Combining Fats and Carbs

**big4nuthin** · 06-22-2004, 05:16 PM

Could someone please explain to me the reason why you dont mix the two in a meal. Also, would that include healthy fats. Fr example would it be ok to eat baked salmon w/white rice? Almonds with oatmeal? Olive oil pesto with wheat noodles? thanks is advance to all who reply.

**Demon Deacon** · 06-22-2004, 05:32 PM

You dont mix the two because carbs spike insulin levels. If you take fat in at the same time as carbs the elevated insulin in your body will start to deposit the fat on your body instead of burning it for fuel. When you eat a meal with fats; those are healthy fats that we are talking about. So i wouldnt mix salmon with rice. In fact if you are going to eat rice i would eat brown rice and not the white.

**fritz2435** · 06-23-2004, 03:18 PM

do a search bud

**bad_man** · 06-23-2004, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Demon Deacon

You dont mix the two because carbs spike insulin levels. If you take fat in at the same time as carbs the elevated insulin in your body will start to deposit the fat on your body instead of burning it for fuel. When you eat a meal with fats; those are healthy fats that we are talking about. So i wouldnt mix salmon with rice. In fact if you are going to eat rice i would eat brown rice and not the white.

Studies have shown that a combination of fat and carbs actually have a synergistic effect on insullin secretion.

synergy: The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.

**Demon Deacon** · 06-23-2004, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by bad_man

Studies have shown that a combination of fat and carbs actually have a synergistic effect on insullin secretion.

synergy: The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.

Thats not a good thing in this case correct. Since the increased insulin would deposit more of that fat?

**bad_man** · 06-23-2004, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Demon Deacon

Thats not a good thing in this case correct. Since the increased insulin would deposit more of that fat?

Correct.

**SaTyR** · 06-25-2004, 11:53 AM

Are we talking here about ZERO fat with carbs ?

I mean if you have a meal lets say

Protein 80g
Carbs 75g

Fat 5g

Is this also bad ?

**SaTyR** · 06-26-2004, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by SaTyR

Are we talking here about ZERO fat with carbs ?

I mean if you have a meal lets say

Protein 80g
Carbs 75g

Fat 5g

Is this also bad ?

Anyone ???

**Aboot** · 06-26-2004, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by SaTyR

Are we talking here about ZERO fat with carbs ?

I mean if you have a meal lets say

Protein 80g
Carbs 75g

Fat 5g

Is this also bad ?

It's nearly impossible to have a meal with absolutely no fat and then also carbs. You will always have some fat. What the above is talking about is taking essential fatty acids at the same time as having a carb meal (like oatmeal, etc.). Basically, don't mix your serving of flax seed oil with your potatoes.

**Elliot** · 06-26-2004, 08:16 AM

how can you possibly digest that much food?!

**SaTyR** · 06-26-2004, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Aboot

It's nearly impossible to have a meal with absolutely no fat and then also carbs. You will always have some fat. What the above is talking about is taking essential fatty acids at the same time as having a carb meal (like oatmeal, etc.). Basically, don't mix your serving of flax seed oil with your potatoes.

I still don't get it .
Would this be a (nono) meal.

kcal pro carb fat
Beef 230 44 0 6
Beans 532 40 86 3
Ketchup 32 0 8 0

**SwoleCat** · 06-26-2004, 10:01 AM

What beef are you using that has 44 grams of pro and only 6 grams of fat?
H*ll, use 4% ground beef and that still has 9-10 grams of fat per 45-50 protein. Doesn't get leaner than that.

Ketchup is sugar.

~SC~

**Elliot** · 06-26-2004, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

What beef are you using that has 44 grams of pro and only 6 grams of fat?
H*ll, use 4% ground beef and that still has 9-10 grams of fat per 45-50 protein. Doesn't get leaner than that.

Ketchup is sugar.

~SC~

unless you boil then formen the bitch.. it might cut like a gram or soo of..

**Nino99GT** · 06-26-2004, 06:23 PM

So if you ever eat salmon, you should just eat it by itself either before bed or pre- workout?

**dalcowbag** · 06-26-2004, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Nino99GT

So if you ever eat salmon, you should just eat it by itself either before bed or pre- workout?

well salmon has 10 grams fat per 3oz. . .so it should work as a pro/fat meal all by itself

**tonight** · 06-26-2004, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

What beef are you using that has 44 grams of pro and only 6 grams of fat?
H*ll, use 4% ground beef and that still has 9-10 grams of fat per 45-50 protein. Doesn't get leaner than that.

Ostrich steak is a super lean meat, but I doubt that was what he was referring to. My grocer used to carry it but now they don't so I've got to buy it online. Great stuff if you can get your hands on it plus it cooks quick.

**SaTyR** · 06-27-2004, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by tonight

Ostrich steak is a super lean meat, but I doubt that was what he was referring to. My grocer used to carry it but now they don't so I've got to buy it online. Great stuff if you can get your hands on it plus it cooks quick.

I dont have the translation from dutch to english , but if you translate it , it would sound like this .

Beefsteak. (Biefstuk in dutch)

I got it from this calorietabel.

http://www.dieetplaza.nl/cal/calorietabel.php?idd=b