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07-23-2004, 01:33 PM
)(PimP JuicE)(

flame my diet up, flame flame flame.

Ok, im on week 2 of cycle, dbol & test E. sure as hell not cutting, so i guess you could say i am bulking, want all the lean muscle i can get out of my cycle. I dont mind a little fat, but i sure dont want to go up a notch in my belt... 197lbs 11% 6'1 20yrs old, here goes.

Breakfast
6-7 eggs whites cup oats. (all i can eat)...2 cups coffee.

2-2.5 hrs later
grilled chicken sandwich, bottom bun only, and a potato or a small salad.

2-2.5 hr later
usually only a grilled chicken sandwich. (was wondering if a double hamburger with one or no bun would be fine right here by it self, maybe with a salad?) or what is below...
about 3 tablespoons naty peanut butter and 1-2 oz of turky pastromi. 11g protein every oz.

W\O

ablout 3-3.5 hr from last meal
PWO shake, 50g protein:100g dex

1hr later

usually 14oz steak (NY strip) and sweet potato or reg potato and greens.

2hr later
night protein shake 40g and 1 tablespoon flax.

been doin this for a while, dont think its that strict or anything. just the basics i guess hell i dont know. input would be cool, DCB, LMO, Swole...thanks.
07-23-2004, 01:44 PM
CutMeUp

I know you are looking for DCB,LMO, and SC, but in the mean time here is my opinion....

Forget about the double hamburger, even if it isnt a fast food burger its got fat that you dont need. If you are going to use the natty PB then theres your fat, so just stick with the chicken and turkey. I also advice agains sandwiches. I mean why do u need that bread. Im sure it isnt WW bread either.

For the PPWO meal you could probably find a leaner cut than NY Strip. Also maybe some starchy pasta, at least mix it up with the potatoes.

Also make sure you keep the salad or some other fibrous greens around.

Lets see where my advice stacks up next to the gurus :wg:
07-23-2004, 01:56 PM
LeanMeOut

CAPS...

Quote:

Originally Posted by )(PimP JuicE)(

Ok, im on week 2 of cycle, dbol & test E. sure as hell not cutting, so i guess you could say i am bulking, want all the lean muscle i can get out of my cycle. I dont mind a little fat, but i sure dont want to go up a notch in my belt... 197lbs 11% 6'1 20yrs old, here goes.

Breakfast
6-7 eggs whites cup oats. (all i can eat)...2 cups coffee.

NEED MORE PROTEIN HERE..... ADD MORE WHITES OR ADD A SCOOP OF PROTEIN POWDER

2-2.5 hrs later
grilled chicken sandwich, bottom bun only, and a potato or a small salad.

NO NEED FOR CARBS HERE.... MAKE THIS A PRO/FAT MEAL.

2-2.5 hr later
usually only a grilled chicken sandwich. (was wondering if a double hamburger with one or no bun would be fine right here by it self, maybe with a salad?) or what is below...
about 3 tablespoons naty peanut butter and 1-2 oz of turky pastromi. 11g protein every oz.

NO MIXING FATS W/ CARBS EVEN WHEN BULKING. KEEP THE NATTY PB W/ THE CHICKEN BREAST THATS IT.

W\O

ablout 3-3.5 hr from last meal
PWO shake, 50g protein:100g dex

FINE

1hr later

usually 14oz steak (NY strip) and sweet potato or reg potato and greens.

THIS STEAK NEEDS TO BE VERY LEAN..... YOU DON'T WANT FAT IN THIS MEAL.

2hr later
night protein shake 40g and 1 tablespoon flax.

FINE

been doin this for a while, dont think its that strict or anything. just the basics i guess hell i dont know. input would be cool, DCB, LMO, Swole...thanks.

You really need more meals in this outline or your kcals for the day will fall short. Check out the new bulking sticky and try to outline your diet more like that one, then re-create this diet again and we will go from there ;)

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07-23-2004, 02:03 PM
RockyX

Quote:

Originally Posted by CutMeUp

I know you are looking for DCB,LMO, and SC, but in the mean time here is my opinion....

Forget about the double hamburger, even if it isnt a fast food burger its got fat that you dont need. If you are going to use the natty PB then theres your fat, so just stick with the chicken and turkey. I also advice agains sandwiches. I mean why do u need that bread. Im sure it isnt WW bread either.

For the PPWO meal you could probably find a leaner cut than NY Strip. Also maybe some starchy pasta, at least mix it up with the potatoes.

Also make sure you keep the salad or some other fibrous greens around.

Lets see where my advice stacks up next to the gurus :wg:

Seems like some sound advice. The buns every once in a while won't hurt too bad considering you are bulking, but if you eat them every day, they will come back to haunt you. Especially if you mix them in with two fatty fatty fat fat hamburgers. It wouldn't be bad to throw some more EFA's in there either. Will lead to lean gains and give you extra calories for your bulker at the same time....just something to think about :unsure:
07-23-2004, 02:04 PM
LeanMeOut

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyX

Seems like some sound advice. The buns every once in a while won't hurt too bad considering you are bulking, but if you eat them every day, they will come back to haunt you. Especially if you mix them in with two fatty fatty fat fat hamburgers. It wouldn't be bad to throw some more EFA's in there either. Will lead to lean gains and give you extra calories for your bulker at the same time....just something to think about :unsure:

Good advice Rock ;)

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07-23-2004, 04:07 PM
RockyX

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeanMeOut

Good advice Rock ;)

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Thanks bro, feelin' the love :afro:
07-23-2004, 04:41 PM
)(PimP JuicE)(

LMO you said no mixing fats and carbs, i didnt. maybe you misunderstood. the question in quotes () those things was somthing i was wondering about, the double hamburger with one or no bun... anyways for the rest i am trying to figure it all out right now. ill post it in a little
07-23-2004, 05:13 PM
)(PimP JuicE)(

M1 830: 6-7 egg whites cup oats scoop protein 425cals
M2:1030: can tuna, tabeslpoon flax 186K
M3:1230: chicken breast, handfull peanuts, tablespon PB(2?). 484cals
M4:230: can tuna, tablespoon flax 186cals
WO 3or330
430: PWO shake 540cals
M5:530-6 PPWO lean cut steak, sweet potato, vegies(esparagus) any sug. on how many Kcals?
M6:730-8 4 reg eggs 2 pieces bacon
1100 nightly shake 50g protein tablespoon flax 1tbs PB 348cals

what do you think. i want to end up with at least a total of 4000 cals
07-23-2004, 08:30 PM
dalcowbag

CAPS BRAH

Quote:

Originally Posted by )(PimP JuicE)(

M1 830: 6-7 egg whites cup oats scoop protein 425cals
I STILL THINK YOU NEED MORE PROTEIN, LIKE LMO SAID ADD A SCOOP OF WHEY HERE, YOU ARE ON GEAR SO YOUR BODY IS GONNA USE IT
M2:1030: can tuna, tabeslpoon flax 186K
JUST PUT ALL THAT IN A BLENDER AND YOU GOT A GOOD OLE' KOOTER SHOOTER
M3:1230: chicken breast, handfull peanuts, tablespon PB(2?). 484cals
GOOD, STICK WITH ONE FAT SOURCE
M4:230: can tuna, tablespoon flax 186cals
GOOD
WO 3or330
430: PWO shake 540cals
M5:530-6 PPWO lean cut steak, sweet potato, vegies(esparagus) any sug. on how many Kcals?
I WOULD DROP THE SIRLOIN ALL TOGETHER, EVEN THE LEANEST CUTS FO STEAK HAVE 7-8 GRAMS OF FAT IN 3 OZ, SO GO WITH A CHICKEN BREAST
M6:730-8 4 reg eggs 2 pieces bacon
TOO MUCH FAT AND NOT ENOUGH PROTEIN MAN, DRO THE BACON AND ADD 6 MORE EGGWHITES
1100 nightly shake 50g protein tablespoon flax 1tbs PB 348cals
GOOD
what do you think. i want to end up with at least a total of 4000 cals

OVERALL MAN IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD, I THINK YOU COULD AFFORD TO USE MORE PROTEIN, AND DEF TRY TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE FOR THAT STEAK. . BEEF BUILDS BEEF!!!!

DCB
07-23-2004, 10:32 PM
)(PimP JuicE)(

CHANGES IN CAPS

Quote:

Originally Posted by )(PimP JuicE)(

M1 9: 6 egg whites, cup oats, scoop protein
M2:1130 2 canS tuna, 2 TBS PB
M3:2: STEAK(LEAN CUT TOP ROUND)/ OR LEAN GROUND BEEF
W/O 3or330
M4:415 PWO shake, 90C:45P
M5:530 2 CHICKEN BREASTS, POTATO OR CUP RICE, VEGGIES.
M6:8 TUNA, 1TBS FLAX, 1 SCOOP PROTEIN.
M7:Nightly shake 3 SCOOP PROTEIN, 1.5 TBS FLAX
what do you think. i want to end up with at least a total of 4000 cals
07-24-2004, 06:39 AM
dalcowbag

Looks great bro. . but one small small change.. . meal 2 has alot fo protein in it. so eat a can and half of tuna in meal 2 and then eat the other 1/2 can with meal 6 (then you wont need the scoop of whey) but it looks good, so good luck with it!!

DCB
07-24-2004, 09:36 AM
)(PimP JuicE)(

awsume, ill do that dcb, thanks for the help brah.