Peanut Butter

**.45Caliber** · 08-30-2004, 01:46 PM

Why is peant butter so popular among bb's and pl's. Also, there are so many different kinds with different amounts of sugars. I know the ones to use are the original ones with the oil on top.

**Lozgod** · 08-30-2004, 01:57 PM

Well fat is important for alot of reasons in any diet. Without getting in to all of that, peanut butter offers the best possible fat, it is monounsaturated, which is the most healthy fat of all, plus it is not that high in sugar if it is natural PB also it is a decent source of protien.

**angelxterminator** · 08-30-2004, 02:02 PM

that and when your cutting natty pb is the SHIZNAT.... i can't stop at 2 tbsp

**co2boi** · 08-30-2004, 02:08 PM

Peanut Butter is basically the "perfect food". It may give you cotton mouth like a mofo, but if I had one food to choose on my deserted island, that would be it.

**Lozgod** · 08-30-2004, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by co2boi

Peanut Butter is basically the "perfect food". It may give you cotton mouth like a mofo, but if I had one food to choose on my deserted island, that would be it.

I would choose whole milk. Perfect balance of carbs, fat, and protein.

**Soldier of Misfortune** · 08-30-2004, 02:14 PM

I would choose turducken. Turkey stuffed with a duck stuffed with a chicken stuffed with stuffing. Maybe I would stuff that in a pig then stuff the pig in an angus...

**Lozgod** · 08-30-2004, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Soldier of Misfortune

I would choose turducken. Turkey stuffed with a duck stuffed with a chicken stuffed with stuffing. Maybe I would stuff that in a pig then stuff the pig in an angus...

Yeah but where are you going to get you protein.

**khurrams** · 08-30-2004, 02:45 PM

I mix a table spoon of PB in my PWO shake......yummyyy

**LeanMeOut** · 08-30-2004, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by khurrams

I mix a table spoon of PB in my PWO shake......yummyyy

Horrible idea.......you want fast digesting protein/carbs here not fat which slows down digestion.

<<LMO>>

**brian11** · 08-30-2004, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by LeanMeOut

Horrible idea.......you want fast digesting protein/carbs here not fat which slows down digestion.

<<LMO>>

LOL, i dont know why but that sounded funny. "horrible idea". Shot the kids dreams all to shreads LMO...haha

**KBZ** · 08-30-2004, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by brian11

LOL, i dont know why but that sounded funny. "horrible idea". Shot the kids dreams all to shreads LMO...haha

lmao!!!! so true huh

**khurrams** · 08-30-2004, 09:11 PM

Well I do 45 minutes cardio after my workouts and Iv read on numerous posts that you should consume protien/fat after cardio so I use PB as the FAT SOURCE and its light Natural Peanut Butter with 2 Grams of fat per Tbl spoon and then 45-60 minutes later I have the PPWO Meal which consists of Protien/Carb...If this is still a fvcked up idea all critiques are welcome....no u r not crushing the quote "Kid's Dreams" Unquote....all your advices will help me better myself...Thankyou

**LeanMeOut** · 08-30-2004, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by khurrams

Well I do 45 minutes cardio after my workouts and Iv read on numerous posts that you should consume protien/fat after cardio so I use PB as the FAT SOURCE and its light Natural Peanut Butter with 2 Grams of fat per Tbl spoon and then 45-60 minutes later I have the PPWO Meal which consists of Protien/Carb...If this is still a fvcked up idea all critiques are welcome....no u r not crushing the quote "Kid's Dreams" Unquote....all your advices will help me better myself...Thankyou

Bro you said PWO not post cardio......if it is post cardio then that meal is fine. But no need for a pro/carb meal after the 1st post cardio meal.

<<LMO>>

**khurrams** · 08-30-2004, 09:18 PM

Yeah but I workout at 6:00 in the evening....I cardio after I workout and have a shake as soon as I go home....when do u suggest I eat my dinner since I need a protien/carb meal after my workout anyways??? Sorry to break your balls bro...thankyou for your advices though....Really appreciate it...

**LeanMeOut** · 08-30-2004, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by khurrams

Yeah but I workout at 6:00 in the evening....I cardio after I workout and have a shake as soon as I go home....when do u suggest I eat my dinner since I need a protien/carb meal after my workout anyways??? Sorry to break your balls bro...thankyou for your advices though....Really appreciate it...

If your doing cardio after you workout, you still need a PWO shake w/ protein / carbs. Whey / Dextrose is best.

As for the rest of your day, it would be best if you outline your whole diet for the day so we can critique it for you.

<<LMO>>

**khurrams** · 08-30-2004, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by LeanMeOut

If your doing cardio after you workout, you still need a PWO shake w/ protein / carbs. Whey / Dextrose is best.

As for the rest of your day, it would be best if you outline your whole diet for the day so we can critique it for you.

<<LMO>>

Meal 1: Protien Shake along with a bowl of Oatmeal

Meal 2: Ultra Low Fat Cottage cheese with peach

Meal 3: Tuna Wrap

Meal 4: A Can of Tuna with light mayo and franks hot sauce

Workout/ Cardio

Meal 5: Post workout/post Cardio Protien Shake with banana, peanut butter and honey to spike up the insulin

Meal 6: 45-60 minutes after the shake: brown rice with chicken breast or salmon or a sole fish fillet

Meal 7: an apple, peach and a pear with a protien shake

**LeanMeOut** · 08-30-2004, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by khurrams

Meal 1: Protien Shake along with a bowl of Oatmeal

Meal 2: Ultra Low Fat Cottage cheese with peach

Meal 3: Tuna Wrap

Meal 4: A Can of Tuna with light mayo and franks hot sauce

Workout/ Cardio

Meal 5: Post workout/post Cardio Protien Shake with banana, peanut butter and honey to spike up the insulin

Meal 6: 45-60 minutes after the shake: brown rice with chicken breast or salmon or a sole fish fillet

Meal 7: an apple, peach and a pear with a protien shake

The goals of this diet are to cut correct??

<<LMO>>

**khurrams** · 08-30-2004, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by LeanMeOut

The goals of this diet are to cut correct??

<<LMO>>

Yes Im cutting right now.....I have another 8 shots of tren left which Im doing at 105 mg EoD and also running clen 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off and running ECY on the off weeks.....Am I OK with this diet???

**LeanMeOut** · 08-30-2004, 10:46 PM

In orange bro

Originally Posted by khurrams

Meal 1: Protien Shake along with a bowl of Oatmeal

Fine...

Meal 2: Ultra Low Fat Cottage cheese with peach

Get rid of the peach.....where is the protein in this meal???

Meal 3: Tuna Wrap

Only use a wrap if it is a low carb tortilla, and you still need fat.

Meal 4: A Can of Tuna with light mayo and franks hot sauce

Use full fat mayo.....

Workout/ Cardio

Meal 5: Post workout/post Cardio Protien Shake with banana, peanut butter and honey to spike up the insulin

No peanut butter and no bananna.....just whey/dextrose here. Wait 15 minutes after cardio. Ideally you would split the sessions of cardio and lifting.....

Meal 6: 45-60 minutes after the shake: brown rice with chicken breast or salmon or a sole fish fillet

Fine....

Meal 7: an apple, peach and a pear with a protien shake

No need for carbs here.....pro/fat preferably an EFA with a protein shake.

**SwoleCat** · 08-30-2004, 10:47 PM

Seperate your cardio and training!

I can't believe no one saw that yet.

What good is cardio if you slam down carbs right after??

NONE.........the measly "KCALS" you burned during the session did nothing but cut into your recovery window from the anaerobic activity (weights). Surely you didn't do a full 45 mins of cardio, probably only 30 I'd venture to guess, so that's even less productive. Even if you did a 45, you are still blunting lipolysis right after cardio w/the carbs, and you also attempt to go from the state of fat burning to the state of anabolism?

No way. Seperate 'em and watch the results soar.

~SC~

**LeanMeOut** · 08-30-2004, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Seperate your cardio and training!

I can't believe no one saw that yet.

What good is cardio if you slam down carbs right after??

NONE.........the measly "KCALS" you burned during the session did nothing but cut into your recovery window from the anaerobic activity (weights). Surely you didn't do a full 45 mins of cardio, probably only 30 I'd venture to guess, so that's even less productive. Even if you did a 45, you are still blunting lipolysis right after cardio w/the carbs, and you also attempt to go from the state of fat burning to the state of anabolism?

No way. Seperate 'em and watch the results soar.

~SC~

Read my critique

So when do I get to pick a fight w/ you??? I wanna swing my almighty E-dick lmao.....

<<LMO>>

**SwoleCat** · 08-30-2004, 10:49 PM

LMO, d*mn you, you beat me to the post that's why my post reads "no one" commented on the seperation of cardio/weight training.

~SC~

**LeanMeOut** · 08-30-2004, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

LMO, d*mn you, you beat me to the post that's why my post reads "no one" commented on the seperation of cardio/weight training.

~SC~

Told ya your getting old

I beat ya even with my broken fingers

<<LMO>>

**SwoleCat** · 08-30-2004, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by LeanMeOut

Read my critique

So when do I get to pick a fight w/ you??? I wanna swing my almighty E-dick lmao.....

<<LMO>>

Hahhah, u beat me again f*cker.........

Pick a fight anytime bro...........sh*t...............it ain't like I'm not used to it.

But if you think I'm changing my charming ways for those other kids, you must be smokin' some serious crack!

~SC~

**khurrams** · 08-30-2004, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by LeanMeOut

In orange bro

For EFAs I take two flax seed and two omega 3 caps totalling to 4000mg with every meal...For meal 2 the protien is in the cottage cheese at 30 grams...For the Wrap Im using the atkins low carb whole wheat wrap.....I will definately adjust wat u had advised me though...thankyou

**SwoleCat** · 08-30-2004, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by khurrams

For EFAs I take two flax seed and two omega 3 caps totalling to 4000mg with every meal...For meal 2 the protien is in the cottage cheese at 30 grams...For the Wrap Im using the atkins low carb whole wheat wrap.....I will definately adjust wat u had advised me though...thankyou

4000mgs of fat is 4 grams.

Not nearly enough bro.

~SC~

**LeanMeOut** · 08-30-2004, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Hahhah, u beat me again f*cker.........

Pick a fight anytime bro...........sh*t...............it ain't like I'm not used to it.

But if you think I'm changing my charming ways for those other kids, you must be smokin' some serious crack!

~SC~

LMAO......nah I don't want to pick a fight I can't win

It's more fun tag teaming the $hit talkers in here haha

And who you callin a kid OLD MAN

<<LMO>>

**khurrams** · 08-30-2004, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Seperate your cardio and training!

I can't believe no one saw that yet.

What good is cardio if you slam down carbs right after??

NONE.........the measly "KCALS" you burned during the session did nothing but cut into your recovery window from the anaerobic activity (weights). Surely you didn't do a full 45 mins of cardio, probably only 30 I'd venture to guess, so that's even less productive. Even if you did a 45, you are still blunting lipolysis right after cardio w/the carbs, and you also attempt to go from the state of fat burning to the state of anabolism?

No way. Seperate 'em and watch the results soar.

~SC~

U r definately right and for the whole summer I was doing cardio first thing in the morning empty stomach but since school opened up I had to redo my whole routine but Im thinking to change it around....since all my classes start at 9:30 I must wake up at 6 and go for a jog empty stomach.....Once again swole and leanmeout....U guys are the gurus and its always an honour to take advice from you guys.....thankyou very much...
regards
Khurrams

**LeanMeOut** · 08-30-2004, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by khurrams

U r definately right and for the whole summer I was doing cardio first thing in the morning empty stomach but since school opened up I had to redo my whole routine but Im thinking to change it around....since all my classes start at 9:30 I must wake up at 6 and go for a jog empty stomach.....Once again swole and leanmeout....U guys are the gurus and its always an honour to take advice from you guys.....thankyou very much...
regards
Khurrams

No prob bro.....

I'm just glad someone finally took the comments we make as constructive criticism instead of flaming. Glad we could help ya

<<LMO>>

**khurrams** · 08-30-2004, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

4000mgs of fat is 4 grams.

Not nearly enough bro.

~SC~

Thats 4 grams x 7 = 28 grams of fat in a day.....Wats the ideal amount I should be taking

**LeanMeOut** · 08-30-2004, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by khurrams

Thats 4 grams x 7 = 28 grams of fat in a day.....Wats the ideal amount I should be taking

You'll have to figure that out on your own....see what works best for your body.... but 28g is definitely not enough. At the bare minimum I would say 50g....and that is the BARE minimum.

<<LMO>>