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    Sugars after workout, and when taking supps

    Hey guys
    I used to workout and not eat any simple sugars. However I recently (month ago) started adding these to my diet for protein intake and whenever I take supplements, vitamins etc. Example, if I take a vitamin I will drink a coke with it. If I am drinking a protein shake, I dont use the sugarfree or low sugar kind. I have noticed substantial energy increase and strength increase when working out since the change.

    So while it may seem obvious due to the results, can I attribute the results to this? I havent changed anything else.

    Does this sound right?

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    Sounds bad to me. But im not exactly a diet expert, Im just a novice trying to learn in that area. But anyway, just use dextrose with your PWO shake and your good to go.
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    40 grams of protein and 80 grams of dextrose in your post workout shake. PWO shake and your PPWO meal should make up the majority of your carbs.

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    My thought on this is sugar is sugar is sugar, whether its dextrose, fructose, sucrose, its all nutrientless simple carbohydrates.

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    But dextrose PWO is turned into glucose almost immediately and shuttled to the muscles you worked out. Other carbs have to go through more work to be converted to glucose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    But dextrose PWO is turned into glucose almos immediately and shuttled to the muscles you worked out. Other carbs have to go through more work to be converted to glucose.
    Well not glucose. It is already glucose. Isn't sugar glucose? I am not being synical I am just asking, I am not sure on that.

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    From what i understand dextrose is pretty much powdered glucose. But other things like high-fructose corn syrup needs to go through more than dextrose to be changed into glucose. Thus taking longer time to be absorbed and shuttled to your muscles in need of glucose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Well not glucose. It is already glucose. Isn't sugar glucose? I am not being synical I am just asking, I am not sure on that.
    well not all sugars go to repair muscle gycogen. exp. frcutose from fruit goes to repair liver stores


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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    From what i understand dextrose is pretty much powdered glucose. But other things like high-fructose corn syrup needs to go through more than dextrose to be changed into glucose. Thus taking longer time to be absorbed and shuttled to your muscles in need of glucose.
    Yeah, let me rephrase, soda would be a bad choose, but is table sugar glucose or sucrose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalcowbag
    well not all sugars go to repair muscle gycogen. exp. frcutose from fruit goes to repair liver stores


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    Learn something new everyday, cool. What about table sugar, is that glucose or sucrose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Yeah, let me rephrase, soda would be a bad choose, but is table sugar glucose or sucrose?
    sucrose is table sugar (glucose + fructose)


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    Quote Originally Posted by dalcowbag
    sucrose is table sugar (glucose + fructose)


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    So why is dextrose prefered over sugar, if sugar is already glucose?

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    Dextrose is pretty much pure glucose, not a mix. Just like why whey isolate is prefferred over whey concentrate and isolate blends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    So why is dextrose prefered over sugar, if sugar is already glucose?
    dex is a pure glucose, a monosaccharide.
    table sugar however does have glucose in it, but is mostly fructose(a disaccharide), which gives it the very sweet taste


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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    Dextrose is pretty much pure glucose.
    Not arguing, just trying to understand. Dextrose is converted in to glucose. Table sugar is already glucose, mixed with fructose, so why not just use table sugar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalcowbag
    dex is a pure glucose, a monosaccharide.
    table sugar however does have glucose in it, but is mostly fructose(a disaccharide), which gives it the very sweet taste


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    OK Thats makes sense, I never used Dextrose, I need to get some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    OK Thats makes sense, I never used Dextrose, I need to get some.
    very good to have bro, IMO the most important meal of the day

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalcowbag
    very good to have bro, IMO the most important meal of the day

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    Anyone got a good source? I remember reading a post where someone had one posted but I have no idea which thread it was in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Anyone got a good source? I remember reading a post where someone had one posted but I have no idea which thread it was in.
    www.kentnutrition.com best prices on the web, great customer service, great product. it even comes with a lil scooper to measure out 10 grams of carbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalcowbag
    www.kentnutrition.com best prices on the web, great customer service, great product. it even comes with a lil scooper to measure out 10 grams of carbs

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    Thanks bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalcowbag
    www.kentnutrition.com best prices on the web, great customer service, great product. it even comes with a lil scooper to measure out 10 grams of carbs

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    kentnutrition, 10lbs of dextrose $9.49 ($0.95 cents/lb)

    supplementdirect.com, 50lbs of dextrose $39.99 ($0.80 cents/lb)

    butcher-packer.com, dextrose $0.65 cents/lb

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    I'd only trust Kentnutrition myself out off all those three!

    SD has been wrong in their labeling of products for years, so it makes me wonder if the products are really what they lay claim to be.

    ~SC~

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    Thanks bros for all the info...I am going to order some dextrose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Not arguing, just trying to understand. Dextrose is converted in to glucose. Table sugar is already glucose, mixed with fructose, so why not just use table sugar?
    It isn't 'mixed'.. fructose is BONDED to glucose... to form sucrose.. i.e. to be converted to glucose, the sucrose would have to be broken down one step.Whereas dextrose, being glucose, would not have to be broken down.. rather, it'd be assimilated almost immediately.

    'Dextrose to sucrose' isn't disimilar to the relationship of 'amino acids to protein'...

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