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    UberSoldat is offline Junior Member
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    Source of good...

    Hello.
    I was just wondering if canned corn and pineapples are good source of carbs ? Pineapple has sugat that is all natural isnt good than ?
    Thanks a lot

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    Not really, no.

    For what purpose/meal/etc........

    I'd have to go w/no though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UberSoldat
    Hello.
    I was just wondering if canned corn and pineapples are good source of carbs ? Pineapple has sugat that is all natural isnt good than ?
    Thanks a lot

    I would think in your post work out meal the corn would be okay. If you are bulking pineapples may be good to replinish liver glycogen in the morning to help prevent muscle breakdown in the gym. Probably debateable but I like both.

    I have read Parrillo mention both in his books. I also beleive T-mag mentions corn in their chanko(sp)diet.

    Peace and good luck.

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    Well ... I am on bulking diet... 218 Lbs 15bf 6`3.
    I use corn in my Pro/Carb mea which is:
    Big can of chicken breast - 70g protein
    1/2 cup of cottage cheese - 12g pro 4.5gfat 4carb
    Can of Corn - 7g pro 3.5fat 70carbs
    Mix it all together and eat.

    Other meal .. Can of pineapples 67g carb + whey protein shake 70g pro 4fat 9 carb

    Am I gonna get lots of fat from eating those foods everyday ?

    One more question... like I checked todays food intake was 45pro/47carb/8fat.
    Is fat way too low ? or I can keep it up like that ?

    Thanks

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    corn isnt really the kind of Low Gi carbs i am assuming u want at that time

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    It's full of sugar actually..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalcowbag
    corn isnt really the kind of Low Gi carbs i am assuming u want at that time

    DCB

    Actually, it depends upon what type of corn he is using. I am sure you guys are triing to help. But debating over corn and gi for that matter during a bulking phase and an individuals phyisiogical reaction to particular macs is silly.

    The gi is also overrated. Some bodybuilders bulk on white rice and potatoes in everymeal and still stay somewhat lean.

    Once again if you read t-mag mentions it in one of their diets.

    Everything has sugar in it that is what we process for atp.


    peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by whalerider
    Actually, it depends upon what type of corn he is using. I am sure you guys are triing to help. But debating over corn and gi for that matter during a bulking phase and an individuals phyisiogical reaction to particular macs is silly.
    LOOK AT THE INGIRDENETS BRO, CORN DOES NOTHING TO REPAIR GLYUCOGEN WHAT-SO-EVER. AND LAST TIME I CHECKED THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF PWO AND PPWO MEALS

    The gi is also overrated. Some bodybuilders bulk on white rice and potatoes in everymeal and still stay somewhat lean.
    SOME BB-ERS ARE ALSO BULK ON SNICKERS ,AND CHEESE & PEPPERONIE PIE, THEY ARE ALSO ON 2-3 GRAMS OF GEAR A WEEK, A REASON WHY I WOULDNT DO NETHING DIET WISE THAT A 265LB GEAR WOULD DO, IT MAKES NO SENCE

    Once again if you read t-mag mentions it in one of their diets.
    OOOOOOH OK, THEN IT MUST BE RIGHT. . .MAGS ARE ALWAYS ON THE MOENY

    Everything has sugar in it that is what we process for atp.


    peace
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalcowbag
    CAPS. . .


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    bro no need to get so argumentative actually t-mag is a very reputable website. website bro website. As a matter of fact it is more reputable than musclemag. Maybe your right though I think a diet guru was in it...

    No actually bro you need to go to more shows and ask around more. Perhaps put your cookies down and do some more research.


    lol you don't repair glycogen. You replenish glycogen. You repair the muslce tissue with protien.which corn has as well.

    THERE ARE SOME BB THAT BULK ON SNICKERS...WHERE THE HECK DID YOU READ THAT...LMAO
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    put my cookies down???? what does that even mean. are you indicating thatr my diet approuch is not sound? even so i think you are mistaken.

    and ok so esxactly does corn RELENISH glycogen after a workout? did the BBer tell you this?

    dcb

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    watch lee preist and coleman bro. . they down junk food in the offseason like no tomorrow. . but they are also on so much gear no "normal" person can take nething they say literally.

    "peace"
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    Corn has protein......



    Need we say any more, nope......

    Can you say INCOMPLETE PROTEIN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    Corn has protein......



    Need we say any more, nope......

    Can you say INCOMPLETE PROTEIN?

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    dont want to hijack the thread but do we have to take care of these incomplete proteins on the total of prot we have to take daily? EX: if i eat some pasta with a burger patty and its like 20g of "incomplete protein" from the pasta and 50gr of prot from the beef patty, does it count for only 50gr of my daily intake? should i discard the "pasta protein" from my daily total?

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    Yes, becauase incomplete protein cannot build muscle. You need a COMPLETE pool of amino acids.

    Example:

    Rice has protein, very incomplete.

    Beans have protein, also incomplete.

    However, each of these compliment each other perfectly, each bringing to the mix what the other one does not.

    The result = all the aminos present aka complete source of protein.

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    thanks SC!! i was wondering this for a while!! but now im kinda fuked up with my calculation... im already eating 2 lbs of lean ground beef each day i tough i was eating like 400g of prot ED with all the other incomplete prot (mainly from pasta)... man now im down to 300g of protein i dont think it would be very healthy to eat like 3lbs of beef ED...

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    So therefore, just to be on the safe side, only count protein from meats, whey, milk products????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6_pak
    So therefore, just to be on the safe side, only count protein from meats, whey, milk products????????
    yep, unless you are on a topic secret diet that we can't talk about-wink wink- or discuss openly then you have to count in cookies, and snickers and don't forget mac and cheese...so that we can look like Ronnie coleman...lmao


    no wonder why he doesn't let the youngsters talk about it openly..
    swole told me to repair glycogen...duh okay george.

    then we would have to call a moderator because we can dish it out but we cant take it right swole....=)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    Corn has protein......



    Need we say any more, nope......

    Can you say INCOMPLETE PROTEIN?

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    hehehehe a tickle fight... heehehe funny guy. your funny swole. better go pm a mod..

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    Not only are you full of INACCURATE INFO and have no dietary knowledge whatsoever, you're only here to start trouble and you serve no purpose.
    Your posts are all non-sequitors, and I am not the only one who has noticed that you are either very stupid, or drunk and incoherent. This is a location to assist, and you are nothing more than a cancer that is infesting this location.

    I will no longer waste my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whalerider
    hehehehe a tickle fight... heehehe funny guy. your funny swole. better go pm a mod..
    smart. . .real smart. keep buildinf muscle with your corn pal

    dcb

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    So ...if Ill eat one can of corn with my chicken breast ..one can a day.. its not gonna do any bad right ..once again im on bulking diet.
    Also... My intake ratio is 45/45/10 . Is it bad taht I have only %10 of fat a day. Im on 4300 cal ED diet. I read that for bulking diet there should be 40/40/20 ... 40/30/30. Mine is 45/45/10 ..I think Im gonna see whats gonna happen ... than decide. Thanks a lot Guys.. and STOP FIGHTING !

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    Wow. People get very emotional over corn.

    I like frozen corn as a PPWO carb some nights. Not for cutting, but a nice change from rice/yams. BTW it has a GI of about 70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC78
    Wow. People get very emotional over corn.
    .


    Sometimes, idiots just NEED to listen.

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