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    Kamel407 is offline Junior Member
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    Holy Sh!t

    Hello my friends. I'm back from the dead. Need some critique.

    Beginner

    6' 190lbs 18%BF - Cutting Diet - Goal = Decrease %BF

    Contained is my diet/cardio/weights

    On Day MWF

    6am Wake up - HIIT Cardio
    http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp

    7am Breakfast
    4 Servings Eggbeaters 120 Cal, 0 Fat, 0 Carb, 24 Pro
    1/2 cup Oatmeal 150 Cal, 3 Fat, 27 Carb, 5 Pro

    9:30am Snack
    Protein Shake w 1 tsp flax 170 Cal, 6 Fat, 6 Carb, 22 Pro
    http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/pr...roductid=10357

    12pm Lunch
    1 can light tuna in water 191 Cal, 1 Fat, 4 Carb, 42 Pro
    1 cup brocolli 24 Cal, 0 Fat, 6 Carb, 0 Pro
    1 tbsp olive oil 120 Cal, 14 Fat, 0 Carb, 0 Pro

    3:00pm Snack
    Protein Shake w 1 tsp flax (or handfull of nuts) 170 Cal, 6 Fat, 6 Carb, 22 Pro

    5:30pm Weight Training 1 hour
    http://www.ast-ss.com/training/getti...?part=1&page=4

    6:30pm PWO
    Protein Shake with Dextrose ???

    7:30pm Dinner
    1/4 Chicken 180 Cal, 8 Fat, 0 Carb, 27 Pro
    1 cup brocolli 24 Cal, 0 Fat, 6 Carb, 0 Pro
    1/2 cup oats 150 Cal, 3 Fat, 27 Carb, 5 Pro

    9:00pm Evening Snack
    Protein Shake with 1 tsp flax oil 170 Cal, 6 Fat, 6 Carb, 22 Pro

    10pm Sleep

    Water intake 1.5 Gallons

    Totals - Without PWO
    1469 Cal, 47 Fat, 82 Carb, 169 Pro

    Questions

    1. Too much Protein supp? Not enough real protein?
    2. Too little calories?
    3. How many scoops protein/dextrose (how much pro/carb) for PWO?
    4. Which times for Casein? Which times for Whey? Which times for combo?
    5. What do I change for Off day?
    6. Diet Soda ok?
    6. Ok to have an Ab day? (Sunday Morning) followed by PWO Shake?
    http://www.musclemedia.com/training/BootCamp.asp

    Blast away, the more info you put, the more info I learn.
    Last edited by Kamel407; 12-08-2004 at 08:05 PM.

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    First ill comment on the HIIT. That article was pretty bland and did not convince me to switch from the normal cardio routine as posted in the cutting sticky. In the how it works section, it talks about burning more carbs. Well, if done correctly, there really shouldnt be any carbs in your body anyways since you are doing cardio on an empty stomach first thing in the morning. What you will be burning more of is muscle. Thats just my opinion, with that said... in caps are a couple suggestions that I see off the bat

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamel407
    6' 190lbs 18%BF - Cutting Diet - Goal = Decrease %BF

    Contained is my diet/cardio/weights

    On Day MWF

    6am Wake up - HIIT Cardio
    http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp

    7am Breakfast
    4 Servings Eggbeaters 120 Cal, 0 Fat, 0 Carb, 24 Pro
    1/2 cup Oatmeal 150 Cal, 3 Fat, 27 Carb, 5 Pro
    I'D THINK ABOUT UPPING THE SERVINGS OF BEATERS HERE. IF YOUR
    WEIGHT LOSS HALTS, TRY SUBSTITUTING THE CARBS WITH EFA'S

    9:30am Snack
    Protein Shake w 1 tsp flax 170 Cal, 6 Fat, 6 Carb, 22 Pro
    http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/pr...roductid=10357
    I WOULD ADD ANOTHER SCOOP OF PROTEIN

    12pm Lunch
    1 can light tuna in water 191 Cal, 1 Fat, 4 Carb, 42 Pro
    1 cup brocolli 24 Cal, 0 Fat, 6 Carb, 0 Pro
    1 tbsp olive oil 120 Cal, 14 Fat, 0 Carb, 0 Pro

    3:00pm Snack
    Protein Shake w 1 tsp flax (or handfull of nuts) 170 Cal, 6 Fat, 6 Carb, 22 Pro

    5:30pm Weight Training 1 hour
    http://www.ast-ss.com/training/getti...?part=1&page=4

    6:30pm PWO
    Protein Shake with Dextrose ???
    YES, A 1:2 RATIO HERE OF PROTEINEX.
    E.G. 40GR OF PROTEIN: 80GR OF DEX

    7:30pm Dinner
    1/4 Chicken 180 Cal, 8 Fat, 0 Carb, 27 Pro
    1 cup brocolli 24 Cal, 0 Fat, 6 Carb, 0 Pro
    1/2 cup oats 150 Cal, 3 Fat, 27 Carb, 5 Pro
    YOU MAY WANT TO UP CARBS HERE, UP TO YOU BASED ON PROGRESS

    9:00pm Evening Snack
    Protein Shake with 1 tsp flax oil 170 Cal, 6 Fat, 6 Carb, 22 Pro
    MAKE IT TWO SCOOPS OF PROTEIN

    10pm Sleep

    Water intake 1.5 Gallons

    Totals - Without PWO
    1469 Cal, 47 Fat, 82 Carb, 169 Pro

    Questions

    1. Too much Protein supp? Not enough real protein?
    IMO, NOT ENOUGH PROTEIN IN GENERAL
    2. Too little calories?
    YES
    3. How many scoops protein/dextrose (how much pro/carb) for PWO?
    SEE ABOVE
    4. Which times for Casein? Which times for Whey? Which times for combo?
    DEPENDS, I HAVE 2-3 WHEY SHAKES A DAY DEPENDING ON SCHOOL/WORK SCHEDULE. TECHNICALLY, YOU ONLY NEED WHEY PWO
    5. What do I change for Off day?
    CHANGE YOUR PWO AND MAYBE PPWO MEALS
    6. Diet Soda ok?
    YOUR NOT COMPETING OR ANYTHING, SO I WOULD SAY YES, HELPS CONTROL MY HUNGER
    6. Ok to have an Ab day? (Sunday Morning) followed by PWO Shake?
    HMM, PERSONALLY, I DO NOT KNOW IF I WOULD HAVE A PWO SHAKE AFTER JUST ABS, MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE CAN CHIME IN
    Good luck bro

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    Kamel407 is offline Junior Member
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    Wow, thanks for the prompt reply,

    First ill comment on the HIIT. That article was pretty bland and did not convince me to switch from the normal cardio routine as posted in the cutting sticky.
    http://www.wsu.edu/~strength/hiit.htm
    http://www.wsu.edu/~strength/intbfatmetab.htm
    http://www.exrx.net/FatLoss/HIITvsET.html
    http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Substr...#anchor3174279

    Hope these give a little more detail

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    Question Updated Information

    Ingredients

    Real Food
    Publix EggStirrs (Egg Beaters Equivalent) Serving Size ¼ cup, Servings per container 15
    Calories 30, Fat 0g, Cholesterol 0mg Sodium 115mg, Carbohydrate 1g, Sugar <1g, Protein 6g
    Bumble Bee Chunk Light Tuna in Water Serving Size 2oz drainer, Servings per container 2.5
    Calories 60, Fat .5g, Cholesterol 30mg, Sodium 250mg, Carbohydrate 0g, Sugar 0g, Protein 13g
    Tyson Chicken Tenderloins Serving Size 2 pieces, Servings per container 12
    Calories 80, Fat .5g, Cholesterol 40mg, Sodium 180mg, Carbohydrate 0g, Protein 19g
    Bird’s Eye Broccoli Cuts Serving Size 1 cup, Servings per container 5
    Calories 25, Fat 0g, Cholesterol 0mg, Sodium 20mg, Carbohydrate 4g, Sugars 1g, Protein 2g
    Publix Old Fashioned Oatmeal Serving Size ½ cup, Servings per container 30
    Calories 150, Fat 2.5g, Cholesterol 0mg, Sodium 0mg, Carbohydrate 27g, Sugars 0g, Protein 5g

    Protein & Powders
    Cytosport Evopro Serving Size 1 scoop (32g), Servings per container 32
    Calories 145, Fat <3g, Cholesterol <10mg, Sodium N/A, Carbohydrate 3g, Sugars 1g, Protein 26g
    Solid Muscle Solid Whey Serving Size 1 scoop (32g), Servings per container 71
    Calories 128, Fat 2g, Cholesterol 45mg, Sodium 40mg, Carbohydrate 5.5g, Protein 22g
    Dextrose Serving Size 1.25tsp, Servings per container 227
    Calories 15, Fat 0g, Cholesterol 0mg, Sodium 0mg, Carbohydrate 3.85g, Protein 0g

    Oils
    Health From The Sun Lignan Gold Flax Oil Serving Size 1tbsp, Servings per container 47
    Calories 120, Fat 13g, Cholesterol 0mg, Sodium 0mg, Carbohydrate 0g, Sugars 0g, Protein 0g
    Alpha-Linolenic Acid (omega-3) 7,140mg, Linoleic Acid (omega-6)1,820mg, Oleic Acid (omega-9) 1,890mg

    Liquids
    Water 1.5 to 2 gallons


    Diet

    Breakfast 7:00am
    6 servings Egg Stirs
    180 Cal, 0g Fat, 6g Carb, 36g Pro
    ½ cup Oatmeal
    150 Cal, 2.5g Fat, 27g Carb, 5g Pro
    Total
    330 Cal, 2.5g Fat, 33g Carb, 41g Pro


    Snack 9:30am
    1 scoop Whey
    128 Cal, 2g Fat, 5.5g Carb, 22g Pro
    1 scoop Casein
    145 Cal, 2.5g Fat, 3g Carb, 26g Pro
    1 tbsp Flax
    120 Cal, 13g Fat, 0g Carb, 0g Pro
    Total
    393 Cal, 17.5g Fat, 8.5g Carb, 48g Pro


    Lunch 12:00pm
    6oz can Tuna
    150 Cal, 1.25g Fat, 0g Carb, 32.5g Pro
    ½ cup Oatmeal
    150 Cal, 2.5g Fat, 27g Carb, 5g Pro
    2.5 cups Broccoli
    62.5 Cal, 0g Fat, 10g Carb, 5g Pro
    Total
    362.5 Cal, 3.75g Fat, 37g Carb, 42.5g Pro


    Snack 3:00pm
    1 scoop Whey
    128 Cal, 2g Fat, 5.5g Carb, 22g Pro
    1 scoop Casein
    145 Cal, 2.5g Fat, 3g Carb, 26g Pro
    1 tbsp Flax
    120 Cal, 13g Fat, 0g Carb, 0g Pro
    Total
    393 Cal, 17.5g Fat, 8.5g Carb, 48g Pro


    PWO 6:30pm (right after weights)
    2 scoops Whey
    256 Cal, 4g Fat, 11g Carb, 44g Pro
    ½ cup Dextrose
    300 Cal, 0g Fat, 77g Carb, 0g Pro
    Total
    556 Cal, 4g Fat, 88g Carb, 44g Pro


    Dinner (PPWO) 7:30pm
    4 tenderloins Chicken
    160 Cal, 1g Fat, 0g Carb, 38g Pro
    ½ cup Oatmeal
    150 Cal, 2.5g Fat, 27g Carb, 5g Pro
    2.5 cups Broccoli
    62.5 Cal, 0g Fat, 10g Carb, 5g Pro
    Total
    372.5 Cal, 3.5g Fat, 37g Carb, 48g Pro


    Bedtime 10:00pm
    2 scoops Casein
    290 Cal, 5g Fat, 6g Carb, 52g Pro
    Total
    290 Cal, 5g Fat, 6g Carb, 52g Pro


    MWF ON Day PWO Shake
    2700 Cal, 54g Fat, 218g Carb, 324g Pro
    TTh Rest Day no PWO Shake
    2150 Cal, 50g Fat, 130g Carb, 280g Pro
    Last edited by Kamel407; 12-07-2004 at 05:47 PM.

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    Question

    How does this updated diet look? I've been using it this week and can definitely tell my calorie intake was too low previously. I just want to make sure this updated post is good enough

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    anything?

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