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    Arrow Critique my anti-catabolism diet please!

    Alright this is my first time dieting in the 2 1/2 years ive been working out and gaining weight. My bodyfat is estimated around 15 but i am going to check that when my calipers get here. Haven't done cardio in 8 months. I'll be taking Clen for 2 weeks on/2 weeks off.


    Here's current pictures and stats:
    http://www.musclesci.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4316

    AM Cardio
    starting with 20 mins, raising to 45 as soon as possible. Running, incline treadmill or biking. Amino acid pill, Clenbuterol and 5g L-glutamine before cardio.

    Meal 1:
    4 egg whites, 1 yolk, can of tuna, 35g oatmeal
    Pro-51g Carb-27g Fat-8g Calories-350

    Meal 2:
    6 oz. Chicken breast or steak, veggies. Amino acid pill
    Pro-54g Carb-23g Fat-7g Calories-370

    Workout

    Meal 3:
    PWO Nutrition - Protein shake double scoop with 40g dextrose/40g maltodextrin and Amino acid pill
    Pro-46g Carb-85g Fat-3g Calories-550

    Meal 4:
    Can of tuna and 3 oz chicken/steak with 1tbsp flax
    Pro-59g Carb-0g Fat-17g Calories-405

    Meal 5:
    Banana, 6 oz chicken/steak
    Pro-55g Carb-27g Fat-6g Calories-385

    Meal 6:
    Double scoop protein shake with 5g Glutamine and 1/4 cup of peanuts
    Pro-62g Carb-16g Fat-31g Calories-550

    TOTALS
    Protein-327g Carbs-178g Fat-72g Calories-2670

    Supplements-
    Clenbuterol
    Tribulus 1.8g/day
    Biotest M (anti estrogen)
    Multivitamin
    Amino acid pills
    Chromium
    Taurine
    Glutamine
    Flax
    No creatine right?
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    are you sure about meal 1 bro. 1 cup of oatmeal has more kcals and carbs then that. Also i would say your fats are to low i was taking 90g atleast of fat when i was cutting. Also why isnt it possible to do 45 min of cardio right now. Dont start with baby steps. Fu@k that just dive right in and do 45min now. If your current diet doesnt work for you after 2 weeks then i suggest not eating carbs for the first 3 meals post cardio. Make those meals pro/fat if your not happy with the results. I also see that alot of your meals are protein only. Make sure you dont eat protein only meals, make sure its either pro/fat or pro/carbs. Your last meal should be just b4 bed, and that meal should be pro/fat to prevent catabolism while you sleep. Lastly what about non training dayz. You need a game plan for cardio only days aswell. Goodluck.

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    Non training days will just not have the dextrose/maltodextrin in the PWO shake... ill edit this in about an hour
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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    Non training days will just not have the dextrose/maltodextrin in the PWO shake... ill edit this in about an hour
    If its a non training day they there is no such thing as a PWO shake
    no need for those kinda carbs if you dont lift

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    Right... what i meant was "non training days will just not have the dextrose/maltodextrin in the meal 3"

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    dont bother putting htose in your shake bro. . those carbs are useless unless you lift. . or i am just reading it wrong??

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    "non training days will just not have the dextrose/maltodextrin in the meal 3"

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    oh man, ok i got it now. . .on that note, instead of the dex/malto add a fat like flax or almonds, dont have just protein by itslef

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    buuuuump maybe swole cat will give it a look

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    Alright this is my first time dieting in the 2 1/2 years ive been working out and gaining weight. My bodyfat is estimated around 15 but i am going to check that when my calipers get here. Haven't done cardio in 8 months. I'll be taking Clen for 2 weeks on/2 weeks off.


    Here's current pictures and stats:
    http://www.musclesci.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4316

    AM Cardio
    starting with 20 mins, raising to 45 as soon as possible. Running, incline treadmill or biking. Amino acid pill, Clenbuterol and 5g L-glutamine before cardio.
    GO RIGHT TO 45 MINS MAN, ITS NOT HARD TO WALK, WHICH YOU SHOULD BE DOING, B/C RUNNING WILL JUST BURN AWAY YOUR MUSLCE. KEEP YOUR HR BETWEEN 65-75 %

    Meal 1:
    4 egg whites, 1 yolk, can of tuna, 35g oatmeal
    Pro-51g Carb-27g Fat-8g Calories-350
    PRO.FAT MEAL LIKE MENTION, DROP THE OATMEAL AND ADD A FAT

    Meal 2:
    6 oz. Chicken breast or steak, veggies. Amino acid pill
    Pro-54g Carb-23g Fat-7g Calories-370
    NEED A FAT

    Workout

    Meal 3:
    PWO Nutrition - Protein shake double scoop with 40g dextrose/40g maltodextrin and Amino acid pill
    Pro-46g Carb-85g Fat-3g Calories-550
    GOOD

    Meal 4:
    Can of tuna and 3 oz chicken/steak with 1tbsp flax
    Pro-59g Carb-0g Fat-17g Calories-405
    GOOD, BUT YOU WONT NEED THE FLAX IF YOU GO WITH STEAK AND YOU NEED LOW GI CARBS HERE (POTATOES, RICE ECT.)

    Meal 5:
    Banana, 6 oz chicken/steak
    Pro-55g Carb-27g Fat-6g Calories-385
    PHUCK THE BANANA. .AND YOU NEED A FAT HERE

    Meal 6:
    Double scoop protein shake with 5g Glutamine and 1/4 cup of peanuts
    Pro-62g Carb-16g Fat-31g Calories-550
    I WOULD USE A DIFF FAT SOURCE BESIDES PEANUTS RIGHT BEFORE BED LIKE THIS (TOO MANY CARBS)

    TOTALS
    Protein-327g Carbs-178g Fat-72g Calories-2670

    Supplements-
    Clenbuterol
    Tribulus 1.8g/day
    Biotest M (anti estrogen)
    Multivitamin
    Amino acid pills
    Chromium
    Taurine
    Glutamine
    Flax
    No creatine right? YOU CAN HAVE CREATINE IF YOU DONT CARE ABOUT A LIL WATER BLOAT
    SH!T IS THAT THE KINDA CRITIQUE YOU WANTED??. . THERE ARE OTHERS ON HERE BESIDES SWOLE WHO KNOW THERE SH!T
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalcowbag
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    SH!T IS THAT THE KINDA CRITIQUE YOU WANTED??. . THERE ARE OTHERS ON HERE BESIDES SWOLE WHO KNOW THERE SH!T



    No way there are????


    Who??


    <<LMO>>

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    Also.... I agree with dalcowbag's critique.

    For meal 4 however, which is PPWO you need carbs. Add some brown rice and drop the steak just use chicken breast for the protein source.

    <<LMO>>

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    Jesus dalcowbag, no offense intended man. I appreciate the critiquing and i will make the necessary changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    No way there are????


    Who??


    <<LMO>>
    lol. . .daman

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    Jesus dalcowbag, no offense intended man. I appreciate the critiquing and i will make the necessary changes.
    YOU BETTER MAKE THOSE D&MN CHANGES!!!!!!!!. . .lol sry for flippin bro, its not you i think i am just upset b/c my source is dickin' me around lol

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