Is there sugar in scotch

**test is best** · 12-08-2004, 10:40 AM

Bros, I try to avoid sugar at all costs.
This weekend im going to a x-mas party and ill prob have a couple of drinks
do you know if theres sugar in scotch or whiskey?carbs?
thanks

**Boost n Juice** · 12-08-2004, 10:46 AM

Most straight gins, vodkas, scotchs do not contain any sugar or carbs...Some brands may add some to enhance flavor so it's best to look up the brands online...

All alcohol is bad when it comes to lifting, lowers test and has a lot of cals. Those three are the best choices if you HAVE to drink

**ProVet** · 12-08-2004, 11:43 AM

Alcohol and Hormones

Alcohol Alert From NIAAA

Hormones are chemical messengers that control and coordinate the functions of all tissues and organs. Each hormone is secreted from a particular gland and distributed throughout the body to act on tissues at different sites. Two areas of the brain, the hypothalamus and the pituitary, release hormones, as do glands in other parts of the body, such as the thyroid, thyroidglands, gonads, pancreas, and parathyroid.

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For hormones to function properly, their amount and the timing of their release must be finely coordinated, and the target tissues must be able to respond to them accurately. Alcohol can impair the functions of the hormone-releasing glands and of the target tissues, thereby causing serious medical consequences.
Hormones control four major areas of body function: production, utilization, and storage of energy; reproduction; maintenance of the internal environment (e.g., blood pressure and bone mass); and growth and development.

This Alcohol Alert describes how, by interfering with hormone actions, alcohol can alter blood sugar levels and exacerbate or cause diabetes (1-4); impair reproductive functions (5,6); and interfere with calcium metabolism and bone structure, increasing the risk of osteoporosis (7). Conversely, hormones also may affect alcohol consumption by influencing alcohol-seeking behavior

**ProVet** · 12-08-2004, 11:44 AM

Alcohol Impairs Regulation of Blood Sugar Levels

The sugar glucose is the main energy source for all tissues. Glucose is derived from three sources: from food; from synthesis (manufacture) in the body; and from the breakdown of glycogen, a form of glucose that the body stores in the liver. Hormones help to maintain a constant concentration of glucose in the blood. This is especially important for the brain because it cannot make or store glucose but depends on glucose supplied by the blood. Even brief periods of low glucose levels (hypoglycemia) can cause brain damage.

Two hormones that are secreted by the pancreas and that regulate blood glucose levels are insulin and glucagon. Insulin lowers the glucose concentration in the blood; glucagon raises it. Because prevention of hypoglycemia is vital for the body, several hormones from the adrenal glands and pituitary back up glucagon function.

Alcohol consumption interferes with all three glucose sources and with the actions
of the regulatory hormones. Chronic heavy drinkers often have insufficient dietary intake of glucose (8). Without eating, glycogen stores are exhausted in a few hours (1). In addition, the body's glucose production is inhibited while alcohol is being metabolized (2). The combination of these effects can cause severe hypoglycemia 6 to 36 hours after a binge- drinking episode (1).

Even in well-nourished people, alcohol can disturb blood sugar levels. Acute alcohol consumption, especially in combination with sugar, augments insulin secretion and causes temporary hypoglycemia (9). In addition, studies in healthy subjects (10) and insulin-dependent diabetics (3) have shown that acute alcohol consumption can impair the hormonal response to hypoglycemia.

Chronic heavy drinking, in contrast, has been associated with excessive blood glucose levels (hyperglycemia). Chronic alcohol abuse can reduce the body's responsiveness to insulin and cause glucose intolerance in both healthy individuals (11) and alcoholics with liver cirrhosis (12). In fact, 45 to 70 percent of patients with alcoholic liver disease are glucose intolerant or are frankly diabetic (1). In animals, chronic alcohol administration also increases secretion of glucagon and other hormones that raise blood g lucose levels (13).

Alcohol consumption can be especially harmful in people with a predisposition to hypoglycemia, such as patients who are being treated for diabetes (3,4). Alcohol can interfere with the management of diabetes in different ways. Acute as well as chronic alcohol consumption can alter the effectiveness of hypoglycemic medications (14,15). Treatment of diabetes by tight control of blood glucose levels is difficult in alcoholics, and both hypoglycemic and hyperglycemic episodes are common (4). In a Japanese study, alcoholics with diabetes had a significantly lower survival rate than other alcoholics (16).

**ProVet** · 12-08-2004, 11:45 AM

Alcohol Impairs Reproductive Functions

The human reproductive system is regulated by many hormones. The most important are androgens (e.g., testosterone ) and estrogens (e.g., estradiol). They are synthesized mainly by the testes and the ovaries and affect reproductive functions in various target tissues. Other reproductive hormones are synthesized in the hypothalamus and pituitary. Although men and women produce many of the same hormones, their relative concentrations and their functions vary.

In men, reproductive hormones are responsible for sexual maturation, sperm development and thus fertility, and various aspects of male sexual behavior. In women, hormones promote the development of secondary sexual characteristics, such as breast development and distribution of body hair; regulate the menstrual cycle; and are necessary to maintain pregnancy. Chronic heavy drinking can interfere with all these functions. Its most severe consequences in both men and women include inadequate functioning of the testes and ovaries, resulting in hormonal deficiencies, sexual dysfunction, and infertility (5,6).

Alcohol is directly toxic to the testes, causing reduced testosterone levels in men. In a study of normal healthy men who received alcohol for 4 weeks, testosterone levels declined after only 5 days and continued to fall throughout the study period (17). Prolonged testosterone deficiency may contribute to a "femininization" of male sexual characteristics, for example breast enlargement (18).

In addition, animal studies have shown that acute alcohol administration affects the release of hormones from the hypothalamus and pituitary (5). Even without a detectable reduction of testosterone levels, changes in these hormones can contribute to the impairment of male sexual and reproductive functions (19). Alcohol also may interfere with normal sperm structure and movement by inhibiting the metabolism of vitamin A (20), which is essential for sperm development.

In premenopausal women, chronic heavy drinking can contribute to a multitude of reproductive disorders. These include cessation of menstruation, irregular menstrual cycles, menstrual cycles without ovulation, early menopause, and increased risk of spontaneous abortions (6,21,22). These dysfunctions can be caused by alcohol's interfering directly with the hormonal regulation of the reproductive system or indirectly through other disorders associated with alcohol abuse, such as liver disease, pancreatic disease, malnutrition, or fetal abnormalities (6).

Although most of these reproductive problems were found in alcoholic women, some also were observed in women classified as social drinkers, who drank about three drinks per day during a 3-week study (23). A significant number of these women had abnormal menstrual cycles and a delay or lack of ovulation.

Alcohol also affects reproductive hormones in postmenopausal women. After menopause, estradiol levels decline drastically because the hormone is no longer synthesized in the ovaries, and only small amounts are derived from the conversion of testosterone in other tissues. This estradiol deficiency has been associated with an increased risk for cardiovascular disease and osteoporosis in po stmenopausal women (24). Alcohol can increase the conversion of testosterone into estradiol (25). Accordingly, postmenopausal women who drank (24,26) were found to have higher estradiol levels than abstaining women. Studies have shown that in postmenopausal women, three to six drinks per week may reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease (27) without significantly impairing bone quality (24) or increasing the risk of alcoholic liver disease (28) or breast cancer (29).

**ProVet** · 12-08-2004, 11:46 AM

Alcohol Impairs Calcium Metabolism and Bone Structure

Calcium exists in two forms in the body. The main reservoirs are the bones and teeth, where the calcium content determines the strength and the stiffness of the bones. The rest of the body's calcium is dissolved in the body fluids. Calcium is important for many body functions, including communication between and within cells. The overall calcium levels depend on how much calcium is in the diet, how much is absorbed into the body, and how much is excreted. Calcium absorption, excretion, and distribution between bones and body fluids are regulated by several hormones, namely parathyroid hormone (PTH); vitamin D-derived hormones; and calcitonin, which is made by specific cells in the thyroid.

Alcohol can interfere with calcium and bone metabolism in several ways. Acute alcohol consumption can lead to a transient PTH deficiency and increased urinary calcium excretion, resulting in loss of calcium from the body (30). Chronic heavy drinking can disturb vitamin D metabolism, resulting in inadequate absorption of dietary calcium (31).

Studies in alcoholics also have shown that alcohol is directly toxic to bone-forming cells and inhibits their activity (32-34). In addition, chronic heavy drinking can adversely affect bone metabolism indirectly, for example by contributing to nutritional deficiencies of calcium or vitamin D (7). Liver disease and altered levels of reproductive hormones, both of which can be caused by alcohol, also affect bone metabolism (7).

Calcium deficiency can lead to bone diseases, such as osteoporosis. Osteoporosis is characterized by a substantial loss of bone mass and, consequently, increased risk of fractures. It affects 4 million to 6 million mainly older Americans, especially women after menopause. In alcoholics, the risk of osteoporosis is increased (35). Because many falls are related to alcohol use (36), adverse alcohol effects on bone metabolism pose a serious health problem.

Studies with abstinent alcoholics have found that alcohol-induced changes in bone metabolism, including toxic effects on bone-forming cells, are at least partially reversible after cessation of drinking (32,33,37,38).
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**test is best** · 12-08-2004, 03:30 PM

**** bro, all I said was I was going to have a couple drinks at a x-mas party.

**ProVet** · 12-08-2004, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by test is best

**** bro, all I said was I was going to have a couple drinks at a x-mas party.

Sorry..you asked..

**AandF6969** · 12-08-2004, 04:09 PM

just drink everclear on the rocks

**cb25** · 12-08-2004, 08:54 PM

There may be lower sugars...but there's still plenty of calores -- and not good ones. Alcohol has 7calories/gram (almost twice that of carbs (4cal/g) and almost as much as fat (9cal/g)).

**NevrSayNevr** · 12-08-2004, 09:03 PM

Are you dieting right now, or preping for a contest? If so avoid the alcohol. As for myself i am not a drinker, anymore, but will have 2 -3 drinks when the occasion calls for it, maybe 1-2 times a year. One of my buddies from another state will come up and visit 3 times a year and we might go out to eat and socialize, I could choose to try and walk a strict line, but life calls for flavor and living, the bodybuilding will always be there, some moments in life are rare, enjoy them.

**Spoon** · 12-08-2004, 09:25 PM

il drink to that!

**SwoleCat** · 12-08-2004, 09:26 PM

What's up w/hoarding the bandwidth???

~SC~

**Whitey** · 12-09-2004, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Boost n Juice

Most straight gins, vodkas, scotchs do not contain any sugar or carbs...Some brands may add some to enhance flavor so it's best to look up the brands online...

All alcohol is bad when it comes to lifting, lowers test and has a lot of cals. Those three are the best choices if you HAVE to drink

Well there goes my shot of whiskey in every protein shake.

**test is best** · 12-10-2004, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Whitey

Well there goes my shot of whiskey in every protein shake.

lol!

**Boost n Juice** · 12-10-2004, 01:22 PM

Well, since this is the bandwidth hoarding thread...Here's a new way to enjoy alcohol with even less calories and carbs...

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,...442629,00.html

A controversial new alcohol vapor machine could arrive in Colorado bars and clubs before politicians and law enforcement officials sort out who has authority to outlaw the "alcohol without liquid," or AWOL, device.
AWOL's manufacturer touts it as a low-carb, low-calorie way to indulge without hard liquor's usual nasty side effects, like vomiting or hangovers.
Critics say the device can deceive police Breathalyzers.
And doctors say AWOL, which turns a shot of liquor into an inhaled mist, is dangerous because alcohol bypasses the liver, the body's toxin filter. Inhaling vaporized liquor, like breathing in medicine, also makes a tiny amount go a very long way, said experts at National Jewish Medical and Research Center in Denver.
"Getting higher quicker - that's why people do crack instead of snort cocaine," said William Allstetter, National Jewish spokesman.

Colorado authorities fear AWOL will encourage risky party habits in college towns where alcohol abuse has been linked to the recent deaths of two students.
The device obviously targets young people who drink only to get drunk, said U.S. Rep. Bob Beauprez, who has introduced legislation to ban AWOL and launch an FDA investigation.
"This is a little different than sitting down for a beer or glass of wine with friends," said the Republican congressman. "The only purpose is pretty clear: a quick high."
A New York City suburb has banned AWOL, citing possible health risks and claiming the device could cause falsely low readings on police Breathalyzers.
"It's dumping more unfiltered alcohol into the blood and the brain - the brain first," said Dr. Marc Siegel, associate professor at New York University Medical School.
VIDEO
Post reporter Marsha Austin describes some of the health risks potentially associated with the AWOL alcohol-inhalation device.

That leaves users feeling drunk before alcohol shows up in their blood, he said.
Denver police doubt AWOL users can successfully evade a breath test, spokeswoman Virginia Lopez said.
She concedes that inhaled alcohol could eliminate the boozy smell many drunken drivers emit when they roll down a car window, erasing a sign officers use as probable cause to test for drunken driving.
Spirit Partners, AWOL's North Carolina distributor, did not return repeated calls.
Meanwhile, several Denver nightclub owners said Spirit is pushing hard to sell the device here. But many remain skeptical.
"I mentioned it in my managers' meeting - they thought I was crazy," said Regas Christou, owner of seven clubs including the Church, Serengeti and Funky Buddha. "I just don't want to take a chance with safety."
But inevitably, some bar or club owner will buy one of the $3,000 machines to attract customers, said David Clamage, who owns Rock Island, one of Denver's oldest clubs.
Binge drinkers are the target market, he said.
"It's designed to create an alcohol abuse problem," Clamage said. "It's real common on college campuses: How many beers can you drink; how many Jell-O shots can you eat?"
State alcohol enforcement officials said they were unaware AWOL existed. There is no law on Colorado's books that would prohibit the device's use, and it's unclear what agency would have oversight, they said.
"I'm not aware that we really have anything that would address this," said Ken Peterson, enforcement manager for the Liquor and Tobacco Enforcement Division.

**Whitey** · 12-11-2004, 11:07 AM

Where can I pick up one of these bad boys?

**Whitey** · 12-12-2004, 08:48 PM

Did a little research - one of these little babies can be yours for a mere $3,500. Kind of funny, it's actually a pipe that holds a shot of liquor. It bubbles oxygen through the liquor, vaporizing it, and you inhale the vapor for about 20 minutes. One shot is about all you need. It's basically a vodka bong!

And yes, I was thinking about buying one if it weren't too outrageously expensive.

Oh well...

**SwoleCat** · 12-12-2004, 10:14 PM

Yeah, that's costly!

~SC~

**Boost n Juice** · 12-15-2004, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by Whitey

one of these little babies can be yours for a mere $3,500...

I just saved you $3200...

Personal ones are shipped to your door $314...

http://www.awolmachine.com/page-3.htm

I think the $3K+ ones are commerical units designed to be used 100+ times a day for the next 5 years...Also they can doing multiple people at one time...

I'd really like to get one, but I'm already a "weekend alcohol" which I'm slowly trying to get out of and can't imagine buying this would help me in that situation...

Let us know how it works if you get it!

**Whitey** · 12-15-2004, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Boost n Juice

I just saved you $3200...

Personal ones are shipped to your door $314...

http://www.awolmachine.com/page-3.htm

I think the $3K+ ones are commerical units designed to be used 100+ times a day for the next 5 years...Also they can doing multiple people at one time...

I'd really like to get one, but I'm already a "weekend alcohol" which I'm slowly trying to get out of and can't imagine buying this would help me in that situation...

Let us know how it works if you get it!

That's hilarious, bro! You know, the only thing that bothers me about this AWOL thing is it elevates would-be casual drinking to the level of drug abuse. Kinda reminds me of those rockers back in the 80's who were shooting Jack Daniel's intraveneously as opposed to just drinking it. [no wonder those f#ckers could stay so skinny while getting loaded! lol!] Don't get me wrong - I would definitely try this at least once...