Diet for getting lean first, whilst also putting on muscle

[Flexor]

I have a mate that is starting out bodybuilding, but he wants to go on a mass building diet that will also help him to lose weight. He has 15.5" arms, but lean I would say he was probably a 13" arm.

Is the right diet, a high protein one low in fat with a reasonable amount of carbohydrate?

Would that help cut off the fat but put on muscle. If so, he would actually get smaller arms first and then they would get bigger but is that the right type of diet?

Thanks for any help...

At the moment I'm on a high protein diet of about 100-120 grams of protein a day and probably about 3000 calories

[co2boi]

I know you're new bro, so it's excusable....use the search tool or look at the stickys in the diet forum

[Flexor]

That's a good point, it just seemed like everything else wasn't quite what I was looking for

Anyway forget it now

[SwoleCat]

At the moment I'm on a high protein diet of about 100-120 grams of protein a day

Unless you weigh 90 lbs. this is far from a high protein diet.

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[co2boi]

That means you get over 2600 calories from carbs and fat? Def do some research man.

[Flexor]

Unless you weigh 90 lbs. this is far from a high protein diet.

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Firstly, I don't work in pounds. Secondly I weigh 60kg, so 2g per kg is plenty for what I am doing since I am not exercising heavily.

As for 2600 calories from carbs and fat, that is true. 120g x 4 calories per g = 480 calories from protein. But there ya go, I'm only 17 so I'm allowed to eat muffins for breakfast

In my opinion everyone overconsumes protein. I gain a quarter of an inch of muscle every month. People I know have easily reached 16" arms without steroids and just by working hard and eating a normal diet consisting of plenty of meat and dairy. I agree that people that do hours of hard lifting and cardio do need a lot of protein though

[co2boi]

Ok, so 60kg = 132 pounds, so you are still eating less than 1 gram per pound and no that isn't enough unless you just want to maintain 60 kg.

[SwoleCat]

Firstly, I don't work in pounds. Secondly I weigh 60kg, so 2g per kg is plenty for what I am doing since I am not exercising heavily.

Oh, since you know it all already, then I'll refrain from further offerings. I thought you came here to ask questions and receive help.

Silly me.



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[Flexor]

Ok, so 60kg = 132 pounds, so you are still eating less than 1 gram per pound and no that isn't enough unless you just want to maintain 60 kg.

Sorry i added comments to my previous message thinking no one had posted.

Ok how much should I eat per pound, considering I am 17 and workout every other day?

According to Edmund R. Burke, PhD, "Athletes who exercise for several hours at a time can actualy lose msucle mass because they burn a high percentage of protein for fuel. To help maintain muscle mass these athletes may benefit from up to 1 gram of protein for every pound of body weight"

Now I'm no athlete, but i'm having 1 gram, I don't understand all these conflicting sources

[SwoleCat]

Ok, so 60kg = 132 pounds, so you are still eating less than 1 gram per pound and no that isn't enough unless you just want to maintain 60 kg.

Thanks for stating the obvious, I've lost energy. You try to help, then you have those looking for assistance, correct YOU!

What do we know anyhow?



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[co2boi]

Sorry i added comments to my previous message thinking no one had posted.

Ok how much should I eat per pound, considering I am 17 and workout every other day?

According to Edmund R. Burke, PhD, "Athletes who exercise for several hours at a time can actualy lose msucle mass because they burn a high percentage of protein for fuel. To help maintain muscle mass these athletes may benefit from up to 1 gram of protein for every pound of body weight"

Now I'm no athlete, but i'm having 1 gram, I don't understand all these conflicting sources

Man, thanks for changing your attitutude and I definitely understand your frustration / confusion but that's just way too big of a question to address when the same answers are all over the place. Not being deragatory, just honest.

Until you do some research and learn A LOT, just try to find a starting point. A good one for me was 40/40/20. protein / carbs / fat. Eat clean and adjust your diet as you grow physically and mentally

[slizzut]

This thread is outrageous

[Blown_SC]

Couple questions...

You are 132lbs, and gain a 1/4" of muscle each month?

You must be like 3 feet tall bro... and jakt!

[SwoleCat]

This thread is outrageous

This thread is downright phucking ignorance/arrogance ridden.

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