My cutting diet

[cb25]

Alright, so i'm gearing up to do some cutting...probably start early November.

My problem is that my workouts aren't always at the same time every day. So i have two diets written up - one for my early workout days, and another for the late days.

What can i improve upon?

Early Workout Days

Meal 1 (6am, pro/carb): Egg white omlette, ½ cup oatmeal mixed w/ splenda/cinnamon.
Meal 2 (9am, pro/fat): Protein shake (50g pro), handful of almonds
Workout: 1030ish
Meal 3 PWO (1130am): Shake, 60g dextrose, 30g protein
Meal 4 PPWO (1230pm, pro/carb): 1/2cup brown rice, medium chicken breast
Meal 5 (4pm, pro/fat): Tuna mixed w/ mayo
Meal 6 (7pm, pro/fat): Steak (or other lean pro), fibrous veggies
Meal 7 (10pm, pro/fat): Shake w/ flax.

Late Workout Days

Meal 1 (6am, pro/carb): Egg white omlette, ½ cup oatmeal mixed w/ splenda/cinnamon.
Meal 2 (9am, pro/fat): Shake, handful almonds
Meal 3 (12p, pro/fat): Chicken breast, salad w/ olive oil/balsamic dressing
Meal 4 (3p, pro/fat): Tuna mixed w/ mayo
Workout 5p
Meal 5 PWO (6p) Shake, 60g dextrose, 30g protein
Meal 6 PPWO (7p, pro/carb): ½ cup brown rice, lg chicken breast
Meal 7 (10p, pro/fat): Cottage cheese or shake w/ flax.


On top of that, i'll be taking a multi vit, vit c, vit e, glutamine...and probably some r-ala (though i'm not positive on this one yet...i've heard great things, just never tried it). i'm also thinking of running clen with it...but i tend to get headaches and shakes pretty easily on it, so this is still up in the air. i really can't afford to be shaking like crazy all day long, when i'm trying to do dental work, ya know?

So what are the thoughts on this?

[Hugh-Hefner's-Son]

Hey bro, I am not an expert, but I think the diet looks good. I am cutting and have prepared a plan very similar to yours. My suggestions would be...

1. If you so desire, change up some of your pro / fat shake meals with
some natty peanut butter and lean protien.

2. Eliminate the cottage cheese and other dairy products, they could cause bloat.

3. Maybe add another lean protien meal into your die ( chicken cutlet, turkey burger....) It seems like there might no be enough cals altogether.

These are only suggestions, I think your diet looks awesome bro !

[cb25]

Hey bro, I am not an expert, but I think the diet looks good. I am cutting and have prepared a plan very similar to yours. My suggestions would be...

1. If you so desire, change up some of your pro / fat shake meals with
some natty peanut butter and lean protien.

2. Eliminate the cottage cheese and other dairy products, they could cause bloat.

3. Maybe add another lean protien meal into your die ( chicken cutlet, turkey burger....) It seems like there might no be enough cals altogether.

These are only suggestions, I think your diet looks awesome bro !

thanks man...i didn't even think of cottage cheese bloating -- very simple and common knowledge...and i like to have it in there when bulking, just because i enjoy it.

And i've got some natty pb...so i'll definitely add that in some days.

[Hugh-Hefner's-Son]

Yep, i never knew dairy was bad for bloat, SWOLE helped elaborate on this issue. I would be interested to see your workout plans. Natty Peanut is great for you and it actually promotes fat loss.


Any other help just holler, I am starting a cutting cycle next week. I have a strict diet planned, but my workout is up in the air

[cb25]

Yep, i never knew dairy was bad for bloat, SWOLE helped elaborate on this issue. I would be interested to see your workout plans. Natty Peanut is great for you and it actually promotes fat loss.


Any other help just holler, I am starting a cutting cycle next week. I have a strict diet planned, but my workout is up in the air

I'm not sure i'll change anything, as i'm pretty happy with how my workouts are structured right now. It looks like this:

Day 1: Chest/bis
Day 2: Legs
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Back/Traps
Day 5: Shoulders/Tris
Day 6/7: off (cardio)

I'm starting to do abs 3x/week and cardio 5-6x/week.

[Hugh-Hefner's-Son]

Looks good...here's my cutting workout


MON: Legs + Calves
TUES: CHEST + TRI
WED: Cardio + Abs
THURS: BACK + Bi's
FRI: SHOULDERS + Traps
SAT: Cardio + Abs
SUN: Cardio

[Hugh-Hefner's-Son]

Are you shooting for low reps heavy wieght. I am going for 3 sets
which will be 6 reps heavy , 8 reps medium, 10 reps max out

[cb25]

yea, i want to keep it heavy - pyramiding up in weight - 3-4 sets per exercise.

[cb25]

bump

i'll also probably add 1/2cup veggies PPWO.

any other opinions...swole, rambo, anyone?

[bmwrob]

Sorry, not Swole or any of the gurus here.... but my question to you cb25 is what is "NATTY PEANUTTBUTTER" is that just all natural pb like Adams all-natural?

[bmwrob]

Never mind. That's what I get for not reading a little further down the threads lists. Got the answer. Thanks

[Panzerfaust]

Many people use "No Fat" cottage cheese as their last meal before bed because of the casein in it.

I have just implemented this, otherwise it is a pro shake w/ flax...

[rambo]

Alright, so i'm gearing up to do some cutting...probably start early November.

My problem is that my workouts aren't always at the same time every day. So i have two diets written up - one for my early workout days, and another for the late days.

What can i improve upon?

Early Workout Days

Meal 1 (6am, pro/carb): Egg white omlette, ½ cup oatmeal mixed w/ splenda/cinnamon.
Meal 2 (9am, pro/fat): Protein shake (50g pro), handful of almonds
Workout: 1030ish
Meal 3 PWO (1130am): Shake, 60g dextrose, 30g protein
Meal 4 PPWO (1230pm, pro/carb): 1/2cup brown rice, medium chicken breast
Meal 5 (4pm, pro/fat): Tuna mixed w/ mayo
Meal 6 (7pm, pro/fat): Steak (or other lean pro), fibrous veggies
Meal 7 (10pm, pro/fat): Shake w/ flax.

Late Workout Days

Meal 1 (6am, pro/carb): Egg white omlette, ½ cup oatmeal mixed w/ splenda/cinnamon.
Meal 2 (9am, pro/fat): Shake, handful almonds
Meal 3 (12p, pro/fat): Chicken breast, salad w/ olive oil/balsamic dressing
Meal 4 (3p, pro/fat): Tuna mixed w/ mayo
Workout 5p
Meal 5 PWO (6p) Shake, 60g dextrose, 30g protein
Meal 6 PPWO (7p, pro/carb): ½ cup brown rice, lg chicken breast
Meal 7 (10p, pro/fat): Cottage cheese or shake w/ flax.


On top of that, i'll be taking a multi vit, vit c, vit e, glutamine...and probably some r-ala (though i'm not positive on this one yet...i've heard great things, just never tried it). i'm also thinking of running clen with it...but i tend to get headaches and shakes pretty easily on it, so this is still up in the air. i really can't afford to be shaking like crazy all day long, when i'm trying to do dental work, ya know?

So what are the thoughts on this?

It's structurally perfect. Keep the cottage cheese, and screw the flax, just toss 2 tbsp of natty pb on it, stir, and enjoy the "breadless peanut butter sandwich" . One question... where is the cardio? I'd try and open up with AM cardio, and if you do, just remove the carbs from the first meal, and replace them with about 15grams of EFA. If you can't do it in the AM, then do it last thing before bed, followed 40 minutes by a pro fat meal. If you do it at night, allow about 3 hrs from your last meal before you do the cardio.

Other than that it looks great!

[cb25]

It's structurally perfect. Keep the cottage cheese, and screw the flax, just toss 2 tbsp of natty pb on it, stir, and enjoy the "breadless peanut butter sandwich" . One question... where is the cardio? I'd try and open up with AM cardio, and if you do, just remove the carbs from the first meal, and replace them with about 15grams of EFA. If you can't do it in the AM, then do it last thing before bed, followed 40 minutes by a pro fat meal. If you do it at night, allow about 3 hrs from your last meal before you do the cardio.

Other than that it looks great!

thanks man -

cardio is going to have to be last thing at night - call me undedicated, but i am worthless in the morning. i have a hard enough time just getting out of bed for class...let alone anything else.

[Panzerfaust]

cardio is going to have to be last thing at night - call me undedicated, but i am worthless in the morning. i have a hard enough time just getting out of bed for class...let alone anything else.

We all make sacrifices, get your lazy arse outa bed.

[cb25]

We all make sacrifices, get your lazy arse outa bed.

haha...yea, i know, i know...

honestly, the change in diet will be drastic enough for me to start noticing some changes...as soon as they slow, i'll kick up the am cardio. grrrrrrr...

[cb25]

well, i'm almost a month in...so far so good.

I've slacked on cardio...had a hard time getting much in.

I'm down 15 lbs so far...i plan on taking 2 days off for thanksgiving, then back on hard through Xmas. Will keep ya'll updated.

[rambo]

Awesome!

[cb25]

Awesome!

thanks man...now if i would get off my ass and add some cardio...i think i'd see absolutely amazing results.

[ONaMission]

It's structurally perfect. Keep the cottage cheese, and screw the flax, just toss 2 tbsp of natty pb on it, stir, and enjoy the "breadless peanut butter sandwich" . One question... where is the cardio? I'd try and open up with AM cardio, and if you do, just remove the carbs from the first meal, and replace them with about 15grams of EFA. If you can't do it in the AM, then do it last thing before bed, followed 40 minutes by a pro fat meal. If you do it at night, allow about 3 hrs from your last meal before you do the cardio.

Other than that it looks great!

Quick question, Your cutting sticky states that Carbs should come in the form of PWO, and the remainder in the first meal. Did I understand you right when you said to open up with cardio and make the first meal pro/fat instead of pro/carb?

[ONaMission]

Nevermind, found the answer.