Chuck Liddell: "Fedor Is Overrated"

**$$TML 4 LIFE$$** · 03-22-2008, 02:10 PM

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...icle944485.ece

BG · 03-22-2008, 03:23 PM

I wouldnt go that far. I find it hard to believe someone could say that after getting KO'd in the first round while losing his belt

**zartan** · 03-22-2008, 04:57 PM

dana white loves controversy !

**lotaquestions** · 03-22-2008, 09:41 PM

i agree, i dont think that he is overrated but that it is time that he is tested.

**Synyster** · 03-24-2008, 07:54 AM

out of that whole article.....you didnt see chuck saying he'd be willing to step up to heavyweight to fight him!!! i think rampage knocked some wires loose in chucks brain.... LMAO!!!!

**jonny101** · 03-24-2008, 11:30 AM

evryone says that couture/fedor is a dream match but chuck smashed randy up twice lol
i think fedor is overrated he hasnt falt ne1 worth talking about for years how can he be the number1 fighter
yea chuck has been sh it as of late but you cant forget what he can do when he is on he's game,evryone loses and evryone gets ko'd dont count chuck out yet

**Amorphic** · 03-24-2008, 03:03 PM

i'd say liddell is overrated.

**facile** · 03-24-2008, 03:29 PM

I am a chuck fan, but Fedor although not being tested latley is still a bad MF!

**lotaquestions** · 03-24-2008, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Amorphic

i'd say liddell is overrated.

how did you come to that conclusion?

**Amorphic** · 03-24-2008, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by lotaquestions

how did you come to that conclusion?

his last few fights have been nothing spectacular.

hes gotten caught up in the celebrity lifestyle and it shows in his fights.

there are tons of fighters in the ufc that are in much better shape and have much more talent.

liddell is getting old, i dont think he has much left in him.

**lotaquestions** · 03-24-2008, 05:28 PM

i think that he has been loosing focus a little lately, but how can you say overrated? there is nobady at 205 who can walk through chuck or would want to try. rampage didnt get his attention, he thaught that it was a lucky punch, but his loss to jardine i belive woke him up and made him realize that you cant take anything or anyone lightly in this sport...evidence the silva fight, where chuck proved once again that he has the best hands in the game. chuck, unlike fedor, has faught every one of the top guys in the class year in and year out, and has beatin all of them (except you know who) desively. what else can he do?

**rush_604** · 03-24-2008, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by lotaquestions

i think that he has been loosing focus a little lately, but how can you say overrated? there is nobady at 205 who can walk through chuck or would want to try. rampage didnt get his attention, he thaught that it was a lucky punch, but his loss to jardine i belive woke him up and made him realize that you cant take anything or anyone lightly in this sport...evidence the silva fight, where chuck proved once again that he has the best hands in the game. chuck, unlike fedor, has faught every one of the top guys in the class year in and year out, and has beatin all of them (except you know who) desively. what else can he do?

Chuck has the best hands in the game??

Maybe best over hand right. or a shit load of power

His hands are no where near as technical and precise as Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, and even Mirko.

Is Chuck overrated? Not really. I did think so before when all he fought was mostly good wrestlers, but he proved me wrong after the Wand fight

**Amorphic** · 03-24-2008, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by lotaquestions

i think that he has been loosing focus a little lately, but how can you say overrated? there is nobady at 205 who can walk through chuck or would want to try. rampage didnt get his attention, he thaught that it was a lucky punch, but his loss to jardine i belive woke him up and made him realize that you cant take anything or anyone lightly in this sport...evidence the silva fight, where chuck proved once again that he has the best hands in the game. chuck, unlike fedor, has faught every one of the top guys in the class year in and year out, and has beatin all of them (except you know who) desively. what else can he do?

im not doubting the fact he is a good fighter, i think his ego was a little inflated however, and he suffered the losses as a result.

he'll never beat rampage though.

**Synyster** · 03-25-2008, 09:58 AM

the best hands?? LMAO!!! i think we all know who really has the best hands in the game thus far. its obvious!!!

**lotaquestions** · 03-25-2008, 02:11 PM

i meant at 205. no doubt that silva is the best striker (hands,knees, kicks and elbows), but off of strait hands i think that chucks are as good if not better (a big if)

**rush_604** · 03-25-2008, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by lotaquestions

i meant at 205. no doubt that silva is the best striker (hands,knees, kicks and elbows), but off of strait hands i think that chucks are as good if not better (a big if)

I would go with Lyoto. Chuck definetly has the KO power, but no were near the technique of Lyoto. Even Hackleman said they wouldnt want to fight Lyoto.

**rickrick55** · 03-25-2008, 06:14 PM

chuck doesnt have that kill instinct anymore i dont think...there was a time in the jardine fight where he could have finished him..and against wand chucky had him stumblin all over the place and backed off..he still is sick (my favorite)...and hopefully he gets it back..because i wanna see him knock people out not win by decision

**sphincter** · 03-25-2008, 07:27 PM

so let me get this straight... one of the most over rated, over hyped fighters in the game right now is callign FEDOR overrated??? WTFis the world coming to?? I agree Chuck musta got some wires knocked loose in his last several KTFO's!!

**Budk024** · 03-25-2008, 08:26 PM

Chuck is a raw fighter but as it happens with alot of other greats he did get caught up with the fame and everything. I think now he is finally getting back on track and is starting to get that spark back.

**youngmuscle123** · 03-25-2008, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Amorphic

im not doubting the fact he is a good fighter, i think his ego was a little inflated however, and he suffered the losses as a result.

he'll never beat rampage though.

ill agree hes gotten a little caught up in ego and didn't think rampage was a threat (got laid out for it too). However, he is fully capable of beating rampage so long as he doesn't come into the fight looking for that knockout right off the bat, which was the case the last fight when rampage slipped that punch right on the chin with chucks guard completely down. Not that Rampage isn't a kick ass fighter just that I don't think the two fights between him and chuck, have been with chuck being chuck.

**youngmuscle123** · 03-25-2008, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by sphincter

so let me get this straight... one of the most over rated, over hyped fighters in the game right now is callign FEDOR overrated??? WTFis the world coming to?? I agree Chuck musta got some wires knocked loose in his last several KTFO's!!

First off last fight with Silva, Chuck tore his face to pieces and won. Keith Jardine got his ass beat and if you see their faces after the fight you can tell striking wise Chuck put in work so hardly a KTFO!! Can't really argue with the rampage fight, he did get laid out. Overrated though, not at all look at his damn track record. People who aren't even that into MMA have still probably heard of most the guys he fights. He doesn't fight guaranteed wins, he fights the best. Then he knocks them out too which is why everyone loves him; everyone loves a knockout meanwhile Fedor only puts out submissions.

**Synyster** · 03-26-2008, 08:02 AM

its not about who has KO power.....everybody has KO power! it just depends on where you hit the person and how much force is applied. anyways, Fedor is one of the most fluid fighters ive seen. i mean where is this guys weakness!!?? remember when Kevin Randleman picked him up and damn near broke his neck?? Fedor just shoke it off and submitted Kevin with ease. cmon people. his stand up is sick and his ground game is ridiculous. LOL!!! im not sure if Fedor could beat himself!!!!!

**lotaquestions** · 03-26-2008, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by sphincter

so let me get this straight... one of the most over rated, over hyped fighters in the game right now is callign FEDOR overrated??? WTFis the world coming to?? I agree Chuck musta got some wires knocked loose in his last several KTFO's!!

chuck has done enough for mma that he can say what ever he wants and it should at least be respected wether or not you agree. I dont think fedor is overrated but i would like for him to prove to me why he is considered the best, i have a bad memory and i cant seem to remember why he is the greatest because it has been so long since he actually fought someone whos name i remember.

**Synyster** · 03-26-2008, 01:22 PM

prove it against who?? hell randy aint proved shit to me since he came back from retirement!! he faught weak ass tim silvia and a gabriel gonzaga who is an up and coming superstar. so what are we really talkin about here folks?? lol..... lets keep it real.

**zimmy** · 03-26-2008, 02:48 PM

yay this sounds like a couch fan arguement!

**youngmuscle123** · 03-26-2008, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Synyster

its not about who has KO power.....everybody has KO power! it just depends on where you hit the person and how much force is applied. anyways, Fedor is one of the most fluid fighters ive seen. i mean where is this guys weakness!!?? remember when Kevin Randleman picked him up and damn near broke his neck?? Fedor just shoke it off and submitted Kevin with ease. cmon people. his stand up is sick and his ground game is ridiculous. LOL!!! im not sure if Fedor could beat himself!!!!!

Yes anyone has KO power in the sense that if one person stands there and lets someone hit them as hard they can in the chin they have a damn good chance of putting them to sleep; the difference is being able to create that open shot and how well you can capitalize on it. Thats like saying anyone can submit anyone, because it depends on what limb you grab hold of and how much force is applied...so does that mean everyone can do it? His stand up relies on his defense so its not that sick, he is a ground fighter and Randy Couture is an expert on the ground. How exactly is Tim Sylvia weak? The man is 6'8 260 and won the Heavyweight belt, the guy can fight even if it is solely because of his size. Couture is 12 years older than him, 6 inches shorter, and 35 pounds less and laid him out in the first punch and then take the heavyweight belt, how else do you prove yourself aside from doing that then challenging the man with the best heavyweight record out there?