Thread: Cutting, help
06-04-2004, 11:24 AM #1
For me this is a cutting diet. I generally eat like crap every day, and just moving to this I am positive will help. I tried this a few months back, but only kept it up for a month but had lost 10lbs. Suprisingly I still have kept it off. I am good at maintaining weight. Anyways, I think i have the grouping right, I am just not sure about placement. Any help is appreciated.
Well I did it in excel, and it doesnt copy over so hot, so check out the link.
I also plan on doing cardio for 45mins ED when i wakeup on an empty stomach.
I am 6' 212lbs and roughly 15-18% BF
Last edited by Psychotron; 06-04-2004 at 11:28 AM.
06-04-2004, 11:29 AM #2
Congratulations on making the change dude. Here are some suggestions...
Make your first meal after cardio a pro/fat meal. This will help the lipolysis continue.
I think you have too many pro/carb meals. You need more fat. Your carb choices are bad. Don't eat carbs and fat during the same meal.
06-04-2004, 11:34 AM #3
Vitargo CGL by nutrex, ive been using it as my carb source my PWO. Has 10g creatine with it. It's been working great for me. But I am probably changing it to a pure dextrose source soon.
Which carb sources are you referring to? Should I exchange the white rice with like brown rice? Are my veggies good or should I use different ones?
06-04-2004, 11:41 AM #4
I agree that your carbs are too high. I would (Like you stated) switch from white to brown rice. I would lose the skim milk, and the rice in meal 6. There is no reason for any more carbs after your ppwo meal. I also don't think you need rice in your second meal, the longer you go without the introduction of carbs after your cardio, the longer you are burning fat, so I would make meal 2 a pro/fat meal as well. If you HAVE to have the rice, try 1/2 cup instead of a whole cup.
Your fats are too low as well. Fish oil isn't bad, but I would look into some flax, it's just as good, and will give you 14g of fat or so to the tablespoon.
06-04-2004, 11:41 AM #5
Eat as many veggies as you want except carrots, corn, and peas.
white rice -> brown rice
white potato -> yam
But overall, I think you have too many pro/carb meals. Switch some up for some pro/fat meals.
06-04-2004, 01:40 PM #6
Ok what benefits does brown rice offer over white, and same question for yam over baked potato?
06-04-2004, 01:45 PM #7
My suggestions are low on the glycemic index. Yours are high.
06-04-2004, 02:26 PM #8
white rice is a simple carb and brown rice is complex. brown rice breaks down slower and provides you with fiber.
06-04-2004, 02:40 PM #9
Does this look any better? I upped the Fish oil to a tablespoon, cut out the white rice in meal 6, switchted to brown rice. and switched the potato for yams. also got rid of the milk.
Last edited by Psychotron; 06-04-2004 at 03:12 PM.
06-05-2004, 10:47 AM #10
06-05-2004, 11:24 AM #11
It's coming along but I think your fats need to be more in the range of 80-90g and your carbs about 100-150. See if you can revamp it around those numbers. You won't need the carbs in meal 2. You want most of your carbs pwo and ppwo.
06-05-2004, 11:26 AM #12
Hmm.. For some reason I was under the impression I wanted my carbs to be PWO and one of the meals prior to my workout.
Would it be a bad idea to have fish oil with my first meal? The other thing I am thinking is I dont have enough "real food" What would be a good first meal based on the fact that i will be running first thing. Egg whites? Not sure what a good ratio to egg whites to whole eggs would be good.
Last edited by Psychotron; 06-05-2004 at 11:33 AM.
06-05-2004, 05:15 PM #13Originally Posted by Psychotron
06-05-2004, 07:28 PM #14Originally Posted by Psychotron
06-05-2004, 08:04 PM #15
06-05-2004, 08:26 PM #16
I only have two more recommendations.
1) Get rid of the oil at 6pm. You just want a protein (tuna) and a low GI carb (yams). Of course, keep the broccoli.
2) If you can, switch up your last two meals. Using real food as a protein source will allow it to burn more slowly while you sleep.
Otherwise, it looks good to me. Good luck dude.
06-05-2004, 08:30 PM #17
Well, I don't think I want any more chicken in my diet. as of now I think I want to exchange one of the chickens. What would you reccomend as a protein source for my last meal? Perhaps some lean steak?
06-05-2004, 08:32 PM #18
You can have your shake at 8:00 and your chicken at 11:00. This won't add more chicken, just move it around.
Or you can have tuna, salmon, lean beef, egg whites, and on, and on,,,
06-05-2004, 08:41 PM #19
Oh ok, got ya. Alright, appreciate all the help bad_man. I will probably begin this soon. Will keep you updated.
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