carb/fat

[bor]

Why can't i mix carbs and fat? And also is there any time of day when you could have a pro/carb/fat meal?

[Aboot]

The short answer is, if fat is present when carbs are present and insulin is released, you have a greater propensity to store that fat a body fat. The insulin shuttles the fat to be stored.

And no, there is no reason to have a pro/carb/fat meal.

[bor]

But whe would the propensity to store the fat as bodyfat be the least? If you ate the meal b4 u train, b4 some kind of cardio, an hour or 2 after the gym? I'm basically askin g what is the best time to have a pizza or like a sandwich with white bread , I know its never a good time, but when would it do the least damage. Pizza is basically the only cheat meal I ever have, I can go for months without sweets, ice cream, chocolate, McDonalds and so on. There is something about breads that satisfies my cravings, I like anything thats dry and chewy!

And thanx for the help in both my threads Aboot!!

I hope SC doesn't read this coz he'll kick my a$$! thank god I didn't mention milk anywhere!

[Aboot]

The rule as always: a cheat meal is a cheat meal. Screw it. Just have it. If you're eating clean the rest of the time it will help you reach your goals rather than hinder it. Just eat your pizza and don't worry about it.

[bor]

good point!

[Militia]

train hard with high intensity deplete all your muscle glycogen then take the pizza all the carb will be stored as glycogen with minimal spill over.

[SwoleCat]

train hard with high intensity deplete all your muscle glycogen then take the pizza all the carb will be stored as glycogen with minimal spill over.

Can you tell me what will happen to the FAT in the meal?

Please, tell us.

~SC~

[SwoleCat]

Needless to say, for anyone who takes that HALFWAY seriously.

DO NOT eat f*cking PIZZA after training.

Dex/pro, then a CLEAN carb/protein meal 1-2 hours after that.

Unless you like to PURPOSELY store fat when your insulin levels are through the roof.
Fat is NOT STORED as muscle glycogen, EVER, but will be stored as adipose tissue (FAT) VERY easily if one is to do this.

Please don't give out such advice if you really don't understand nutrition.

~SC~

[Militia]

Needless to say, for anyone who takes that HALFWAY seriously.

DO NOT eat f*cking PIZZA after training.

Dex/pro, then a CLEAN carb/protein meal 1-2 hours after that.

Unless you like to PURPOSELY store fat when your insulin levels are through the roof.
Fat is NOT STORED as muscle glycogen, EVER, but will be stored as adipose tissue (FAT) VERY easily if one is to do this.

Please don't give out such advice if you really don't understand nutrition.

~SC~

the guy said he want to cheat with the pizza and he asked about the best time to eat the pizza as a cheat meal , so imo its better to eat after a hard training than to eat without training ,i repeat i give my advice considering the pizza as a cheat not as a post workout meal

[SwoleCat]

That makes more sense then, thanks for clarifying. If it's a cheat meal though, h*ll, it's a cheat meal, so you just eat it any time that is why it's called cheating.

~SC~

[bor]

That makes more sense then, thanks for clarifying. If it's a cheat meal though, h*ll, it's a cheat meal, so you just eat it any time that is why it's called cheating.

~SC~

Actually the point of the question was, although its a cheat meal, at what time would it do the least damage to my body (visually).

So.......:

PWO : bad idea coz it contains fat

PPWO : still bad idea for the same reason

b4 bed : probably the worst time of all

b4 training (like an hour or 2) : I was thinking the training session would burn the extra calories? And a hard cardio session (like m.a.) would be a better choice then b4 the gym (although there would be no fat burning involed in both cases)?

And thanx for all the replies!

[Panzerfaust]

Why not make your cheat meal/day on an off day from the gym?

I have my cheat on Saturday when i have no cardio or weight training, makes it easy for me personally.

Now today i am back on the horse and ready to tear my arms to **** in a few hours.

[bor]

Yeah thats what I usually do but I feel soooooooooooo guilty afterwards!!!

[Panzerfaust]

Yeah thats what I usually do but I feel soooooooooooo guilty afterwards!!!

I don't feel guilty, i feel rewarded. Bottom line is this: If you are truly in the gym busting your ass all week, what the fark is a cheat meal/day gonna do?