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10-28-2004, 06:49 AM #1English Rudeboy
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What if your cardio can't be done first thing?
I know that am cardio on an empty stomach is the way to go and that is what I do, I run outside 3 or 4 mornings a week. However, the weather here has been real sh1tty of late, no biggie on weekdays I just hit the gym and use a treadmill but on weekends the gym doesn't open till 10am.
My question is: given that I obviously don't want to leave my first meal of the day till 11am, what are my best options for breakfast? I was thinking just a 50g whey shake at 8am, what do you guys think?
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10-28-2004, 06:52 AM #2AR Hall of Fame
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I'd have a fat/protein meal about 2.5 hours before the cardio session. May wish to pop some ala, eca, alcar, (or any self-made fat burning stack) about 15-20 mins before your cardio to help get into the "zone" quicker. If your goal is FAT loss though, stop running.
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10-28-2004, 06:55 AM #3English Rudeboy
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Originally Posted by SwoleCat
Yeah I always use ECA before cardio, don't think I could face it otherwise!
I'm probably showing my ignorance here but why not running for fat loss? - it seems to be working, What would be a better option?
Thanks again bro,
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10-28-2004, 07:02 AM #4AR Hall of Fame
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Running is usually indicative of having a heart-rate above and beyond the fat burning zone, thus you burn muscle glycogen and muscle as the activity is too intense for the body to break down fat into fatty acids to be burned for the activity. So, instead of using this fat for fuel, it uses a more easily obtainable source of fuel, that being sugar (glucose) and your lean mass once that's gone.
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10-28-2004, 07:14 AM #5English Rudeboy
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Originally Posted by SwoleCat
Never mind, it looks like its the "homo-gay eliptical trainer" for me from now on!
Thanks again bro!
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10-28-2004, 07:15 AM #6AR Hall of Fame
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LMFAO!!!!!!!
You'll like the results much better! (65-75% MHR for 40-45 mins)
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10-28-2004, 08:14 AM #7English Rudeboy
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I'll give it a go,
thanks Swole,
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10-28-2004, 12:44 PM #8Member
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Hey Swole...... Would walking on the treadmill at a high incline be OK just as long as I keep it between 65-75% of MHR? When I don't have it on an incline I can't really feel anything. I can definatly tell the difference between the treadmill and the elipticals because I don't get a burn in my legs on the treadmill. Because of that burn I can only do about 15-20 minutes on the elipticals so that's why I stick to the mills. Any help would be great.
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10-28-2004, 01:31 PM #9
It makes no difference what you are doing, just make sure you remain in your target HR the whole time, i don't care if you are walking...
HR is the key!
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10-28-2004, 01:54 PM #10
You should buy a heart rate monitor...They have the watch style shipped for $20 off ebay. That's what I have and the readings are pretty close to the cardio machine's readings hr monitor...
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Originally Posted by bmwrob
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10-28-2004, 03:05 PM #12Originally Posted by SwoleCat
I know there are specific percentages, but I do not know them, so ill just make up an example
while walking, 50% of your calories burned are fat calories
so, you burn 600 calories an hour, and 300 of those are from fat
while running, you only burn 25% fat calories
so, you burn 1000 (which is quite a bit less than what I actually burn an hour running) an hour, and 250 of those are from fat
Now, these numbers are hypothetical, but If I understood it correctly, this was approximately how it works...I enjoy running, even though it is tougher, I still feel like I can get similar results to those walking..even if I have to eat a bit more to make up for the extra calorie burn.
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10-28-2004, 03:13 PM #13English Rudeboy
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Originally Posted by jmillerdls
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10-28-2004, 03:33 PM #14Originally Posted by NotSmall
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10-28-2004, 04:51 PM #15
just wanted to chime in and say that i have yet to do an AM cardio session for the last 12 weeks (contest prepping) and have managed to get down to my current form (3% fat) without muscle loss. i dont feel as though AM empty cardio is totally necessary, but this is just my personal opinion.
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10-28-2004, 05:40 PM #16Originally Posted by bigsd67
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10-28-2004, 06:26 PM #17AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by jmillerdls
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10-28-2004, 06:28 PM #18AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by bigsd67
I say "dummies" not to insult newbies to cardio, but to classify it as a "no brainer" form of exercise to progress.
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10-28-2004, 06:59 PM #19Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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10-29-2004, 02:38 AM #20Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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10-29-2004, 02:50 AM #21English Rudeboy
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Originally Posted by jmillerdls
Sound OK Swole?
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10-29-2004, 06:17 AM #22AR Hall of Fame
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If you see the need to pound the pavement daily with your ankles/knees/lower back, etc., then run Forrest run.
What bb'ers do you see RUNNING, ever?
Try it, see what happens.
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10-29-2004, 08:06 AM #23Originally Posted by bigsd67
Well God**** bro, if we were all genetically gifted as you are we would not have to do AM cardio either.
I was gonna say the same as Swole, you guys are in such good shape and lean that you require little to no cardio whereas the "rest" of us slugs NEED it.
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10-29-2004, 11:10 AM #24English Rudeboy
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