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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL
    Ok glad to hear the temp is back up to where it needs to be, thats why its always averages of the temp that i am in interested in and not just 1 day as there are so many variables in day to day life to regulate the body temperature... I am sorry about your personal life not going the way it should, i have been sleeping an average 4-5 hours per day for few weeks now and know what impact it has on me and my performance in the gym as well as my physique...my life has been complicated last little bit as well which does not help either...so i know what you mean, i have dropped from 210lbs to 198lbs and last i checked my abs are not any more visible, so i know its muscle fulness, i got to get my sh!t together again, its been a rough ride for last 9 month for me... So hang in there and keep doing what you are doing and keep us updated...we are here for you...
    Thx you for understanding and help. I decided to come off cycle - too much stress and stress of cycle is too much. Been on for 8 weeks. Time for break. Do a detox and run this stack, train hard. Run another cycle later.

    I plan to take temp for next few days...and will post up.

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    Glad to be able to assist...

    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Thx you for understanding and help. I decided to come off cycle - too much stress and stress of cycle is too much. Been on for 8 weeks. Time for break. Do a detox and run this stack, train hard. Run another cycle later.

    I plan to take temp for next few days...and will post up.

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    Does this stack erase appetite? I haven't thought about food all day long.

    Now I was texting one of my gf and she asked why I was texting soooo much. LoL

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
    97.0 degrees this morning
    97.0 this morning

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    yes it would suppress the appetite...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL
    yes it would suppress the appetite...
    Ok. I am so jacked up on this stack, I decided to not take the afternoon dose today. Going to adjust ephedrine down to 18.75 (was taking 25mg).

    Scale going down down down... too quickly. I am drinking water so it's not dehydration.

    Wished I had looked into this 2 years ago when stuck at a plateau

    Does the body get immune to the ingredients at some point like when on phen?

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    If you stopped the cycle is normal for scale to go down as the muscles release the extra water and sugar they were holding.

    Dont look to scale so much lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB
    If you stopped the cycle is normal for scale to go down as the muscles release the extra water and sugar they were holding. Dont look to scale so much lol
    But i only pulled back on 10 mg var so far.
    I am pulling down on var again tomorrow, then primo by 10mg, 10 and finally last 10.

    I started ECY stack before I started drawing down on cycle. This stack has me wired Actually I am kinda back to a person I used to me. Full of endless every.... I was twirling around my place yesterday like a ballerina. :P

    Thank you for your response.

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    Girly!!!! This is all so amazing!!!! Beyond stoked for you, looks like the plateau is toasted. Hellsyeah!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmybody
    Girly!!!! This is all so amazing!!!! Beyond stoked for you, looks like the plateau is toasted. Hellsyeah!!!!!!!!
    Looking that way!!!! Down another 1/2 pound yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
    Looking that way!!!! Down another 1/2 pound yesterday.
    Shazaaaaam Sam!!!! On a roll!

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmybody
    Shazaaaaam Sam!!!! On a roll!
    Only taking one dosage a day....until job stress abates. My eyes started twitching.....I can't have that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
    Only taking one dosage a day....until job stress abates. My eyes started twitching.....I can't have that.
    Yikes, yeah don't blame you there at all. Now that's a weird feeling. Did you know this can be caused by this stack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmybody
    Yikes, yeah don't blame you there at all. Now that's a weird feeling. Did you know this can be caused by this stack?
    Stack did not cause the eye twitch. It's all the triggers listed on the left. I need a break from the job!

    To find a solution for eye twitching, we needed to determine the underlying cause of this annoying problem. Called myokymia in doctor lingo, these rippling muscle contractions in an eyelid can be triggered by:

    Stress
    Tiredness
    Eye strain
    Caffeine
    Alcohol
    Dry eyes
    Nutritional imbalances
    Allergies

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    @Mike

    Is it possible to substitute the ephedrine with Synephrine HCL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uhit
    @Mike Is it possible to substitute the ephedrine with Synephrine HCL?
    ^^^ good question!

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    Been updating my cycle results log.

    Weight dropping! Happiness is ECY stack!!!
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    I dont know if you could substitute with Synethrine HCL, i would guess yes but not sure at what ratio...that is a good question that i dont have answer to as i have never used Synethrine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL View Post
    I dont know if you could substitute with Synethrine HCL, i would guess yes but not sure at what ratio...that is a good question that i dont have answer to as i have never used Synethrine...
    I'll experiment with it and see if it helps accelerate fat loss (even by 0.2-0.3lbs a week would be very desirable). I'll take 20mg to start it off.

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    DrewZ runs a modified stack. Let me see if he will pop in to explain adjustment.
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    Really need to bookmark this for when its time to be a naked banana with onion skin again. Thank you @Girly for keeping this updated, all the info and all the ways to substitute. I really appreciate all of your time and effort lady.

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    My temp reading this morning was 96.8....

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    This is good stuff, keep it up! Subbed

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    Quote Originally Posted by uhit
    I'll experiment with it and see if it helps accelerate fat loss (even by 0.2-0.3lbs a week would be very desirable). I'll take 20mg to start it off.
    I ran austnite over the counter fat loss and no results. But it did seem that the guys had some success.

    It would be very interesting to see how you modify and results.

    The ECY stack is dropping fat for me. My doc is going to be very surprised when i weigh in.

    I am also wired. One dose yesterday, workouts and felt to sleep. Still playing with second dose.

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    I substituted Synephrine for Yohimbine in Austinite's fatloss protocol.

    If you want to try yohimbine heres how I dose it;

    I take 10mg when under 185# and 12.5mg when over that.

    When cutting and dropping to <175# while still taking my 12.5mg dose I would get some serious anxiety from it though.

    If you experience this, know it was just the yohimbine


    Mike; what would you say about someone who runs a little hot all the time, say 99.2 to 99.7F
    Last edited by DrewZ; 07-14-2015 at 07:50 AM.

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    WOW never met anyone that runs this hot first thing in the morning, i would say potential for hyper hyperthyroidism...i would have this checked...personaly i dont like Yohimbine HCL over 3mg, however there is a difference between Standardized Yohimbe Bark and Yohimbine HCL, make sure everyone understand what they are taking...at 12.5mg of Yohimbine HCL i would go insane...

    If i was to sabstitue anything it would be Ephedrine for Synephrine, Synephrine and Yohimbine are two different compounds from different families and different forms of action...they are not really direct replacement for each other...

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    Right now running Synephrine HCL @ 30mg, Caffeine @ 200mg (with a coffee mid afternoon so probably 300mg altogether), Yohimbine HCL 2.5mg while being in a net 400calorie deficit daily.

    Literally experience the same thing as you GGR in terms of heat. I get random heatwaves and hot flushes and sweat even when typing on a keyboard. Crazy stuff.
    Am at 169.3 right now, hopefully in a month I can be 165 and actual begin bulking again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uhit
    Right now running Synephrine HCL @ 30mg, Caffeine @ 200mg (with a coffee mid afternoon so probably 300mg altogether), Yohimbine HCL 2.5mg while being in a net 400calorie deficit daily. Literally experience the same thing as you GGR in terms of heat. I get random heatwaves and hot flushes and sweat even when typing on a keyboard. Crazy stuff. Am at 169.3 right now, hopefully in a month I can be 165 and actual begin bulking again.
    Synephrine did nothing for me on the over the counter stack. Nothing. But believe the dosage to be much lower. Idk. Can't Remember.

    Ephedrine and yohimbine are awesome. Uhit. R u only taking one dose per day of your stack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Synephrine did nothing for me on the over the counter stack. Nothing. But believe the dosage to be much lower. Idk. Can't Remember.

    Ephedrine and yohimbine are awesome. Uhit. R u only taking one dose per day of your stack?
    1 in the am on the empty stomach (half the dosage) and then the other half in the evening, usually pre workout on workout days. But at least 6 or so hours after the initial dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL View Post
    WOW never met anyone that runs this hot first thing in the morning, i would say potential for hyper hyperthyroidism...i would have this checked...personaly i dont like Yohimbine HCL over 3mg, however there is a difference between Standardized Yohimbe Bark and Yohimbine HCL, make sure everyone understand what they are taking...at 12.5mg of Yohimbine HCL i would go insane...

    If i was to sabstitue anything it would be Ephedrine for Synephrine, Synephrine and Yohimbine are two different compounds from different families and different forms of action...they are not really direct replacement for each other...
    Woah, I thought I was on the low end for dosing?
    When i first got Yohimbine HCL I wasn't sure about dosages.
    doing some googling I found write ups on Examine and Livestrong saying to take 0.2mg/kg bodyweight; which would put me at over 17mg, No Thank You!


    Note this warning from examine.com:
    Quote Originally Posted by http://examine.com/supplements/Yohimbine
    Caution Notice

    Yohimbine can cause extreme anxiety in individuals predisposed to anxiety.
    Yohimbine may trigger manic psychosis or suicidal episodes in people with bipolar disorder.
    Yohimbine can interact with a large amount of neurological medications and should not be used in conjunction with these medication without consultation with a doctor
    I believe it also has interactions when Clen and should not be used with it.
    Last edited by DrewZ; 07-19-2015 at 08:56 AM.
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    ^^^ excellent post.

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    I have found the sweet spot for this stack over the last few weeks. Both Dosage and timing.

    I am down yet another pound. This is better then any AAS I have used for cutting as I believe var and primo lend themselves better to bulking cycles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
    I have found the sweet spot for this stack over the last few weeks. Both Dosage and timing. I am down yet another pound. This is better then any AAS I have used for cutting as I believe var and primo lend themselves better to bulking cycles.
    Let's get a high five for nailing the sweet spot on dosages GGR, always a beautiful ah-a moment. Amen!!!! Baum Chakka Lakka Sister, keep it going!!!!!

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    The haters (some females at work) noticed I am losing. Haters gonna hate.

    It's now noticeable. HA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
    The haters (some females at work) noticed I am losing. Haters gonna hate. It's now noticeable. HA!
    Bring on the haters!!!! Thank them for the extra motivation they are giving you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmybody
    Let's get a high five for nailing the sweet spot on dosages GGR, always a beautiful ah-a moment. Amen!!!! Baum Chakka Lakka Sister, keep it going!!!!!
    My sweet spot is @ 530 am and @ 1 pm.

    18.75 mg ephedrine
    200 mg caffeine
    2.5 mg yohimbine (I didn't find 3mg so would have run this had I not been quick to order)

    Today I took 2nd dose later but need to stay alert for the evening so I hope it doesn't keep me from sleeping later. :S
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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
    My sweet spot is @ 530 am and @ 1 pm. 18.75 mg ephedrine 200 mg caffeine 2.5 mg yohimbine (I didn't find 3mg so would have run this had I not been quick to order) Today I took 2nd dose later but need to stay alert for the evening so I hope it doesn't keep me from sleeping later. :S
    Sleep is a common issue amongst all of usOne day I'm gonna go back to dinky and sleeping through the night....WHEN WE ARE DEAD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmybody
    Sleep is a common issue amongst all of usOne day I'm gonna go back to dinky and sleeping through the night....WHEN WE ARE DEAD!
    U may want to avoid this stack. Stimulants are impacting me. Like energizer bunny. LoL.

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    Mike. What's your recommendation on cycle protocol? Do I cycle on and off.

    This ECY stack is the bomb. Down another 2.5 pounds.

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    I am glad its working for you so well...thats awesome...also glad to help out...

    I generally do not cycle these, just stay on till the target date...so if you have a target weight or date stay on till you get there, if not, then perhaps 4 on, 2 off...

    At some point the "energizer bunny" feeling wears off as bata receptor responsible for that feeling gets down regulated but the Beta 2 receptor is still active and fat burning is taking effect...

    So i guess it depends on your goal...

    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Mike. What's your recommendation on cycle protocol? Do I cycle on and off.

    This ECY stack is the bomb. Down another 2.5 pounds.

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