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05-31-2004, 02:07 PM #1
Upping fats question
When reaching a cutting plateau is it possible to just up fats and not decrease any other macros and expect to get through the plateau? If so how is this possible because adding fats and not taking away any other macro would mean more kcals wouldnt it???CAn anyone help me understand this concept?
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05-31-2004, 02:21 PM #2Originally Posted by Beernutz
That would be fine.... keep your other macros where they are and just up the EFA intake a little. Sometimes upping your kcals a by a small ammount can actually be beneficial while trying to lose fat. It has worked for me in the past when I have gotten stuck...
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05-31-2004, 02:26 PM #3Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
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05-31-2004, 05:17 PM #4AR Hall of Fame
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Ideally you do lower either carbs or protein when you up your fats as such.
You are adding more kcals when you just add fats, so that is not going to work.
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05-31-2004, 06:06 PM #5
Exactly. I would say if you are going to raise your EFA's, also lower your carbs. Try to keep your total caloric intake as close to where it is now, so for every gram of fats you add, take away 2 grams of carbs.
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05-31-2004, 06:09 PM #6AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by RockyX
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05-31-2004, 06:12 PM #7
i recently dropped protein to 220g and raised fat to 130g on training days. I think im a little impatient tho with the results because i only changed this a week ago and already i wanna change it again. My carbs are at 150g on training days right now i dunno if that should change. I think i should try to stick to what im doing right now for 1 more week and see where i stand. I currently feel as if im losing muslce mass slowly but i think i have to go to the tape measure for that. I think its all in my head tho, cutting is all mind games i think...
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05-31-2004, 06:18 PM #8AR Hall of Fame
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Stressing is catabolic too.
Best thing to do is to take pics now. Then, 1 week from now or every 2 weeks, take the same exact pics, same location, lighting, etc. Post them here or on the members pics board to see where you are at, and to get critique about what may be going on.
I wonder why more people don't post their pictures???
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05-31-2004, 06:21 PM #9
i have to get my hands on a digi camera. Then ill post my pics. I have to problems with posting pics at all just need the camera. Thanks for the advice.
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05-31-2004, 06:30 PM #10
LOL. Show em my moto!
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05-31-2004, 06:37 PM #11AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by RockyX
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05-31-2004, 07:52 PM #12Originally Posted by Beernutz
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05-31-2004, 09:16 PM #13Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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05-31-2004, 10:05 PM #14AR Hall of Fame
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Yeah, 50 has a diff. appeal and was on mix-tapes and all before any of the others were. 50 is just a cool mutha phucka.
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06-01-2004, 01:54 PM #15Originally Posted by Spoon
pro=217g carb=56g fat=130g on cardio only days.
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06-01-2004, 02:20 PM #16Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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Originally Posted by bad_man
Of course, you have to dodge the shells comin' at'cha N sh*t............lol.......
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06-01-2004, 02:31 PM #18
Ever see Ride with Funkmaster Flex? They made 50's Hummer bulletproof in one episode. That's the one I always see him in. I figure if I waved at him or something he'd run me down or pull his 9 on me.
He really is one jacked mutha. Huge arms.
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06-01-2004, 02:32 PM #19Originally Posted by SwoleCat
LOL....
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06-01-2004, 02:35 PM #20AR Hall of Fame
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I'd give him a shout out and take my chances brutha! I'd make sure I was all pro-tanned and fully carbed up N sh*t.......Just like for a show....... and I'd go outside w/no shirt and my pinstriped jailhouse jeans w/Timberlands and pretend I was tinkering w/my ride.............
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06-01-2004, 02:37 PM #21
OK, you're ****ing with me. I get it.
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06-01-2004, 02:39 PM #22AR Hall of Fame
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Huh???
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06-01-2004, 02:40 PM #23
I thought you were mocking me for mentioning a celebrity sighting. Maybe not.
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06-01-2004, 02:41 PM #24Originally Posted by bad_man
LOL.... you really think Swole is kidding?? Remember this is the guy who flexes before he posts
J/P Swole haha
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06-01-2004, 02:41 PM #25
Focking server... double post.
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06-01-2004, 02:44 PM #26
I never heard him use the word "neat" before.
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Originally Posted by bad_man
I totally believe ya brutha, I wasn't mockin' ya at all. I think it's cooler than sh*t that you get to see what you do. I was just saying I'd be tempted to try and shake his hand, say what's up, etc.
If I doubted ya, I'd say "BULLSH*T"........then u know I'm mocking you.
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06-01-2004, 02:53 PM #28
I knew you believed me, I just thought you were making fun of me for thinking it was a big deal. Anyway, this point is already too big a deal.
As for trying to meet him, that would be hard to do at 90MPH through a residential neighborhood. But I'll give it a shot next time.
BTW Swole, I have to think that given your occupation and geography that you've met your share of celebrities and that you wouldn't sweat over any of them.
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06-01-2004, 03:12 PM #29
Next time he's speeding by, just holler "Murder Inc.", that should get him to stop, just be strapped and ready to run hehe. I agree, I'd have to try and say what's up as well. No harm in trying.
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06-01-2004, 09:36 PM #30Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
Sorry to break the 50 cent Gangsta talk fellas..... But I did have a question. If you did do this to "break through" gettin "stuck" how long would you want to do this? Is this just s short-term fix to get you through and then go back to your original plan or would you stay with this for an extended period of time?? 1 month? 2 months? 3 months??
Thanks Bro's! No you may continue with your regular scheduled programming of "I wanna meet 50 cent" discussion......
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06-01-2004, 09:41 PM #31
I suggest doing it until you hit another sticking point.
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06-01-2004, 09:46 PM #32Originally Posted by sooner45
Well I guess I was wrong.... you would need lower one of your other macros to increase the fats since it would be adding more kcals. I have done it both ways and got good results, but I would think dropping the calories might help more than adding (for obvious reasons) But to answer your question, you would do this until you are done cutting. But honestly, I have found while cutting that I am constantly changing up the macros a little here and there.... they never stay the same for an elongated period of time.
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06-02-2004, 02:51 PM #33
next week im gonna try lowering my kacls via a lower amount of carbs on training days. Pwo will be 30pro and 60g of carbs instead of 40/80 as i been doing. And my ppwo will have 60g of carbs aswell. This will lower my carbs to 120g instead of 150g hopefully this will be the drop that i need. Ill try it and evaluate my results after 2 weeks. Does this sound ok guys? Do you guys know how much dextrose i need to get 60gs of carbs out of it instead of 80. I was using 1/2 cup b4.
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06-02-2004, 02:56 PM #34
Good luck dude. Let's see how it goes.
BTW, 60g of carbs would be 3/8 cup of dextrose.
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06-02-2004, 03:02 PM #35
ya i figured it would be 3/8 i did the math in my head. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks bro ill keep us all posted on what happens.
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