Should I keep doing this when I start my cycle?

**Shrad6** · 06-26-2004, 10:33 PM

Ok before you say it yes I'm "That guy" who screwed up by stopped going to the gym, eating a whole lot of fast food and now I'm paying for it. I now have a big ass gut with some man boobs. I'm just getting back into the gym and dieting with 2600 calories (high protein, moderate carbs and low fat). I know this diet works for me on fat loss and lean gain cause I did it for a couple weeks a few months back. I'm going to do this for a few weeks with some hardcore working out and am & pm cardio. My stats are 5'8 184lbs and 21%bf (I used the calc on the homepage). I'm going to do this for a few weeks then start my next cycle, which is:

Weeks 1-12 EQ @ 500mgs
Weeks 2-12 Test E @ 500 mgs
Clomids

Now my real question is when I start my cycle how do I adjust my diet to get the most of my cycle? When I say the most I mean as much muscle, size, strength with minimal gain in bf. How much cardio should I do to not hinder my gains?

**mark956101957** · 06-26-2004, 10:35 PM

I think you would be better served to get back in shape, lose fat, before taking gear..imo

**dalcowbag** · 06-27-2004, 02:12 AM

ya bro. . i would suggest checking out the cutting sticky and maybe go natty cutting for a couple months IMO. but either way def check out the cutting sticky, construct a diet and then post it so we canhelp ya out

**SwoleCat** · 06-27-2004, 08:17 AM

If you are that out of shape, the gear should be saved until after you get yourself together naturally.

~SC~

**Shrad6** · 06-30-2004, 08:49 PM

I know, but I wanted to try and look good for my vacation in 4-5 months. I know everyone is different, but estimated how long would it take someone to go from 21%bf to around 15%bf with a hardcore diet and working out?

**LeanMeOut** · 06-30-2004, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Shrad6

I know, but I wanted to try and look good for my vacation in 4-5 months. I know everyone is different, but estimated how long would it take someone to go from 21%bf to around 15%bf with a hardcore diet and working out?

4-5 monts worth of strict diet and cardio and you can probably get down there if not lower. But I wouldn't mess with gear to attain it, wait until after. Instead use a thermogenic (ECA, Clen , Green Tea etc...) and get your diet down and start hitting up that cardio. In 4 months you can drastically change your bodyshape.

<<LMO>>

**Mealticket** · 06-30-2004, 09:14 PM

I think you're daily caloric content is too high. I weigh about 30 lb's more than you, have around 12% BF and my BMR is 2800 a day; and i have a ridiculous high metabolism. When i was dropping weight back in the first part of my season my intake was around 2500 w/ about 2 hrs of sports and weight training daily

**Shrad6** · 07-03-2004, 04:12 PM

Well I have no clue the diet guru's would have to comment on if its to high this was setup for me by a bodybuilding/diet place. I tired it a couple months ago for a few weeks and I noticed my wieght was slowly coming off and I was leaning out a lot more and quicker then any other time I tried to drop fat. I guess I'll do it the right way and drop bf first then start up the gear.