikedeuce
08-27-2008, 01:33 PM
Need help with PCT.

gonna do 10 weeks of each. 400 per week of each. what is the proper PCT and when do I start. have clomid, and novadex. do i need HCG too?

The_crippler
09-07-2008, 01:50 PM
24 hours for dianabol!? have i missed something? dianabol active life is 6-8 hours. so how coem pct start time is 24 hours after??

islandboy
09-09-2008, 09:27 PM
I am just finishing up 10 weeks of test and deca, what should I take for post cycle....

lew00029478
09-24-2008, 12:51 PM
Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration

Hi, ive just startted my 1st ever cycle and im using sust only at 500mg/ml per week with two injections (friday and mondays). So are you sayign that i dont need to take ANYTHING DURING my 10 week cycle?

If im to start 18 days AFTER my last ijection (at week 10) how much CLOMID would you reccomend and for how long ?

Sorry but im a bit confused and appreaciate help from peopel who know :)

Big
09-24-2008, 01:13 PM
Hi, ive just startted my 1st ever cycle and im using sust only at 500mg/ml per week with two injections (friday and mondays). So are you sayign that i dont need to take ANYTHING DURING my 10 week cycle?

If im to start 18 days AFTER my last ijection (at week 10) how much CLOMID would you reccomend and for how long ?

Sorry but im a bit confused and appreaciate help from peopel who know :)

this thread was intended to be a general guide as to when pct should start with different compounds, not a guide as to what else you should take on cycle. those are 2 very separate issues.

dog1
10-03-2008, 10:08 PM
I'm running test cyp for 12weeks and my pct is nolva and clomid. I know u start pct 18 days after last injection. My question is for how long should I run pct and what dosages?

Big
10-03-2008, 10:14 PM
I'm running test cyp for 12weeks and my pct is nolva and clomid. I know u start pct 18 days after last injection. My question is for how long should I run pct and what dosages?

there are many threads at the top of the pct section detailing all of that, the purpose of this thread (as already stated) is to help with pct start times.

musclespawn
10-23-2008, 12:58 PM
I am more confused about when to start since ther are some info about starting it early when one notices fat in the nipples or becoming to bloated or stuff.. I think with Nolva u can start his as soon as you se some bad saide effects with high estro levels symptoms showing up in your body..
just my observation though..

Sta11ion
11-14-2008, 05:24 PM
There are to many different options when to start and what to take, it would be nice to delete whats not necessary and just have one read post

gtbees05
11-18-2008, 07:12 AM
I am a newbie. Finishing first cycle ever, 400mg/wk. of Test Prop for 12 weeks. I see you say I should start PCT 3 days after last injection. Is 100mg of Clomid/day for one week followed by 50mg of Clomid/day for one more week sufficient?

Also, do I need to finish PCT prior to starting second cycle or can they run concurrent. Second cycle is 400mg/week of Test Cyp and 40mg/day of Dbol.

Thanks for your help.

LATS60
11-18-2008, 09:51 AM
I am a newbie. Finishing first cycle ever, 400mg/wk. of Test Prop for 12 weeks. I see you say I should start PCT 3 days after last injection. Is 100mg of Clomid/day for one week followed by 50mg of Clomid/day for one more week sufficient?

Also, do I need to finish PCT prior to starting second cycle or can they run concurrent. Second cycle is 400mg/week of Test Cyp and 40mg/day of Dbol.

Thanks for your help.

Nolva. 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Then wait 12 wks and you'll be ready for your next cycle.

gtbees05
11-19-2008, 01:57 PM
Sorry to be a pest. So, is that 40mg Nolva for one week and then 20mg for 3weeks and 100mg of Clomid for 1 week and 50mg for 3 weeks?

jelly
11-19-2008, 09:47 PM
It says 14 days after last Test E injection. I want to start my PCT 7 days after last TestE inj.

Anyone see any problems with this? I figured the sooner I start the PCT, the more effective it would be at retaining my gains and shock****ing my nads into gear. I would also take some DHEA with my PCT to help with some of the catabolic effects of coming off the test.

Big
11-19-2008, 09:50 PM
It says 14 days after last Test E injection. I want to start my PCT 7 days after last TestE inj.

Anyone see any problems with this? I figured the sooner I start the PCT, the more effective it would be at retaining my gains and shock****ing my nads into gear. I would also take some DHEA with my PCT to help with some of the catabolic effects of coming off the test.

the reason for the wait is to allow the suppressive compounds to clear your system before stimulating your natural test production. you can not stimulate production while being suppressed, if suppressive compounds are still present you're just wasting pct gear.

jelly
11-19-2008, 10:29 PM
the reason for the wait is to allow the suppressive compounds to clear your system before stimulating your natural test production. you can not stimulate production while being suppressed, if suppressive compounds are still present you're just wasting pct gear.

Sounds good big. I thought 1 week was good because I read in some other post that people wait 2 weeks just to get the more out of their test. The post then said that 1 week would be better so you could start up your natural production quicker.

If the test would really supress it then I now have a new understanding of the wait time. I will wait 2 weeks now, not one.

Thanks BIg. You're always there to answer. So funny, everytime I post you answer. You're BIG brother. :\/:

Big
11-20-2008, 07:37 AM
Glad I could help :)

gtbees05
11-20-2008, 11:48 AM
Nolva. 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Then wait 12 wks and you'll be ready for your next cycle.

Big:

For my PCT, what does the above dosages mean to you? Is that 4 days or 4 weeks?

Thanks.

ma3adi_Darkman
01-12-2009, 05:14 PM
I finish now my 1st cycle testerone enth. 9 weeks 500mg per week and dbol for 6 Weeks 30 mg per day , i was planing to take for pct clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20 after 14 days from my last shot .But my trainer wanna me To take hcg 500 unit every day for 20 days After my last shot of test (he Dont wanna me to wait until the half life of testerone finish). and wanna me to take Also clomid 100/50/50/50 any suggestion pls because am so confused about these pct

lew00029478
01-13-2009, 11:13 AM
ma3adi_Darkman

Word of advice mate, dont get TOO bogged down with the whole PCT thing becuase i guarantee you will get at last 10 different repies to your question, all with different answers and all claiming they know best.

Why are you thinking of taking Nolva AND Clomid? Whats the point?

If i were you I would suggest you get yourself some Nolva and forget about Clomid. Take 20mg daily starting 17 days after your last inj. Continue this for 3-4 weeks and you';ll be fine :)

lew00029478
01-13-2009, 11:16 AM
oh yeh ........P.S............is your 'Trainer' also the guy selling you the roids and PCT stuff by any chance? lol

ma3adi_Darkman
01-13-2009, 11:46 AM
Thanks man for ur replay. really i was confused but know i think i will use
Clomid and nlova after 14 days from the last shot but can i ask u question Do why i start my pct after 14 days from the last shot is it becouse the life Cycle of testestrone and why we didnt start it after our last shot in cycl

Muselz
02-07-2009, 10:43 AM
Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration

What is the PCT start time for NPP?

pikeyboy
02-10-2009, 03:53 PM
Does anyone know the PCT start times for;

Trenbolone Acetate
Trenbolone Enanthate

Muselz
02-12-2009, 10:30 AM
Does anyone know the PCT start times for;

Trenbolone Acetate
Trenbolone Enanthate

Not sure about acetate, but enanthate is 14 days after last shot.

Big
02-12-2009, 11:00 AM
What is the PCT start time for NPP?
3 days
Does anyone know the PCT start times for;

Trenbolone Acetate
Trenbolone Enanthate
3 days
14 days.

the ester is what determines pct start time, not the compound, so for instance test e or tren e would be the same.

Muselz
02-12-2009, 04:59 PM
3 days

3 days
14 days.

the ester is what determines pct start time, not the compound, so for instance test e or tren e would be the same.

acetate and propinate would also be the same...correct?

Big
02-12-2009, 05:22 PM
correct

pikeyboy
02-13-2009, 12:00 PM
Thanks for that Guys.

Nizz
03-04-2009, 01:06 PM
Glad I found this place. Knowledge is king. Im not looking for monstrous gains and have had taken deca, equipoise, winny and tren in the past very moderately and get the exact gains I want. I keep the dose low, about 300mg a week. Right now Ive been on Equipoise for 3 weeks and an trying to peak out for a vacation in mid april. I am way sensitive to gyno and this is my major concern. So being 6 weeks out how do I plan for the peak? I have tren and winny on hand too. I also have an over the counter PCT HMG by American Cell Labs. This is all thats available to me. In the past I would quit the cycle 2 weeks before I wanted to peak and be good. Well with a small time window Im wondering should I keep going through my vacation, stop 2 weeks before and take the HMG or keep going with the cycle and take the HMG 2 weeks before the vacation. Thanks for any help guys.

bobbym17
03-14-2009, 08:44 PM
so let me see if i learned anything .I am on 500mgs. test cyp. 18days after my last pin i start 25 ed nolvadex and will do 25 ed proviron for 4 weeks as my pct Does this sound correct ?

Mr.TrX
04-26-2009, 09:59 AM
so does the absorption time vary from one to the other? or does the the absorption depend on the quality?

ItalianMuscle
06-07-2009, 11:23 PM
Little Help om PCT

I'm doing 12 week cycle
Tren 100mg, eod
masternon 100mg eod
winny tabs 50mg , eod

I have proviron and Nolvadex.
when shld i start that and how many mg each
should i combine both ?
thanx

mysixpackabs
06-18-2009, 03:42 AM
Based on Pheedno's PCT start times, if your last shot of Boldenone June 30. You will start your PCT, 21 days after last injection. So that July 21? Going to take Nolva.

trueX
06-19-2009, 01:19 PM
Taking Test C and pin each 3.5 days at .75cc giving me 375mg per week, plan to start 14-18 days after last pin.

Was thinking of the nolva and clomid, some say its really good to take with one another, and other posts ask "why would you take both, stick to nolva and be done with it"

Wasn't sure really if together was better or one of the two by superior. Im only into week 4 on my cycle but wanted to get the stuff here before it got to late and didnt know how much for how long of each, was thinking 40mg a day for 4 weeks of possibly just the nolva? Thanks all.

krak111
06-21-2009, 04:31 AM
Ive been running a cycle for 12 weeks..
I shot twice a week mon and thursdays
mon shot consisted of 300mg(1cc) deca, 200mg(1cc) test cyp, 100mg(1cc) test prop.
thursdays shot consisted of 400mg(2cc) test cyp, 100mg(1cc) test prop.
I stopped the deca about 7 weeks in...and I started dianabol tablets 50mg /day wk10-12

I also took some gH for the last 4weeks at 4iu a day.
I stopped everything(my last test shot, dbol, gh) on May 25. and I started PCT on May 30. My PCT looks like this.
Clomid 100 mg's ed week 1-2
50 mg's ed week 3-5

Arimidex or letro .25 mg's ed week 1-4

hcg 5000 iu twice a week for one week. then 2500 iu twice a week for two weeks.

My question is did I start PCT too early for the cyp to clear the system?

trueX
06-21-2009, 01:22 PM
I think you did start a little early, as far as the other stuff you are taking, I cant speak to much to those as ive never taken them but the Test C, I believe you start PCT 14 days after last injection.

That could fluctuate depending on the other start times for PCT on the other substances, hope that makes sense.

krak111
06-22-2009, 07:51 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but those start times I believe reflect when to start Clomid/Nolva..

My question is regarding the HCG...Can I start it after 4-5 days of my last injection of 5000iu 2x a week for one week and 2500iu 2x a week for 2 weeks?

blazerelf
07-16-2009, 08:02 PM
is it ok to use clomid with a test e+dbol cycle?and how much should the dose be off and where can i purshase it,can I in a pharmacy?

Big
07-16-2009, 08:03 PM
is it ok to use clomid with a test e+dbol cycle?and how much should the dose be off and where can i purshase it,can I in a pharmacy?

do you mean use clomid on cycle? I wouldn't.

Alou
08-11-2009, 09:47 PM
for test c its 14 days after. so between ur last shot and the 14 day u take nothing ?

T-MOS
08-11-2009, 11:06 PM
for test c its 14 days after. so between ur last shot and the 14 day u take nothing ?

HUH, where did you see that???

Test cyp is 18 days after, NOT 14

and there are things you can take in that time period, but you need to start a thread and ask there, not here

KurtAngleRookieYear
08-30-2009, 05:33 PM
I ran an admittedly ill-planned and ridiculously short sust cycle that ended about 2 weeks ago. I injected 500 mg a week for 4 weeks and a I did it inconsistently.

My problem is I would like to continue with sust or cyp but there is the issue of the 2 week break. If I continue, should I do it alongside PCT?

zepiqueno
09-16-2009, 02:55 PM
what bout being on an anavar only cycle? and what compound is best for pct on anavar ?

H_U_G_O
09-17-2009, 08:24 AM
What about Testoviron depot... active life is 8 days i think so i should i start the pct 8 days after ?

07sandiegomuscle
10-17-2009, 07:19 PM
Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration

So, with this information you are telling us that PCT should start once the aas in out of our bodies? And this is approximately how long they will be in our bodies right? Thanks

Big
10-17-2009, 07:58 PM
So, with this information you are telling us that PCT should start once the aas in out of our bodies? And this is approximately how long they will be in our bodies right? Thanks

exactly.

TRYER
10-18-2009, 10:34 AM
i have not just fininsh a cycle but i have never done a pct even tho i have done many cycles im currently on hgh im 60 days into it but i would like to do a full pct as i feel my strength is not very good at the moment, can i do a full pct now whiles on hgh and if so what would i take and for how long

cheers guys

Big
10-18-2009, 11:42 AM
i have not just fininsh a cycle but i have never done a pct even tho i have done many cycles im currently on hgh im 60 days into it but i would like to do a full pct as i feel my strength is not very good at the moment, can i do a full pct now whiles on hgh and if so what would i take and for how long

cheers guys

it would be a good idea to get bloodwork and see where you're levels are, but if you wanted to run a mild pct now that would be fine, nolva and clomid would work.

TRYER
10-18-2009, 02:19 PM
it would be a good idea to get bloodwork and see where you're levels are, but if you wanted to run a mild pct now that would be fine, nolva and clomid would work.

i did get blood done and test levels were very low

RogerRamjet
10-19-2009, 06:46 AM
About to start my first cycle of Decca/Winny

Ideas on PCT? I don't want to begin until i'm sorted out for what to run afterwards..

Big
10-19-2009, 06:59 AM
About to start my first cycle of Decca/Winny

Ideas on PCT? I don't want to begin until i'm sorted out for what to run afterwards..

considering what a horrible cycle idea that is, you should start your own thread so we can sort it.

RogerRamjet
10-20-2009, 12:03 AM
New thread started in AS - QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

Thread is titled - Winstrol Depot/Deca-Durabolin

Feel free to inform me!

cmtz429
10-31-2009, 10:19 AM
I ran a 4 week methyl prohormone and gh stack when should I pct?

HeavyWeight_86
11-09-2009, 01:07 PM
If I run a cycle like this:
Week 1-12 500 mg Test E x week
Week 1-4 40 mg Dianabol x week

What amounts of clomid and nolva should I take starting PCT?

Chazzyd
11-11-2009, 10:12 PM
I'm sort of self-medicating, by taking 1 cc of Enanthate about every 2 weeks, sometimes 3 if I'm travelling. Do you think that level of test would require any type of PCT or supplementary med?

Big
11-11-2009, 10:15 PM
I'm sort of self-medicating, by taking 1 cc of Enanthate about every 2 weeks, sometimes 3 if I'm travelling. Do you think that level of test would require any type of PCT or supplementary med?

kind of vague, what is the planned cycle?