How's this cutting diet?

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05-18-2004, 05:16 PM
Barbellman

How's this cutting diet?

I'm trying to work out a diet for a buddy. He's 250lbs, 6'0. He's been working out for a while now, just needs the right diet..

Here's the plan:

Weights 4x a week
AM Cardio (walking 3 miles on empty stomach (15min/mile) 45min total
One "cheat day" a week (two cheat meals done earlier in the day)

The Diet:
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Meal 1:

8 egg whites
1 cup of quaker oats

Meal 2:

2 95% Lean burger patties cooked on a foreman grill
6 CLA oil caps (1 gram fat per each of these caps)

Meal 3:

Problab protein shake(has 6 carbs, is this gonna be a problem?)
10 CLA oil caps (1 gram fat per each of these caps)

Workout

Meal 5: (Post workout shake)

Prolab protein shake (30 grams protein)
Malto/dex mix (80 grams carbs)

Meal 6:

2 Lemon chicken breasts (60 grams protein)
1 bag of brown rice (44 grams carbs)

Meal 7:

2 Lemon chicken breasts (60 grams protein)
10 CLA oil caps (1 gram fat per each cap)

Meal 8:

Prolab protein shake(has 6 carbs, is this gonna be a problem?)
10 CLA oil caps (1 gram fat per each cap)

It's about ~2500-2600 calories..

For the days he doesn't workout, it'll be every meal minus the PWO shake and minus the rice with Meal 6 and it'll be replaced with CLA oil caps...

SO hit me with the feedback boys..
05-18-2004, 05:20 PM
daman1

REPLYING IN CAPS. YOUR FATS ARE TOO LOW AND YOUR GETTING THEM FROM POOR SOURCES

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barbellman

I'm trying to work out a diet for a buddy. He's 250lbs, 6'0. He's been working out for a while now, just needs the right diet..

Here's the plan:

Weights 4x a week
AM Cardio (walking 3 miles on empty stomach (15min/mile) 45min total
One "cheat day" a week (two cheat meals done earlier in the day)

The Diet:
--------

Meal 1:

8 egg whites
1 cup of quaker oats

NEEDS TO BE PRO/FAT IF YOUR DOING CARDIO FIRST THING

Meal 2:

2 95% Lean burger patties cooked on a foreman grill
6 CLA oil caps (1 gram fat per each of these caps)

MIGHT NEED MORE FATS HERE

Meal 3:

Problab protein shake(has 6 carbs, is this gonna be a problem?)
10 CLA oil caps (1 gram fat per each of these caps)

NEED MORE FATS HERE

Workout

Meal 5: (Post workout shake)

Prolab protein shake (30 grams protein)
Malto/dex mix (80 grams carbs)

NEED 60G CARBS NOT 80

Meal 6:

2 Lemon chicken breasts (60 grams protein)
1 bag of brown rice (44 grams carbs)

LOOKS GOOD

Meal 7:

2 Lemon chicken breasts (60 grams protein)
10 CLA oil caps (1 gram fat per each cap)

NEED MORE FATS

Meal 8:

Prolab protein shake(has 6 carbs, is this gonna be a problem?)
10 CLA oil caps (1 gram fat per each cap)

NEED MORE FATS. AND NEEDS TO BE SLOW DIGESTING PRO/FAT MEAL

It's about ~2500-2600 calories..

For the days he doesn't workout, it'll be every meal minus the PWO shake and minus the rice with Meal 6 and it'll be replaced with CLA oil caps...

SO hit me with the feedback boys..
05-18-2004, 05:23 PM
Barbellman

I have some questions about your response

1) Why pro/fat after cardio? I searched and found some topics but the forum seems to be messed up and isn't showing any threads? (sorry, tried to research myself)

2) Should I have him replace CLA with flaxseed oil?

3) What do you suggest for a slower absorbing meal for the end?
05-18-2004, 05:43 PM
daman1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barbellman

I have some questions about your response

1) Why pro/fat after cardio? I searched and found some topics but the forum seems to be messed up and isn't showing any threads? (sorry, tried to research myself)

2) Should I have him replace CLA with flaxseed oil?

3) What do you suggest for a slower absorbing meal for the end?

1. It keeps lipolysis (fat burning) going.

2. Flax is one of the best EFA's!

3. Casein protein and flax is a great one!
05-18-2004, 05:58 PM
SwoleCat

Platinum!

~SC~
05-18-2004, 06:18 PM
Barbellman

Ok here's the new diet:

Workout days:

Meal 1:

8 egg whites
1 tbsp flaxseed oil

Protein: 28g / Fat: 14 / Carbs: 3

Meal 2:

2 95% Lean burger patties on a foreman grill
1 tbsp flaxseed oil

Protein: 60g / Fat: 14+(whatever is left from the burgers) / Carbs: 0

Meal 3:

Prolab protein shake
2 tbsp flaxseed oil

Protein: 30g / Fat: 28g / Carb: 6

Meal 4: (Postworkout)

Problab protein shake
Malto/dex Mix

Protein: 30g / Carb: 60g / Fat: 0g

Meal 5:

2 lemon pepper chicken breasts
1 bag brown rice

Protein: 60g / Carb: 44g / Fat: 0g

Meal 6:

1 lemon pepper chicken breast
1 tbsp flaxseed oil

Non-workout days:

Replace the PWO meal carbs with fats and stay under 2600 calories..

Doing this up with fitday, it came out to 2600 calories. I would add that casein shake but it would go over the calorie limit no? anymore changes you guys?
05-18-2004, 06:56 PM
bad_man

Someone should keep this as an excellent example of how to ask for, listen to, and incorporate advice. Barbellman, you last diet looks pretty right on to me. I may suggest throwing in some other fat sources instead of flax on a few meals. I'd hurl if I had to eat flax every single meal. But that's just me.
05-18-2004, 09:29 PM
daman1

Quote:

Originally Posted by bad_man

Someone should keep this as an excellent example of how to ask for, listen to, and incorporate advice. Barbellman, you last diet looks pretty right on to me. I may suggest throwing in some other fat sources instead of flax on a few meals. I'd hurl if I had to eat flax every single meal. But that's just me.

Ditto