Originally Posted by billy_ba
depends on what you take. Almost all pro fighters juice. Matt hughes walks around at 210 and fights at 169, they all do it, ufc is the only major organization that tests athletes and they only test when they are fighting for a title fight. and you can still beat those piss tests with a cathader, some get caught some dont. Pride and other organizations do not test so fighters look like freaks. I think it should be no big deal if a fighter juices because they all do it, so basicly it makes for a level playing field. Juice really dosent effect your wind too much, some of my friends have had trouble with decca and endurance. Clen sucked for me training big time, It made my lungs completely open so I couldnt get a full breath. No problems with my last cycle of test/eq/tren and I was fine. I know a lot of other bros run winny because its good for your cardio. You wont have much mass gains but you will gain all lean mass.