05-06-2005, 02:10 PM #1
rear naked choke w/ legs hooked in (technique question)
I havent found any way to get out of the rear-naked choke thats effective, does anyone have any advice?
(aside from the typical - make sure they dont get it - advice)
05-06-2005, 06:01 PM #2
If it's properly applied and sunk deep youre not getting out without tapping out, you wont have time. Only real hope is that you manage to get a grip of buddy's arm before or prevent him from fully sinking it on you, then you have a chance to slip out
05-06-2005, 10:02 PM #3Originally Posted by chicamahomico
Here is what you should do
First grab their arms and pull down, with both hands.
To relieve some pressure you got to turn your chin towards their hand that is grasping their other arm.
Do not try to sit up.
You also have to shift your hips out and try to get past their legs.
You should at least try to turn into their gaurd if you cant get out.
If you think you can hold out with one hand holding their arm the use the other hand to pull the guys arm that is behind your head. This is not recomended though cuz usually once you let go they just sink it in tighter.
So basically turn your chin into the weakest part of the hold and pull down with both hands, and at the same time you should be trying to shift your hips out and get past their legs.
You have to learn to relax in this situation.
If you panic then you will suck up air and just tap.
Stay calm and relax... and remember instead of wasting the effort on tapping, use that effort and time before you pass out ...to get out!
05-07-2005, 08:15 AM #4Retired Vet
Originally Posted by phwSSJ
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I can't add anymore to what the guys have said. Relaxation comes with experience, really experience will be the key to relaxing and not being afraid of getting choked out.
05-07-2005, 12:52 PM #5Originally Posted by BOUNCER
very good point bouncer,
I should have elaborated on that.
Another thing I forgot is, under no circumstanc do you lift up your chin to expose your throat.
Your opponent will try many painfull maneuvers to get you to lift up your chin.
He might even lock in the chock over your jaw. This could be very painfull and may even put you out. But you definitly have a lot more time then, instead of when their forearm is across your throat.
This all comes with experience, you will get tough eventoually and be able to endure the pain. But always remember to keep your chin down. I think training your abs, your neck, and your grip, are essential to grappling and fighting. But dont forget about the rest of your body.
There is nothing like Jocye choking you out and telling you that your life is over while you are passing out, or telling you that your life is in his hands now and what u gona do about it.
After that happens to you a few times you never get lazy when someone tries to sink in a choke, you fight for your life.
Last edited by phwSSJ; 05-07-2005 at 03:03 PM.
05-07-2005, 06:38 PM #6
I have several ways to escape depending on the positioning your opponent is in,
If someone is trying to go for the choke you block your neck by putting your elbow to the sky and touching your ear to your shoulder.
if the choke is already secured:
if they have your back and they are on their back(you are facing the sky), you immediately grab the hand that is pressing against the back of your head and pull it down. This will buy you a little bit of time. you then do what we call tipping the scales. He is controlling your weight equally between both of his legs, so you push your weight forward and at the same time you move your ass from in between the legs to completely on one leg. Once your weight is solely on one of his legs you can spin out into his guard. The reason this works really well is because your weight completely takes out one of his hooks from controling you. From this position you need to watch out for your opponent switching to an armbar when you pull their hand down.
if they have your back and your face down, grab the arm and pull it down, put your pressure again on one side of your opponents leg then quickly spin the opposite direction, From this position you need to watch out for your opponent switching to an armbar when you pull their hand down
if they have your back and they have a figure 4 around your body, pull the hand from behind your head then roll your opponent so both of you are facing the ground, you do what we call a tripod with all of your weight supported by both legs and your forehead on the mat, you push your weight forward, then you grab the back of your opponents head and pull them off your back.
05-07-2005, 08:40 PM #7Retired Vet
Originally Posted by billy_ba
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I find that method pretty effective unless your opponent has his "hooks in", ie has his feet hooked into your thighs. There's lots of things you can do to try to dislodge him, but if he has the choke in you simply won't have the time or energy for fancy manuveurs at this stage.
As someone posted earlier, your opponent will use little painfull tricks to try get your chin up, ie forearm accross your chin, nose, digging his knuckles into your jaw line (extremly painfull with bare hands, without 4oz MMA gloves). Again experience will toughen you against such tactics, but be prepared for lots of sore jaws, lips, nose etc while you learn to defend against someone sinking in the strangle.
05-09-2005, 05:13 PM #8
GQ......... your welcome, by the way!
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