What would I lose?

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06-29-2004, 05:59 AM
StevePJC

What would I lose?

Was wondering what could I concievably lose as far as muscle on this diet.

I'm 6'1" 313 pounds. Back training with weights again after many years off. Former heavy gear user.

If it would help I will post a complete meal plan. For now I'll give the basics.

1645 calories, 324g protien, 216 calories from fat.

Am wanting to drop as much flab as possible in 4 weeks.

Training looks like this
Mon - Chest, shoulders, tri's 30 minutes cardio
Tue - Bi's, traps 30 minutes cardio
Wed - 45 minutes cardio morning and night
Thurs - Chest, Quads 30 minutes cardio
Fri - Hams, calves, back 30 minutes cardio

Am riding a bike around the base runway where I live in the mornings before breakfast. Miles is 5. Just started this yesterday morning.
06-29-2004, 06:54 AM
SwoleCat

Probably a lot seeing as your Kcals are lower than those of my wife's!

Unless you are like 50% b.f., you'll want to re-vamp that.

~SC~

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevePJC

Was wondering what could I concievably lose as far as muscle on this diet.

I'm 6'1" 313 pounds. Back training with weights again after many years off. Former heavy gear user.

If it would help I will post a complete meal plan. For now I'll give the basics.

1645 calories, 324g protien, 216 calories from fat.

Am wanting to drop as much flab as possible in 4 weeks.

Training looks like this
Mon - Chest, shoulders, tri's 30 minutes cardio
Tue - Bi's, traps 30 minutes cardio
Wed - 45 minutes cardio morning and night
Thurs - Chest, Quads 30 minutes cardio
Fri - Hams, calves, back 30 minutes cardio

Am riding a bike around the base runway where I live in the mornings before breakfast. Miles is 5. Just started this yesterday morning.
06-29-2004, 07:04 AM
StevePJC

I wouldn't be surprised if I was close to 50%

I posted pictures here http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=108132

I had a plan laid out that gave me 2000 calories and 400g of protein but a buddy of mine was preaching that even at my size I cant take more than 50g protien in one sitting. Severely confused. Thank you for your input though.
06-29-2004, 07:27 AM
StevePJC

Incase it helps anyone who wants to offer criticism, this is the food plan I have laid out.

Breakfast 7am
Food Protein Calories Fat Cal
5 Servings Egg Whites 15 25 0
1 Protein Shake 40 200 18

Meal #2 10am
1 Can Tuna (Large) 65 300 30

Meal #3 12pm
1 Protien bar 29 280 70

Meal #4 3pm
1 Can Tuna 65 300 30

Meal #5 *SUPPER*
2 chicken breasts 40 200 40
Canned Veggie
1 Serving Shrimp 30 140 10

Meal # 6 10pm
Protien Shake 40 200 18

Total Protien 324
Total Calories 1645
Fat Calories 216
06-29-2004, 07:33 AM
SwoleCat

U have canned veggies, where are the Kcals from those carbs?

Tuna alone or any form of protein alone is not a good idea. U need fat w/those meals. In the absence of carbs, fat in = fat out. No fat ingested, the body will NOT let go of any, but you will however burn the lean mass you DO have for fuel, thus setting you back further.

Check the cutting sticky atop the page, and draw up a plan of attack from there. Additionally, your days IN they gym will have one meal breakdown, while days you are OUT of the gym will yield a diff. breakdown. (Gym meaning weights, not cardio) Cardio has to be a staple a.m.

~SC~
06-29-2004, 07:45 AM
StevePJC

I'm probably gonna get cyberslapped for this. I dont know what a kcal is. Plenty of references for this in doing a search but cannot find one that tells me what it is.

What is a kcal?
06-29-2004, 07:53 AM
SwoleCat

Calories.

~SC~
06-29-2004, 07:53 AM
dalcowbag

kcal=calories
06-29-2004, 07:57 AM
SwoleCat

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalcowbag

kcal=calories

Tardy = late.

:D

~SC~
06-29-2004, 07:59 AM
dalcowbag

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Tardy = late.

:D

~SC~

56k swole. . .gimmie some slack:(
06-29-2004, 08:00 AM
StevePJC

Just looking for opinions then on this one. What do people believe the maximum intake *EDIT* for protien in one sitting. Does bodysize have anything to do with it?

When I was heavy in the gym years ago during my gear days I ate like a machine. Thing was I didn't diet at all. Just ate whatever. Protien intake in a day was probably 5-800g.

My goal is just to drop bodyfat to get healthy. I have a little over half of my strength from those days natural now. I'm not looking to compete or put on any weight. I mainly want to keep my strength and drop pounds. I've read countless diets on here and my eyes are crossed from it. :)
06-29-2004, 08:02 AM
dalcowbag

just read the cutting sticky a couple times and it will click and you'll be able to put together a great diet
06-29-2004, 08:02 AM
SwoleCat

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalcowbag

56k swole. . .gimmie some slack:(

J/K bro, I know, that is why I was f*ckin' w/you.........

;)

~SC~
06-29-2004, 09:15 AM
bad_man

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevePJC

Just looking for opinions then on this one. What do people believe the maximum intake *EDIT* for protien in one sitting. Does bodysize have anything to do with it?

When I was heavy in the gym years ago during my gear days I ate like a machine. Thing was I didn't diet at all. Just ate whatever. Protien intake in a day was probably 5-800g.

My goal is just to drop bodyfat to get healthy. I have a little over half of my strength from those days natural now. I'm not looking to compete or put on any weight. I mainly want to keep my strength and drop pounds. I've read countless diets on here and my eyes are crossed from it. :)

Hey dude, first, welcome to the diet forum.

To answer your question about the amount of protein in one sitting, that is a really hard question to answer (and it's one that gets asked A LOT). It depends on your total lean body mass, yoru testosterone levels, insullin, T3, T4, and so on..... Some people may be able to metabolize 100g per sitting while others may only handle 20. 40-60g would probably be a good starting point.

I hope that helps.
06-29-2004, 09:47 AM
slizzut

Quote:

Originally Posted by bad_man

Hey dude, first, welcome to the diet forum.

To answer your question about the amount of protein in one sitting, that is a really hard question to answer (and it's one that gets asked A LOT). It depends on your total lean body mass, yoru testosterone levels, insullin, T3, T4, and so on..... Some people may be able to metabolize 100g per sitting while others may only handle 20. 40-60g would probably be a good starting point.

I hope that helps.

I agree, anywhere from 40-60grams of protein per sitting. Also.. are you doing cardio in the AM on an empty stomach? If not, I suggest you do for 45-60 mins at 65-75% Heart Rate.
06-29-2004, 10:41 AM
dalcowbag

Quote:

Originally Posted by slizzut

I agree, anywhere from 40-60grams of protein per sitting. Also.. are you doing cardio in the AM on an empty stomach? If not, I suggest you do for 45-60 mins at 65-75% Heart Rate.

ditto man. . you dont want to be doing cardio right after your lift. Or you can kiss you muscle goodbye:hello:
06-29-2004, 12:08 PM
TRIBOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalcowbag

ditto man. . you dont want to be doing cardio right after your lift. Or you can kiss you muscle goodbye:hello:

this statement is 100% true! i learned this the hard way & set me back a while.

TrIBOL