Thread: Ok, my clean bulk diet plan!!
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04-09-2005, 12:46 PM #1Associate Member
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Ok, my clean bulk diet plan!!
Hey guys..what do you think? I want to clean bulk. Currently 5'8, 170 lbs, 12%, 24 yrs old. And if you would to change something, what would it be?
Meal #1: 4 egg whites, 1 whole egg, bowl of oatmeal, multivitamin.
Meal #2: protein shake (with water- 2 scoops of Isopure protein)
Meal #3: 6 oz. Chicken breast(cooked with extra virgin olive oil) with 1/2 cup of mixed veggies, 1/2 cup of rice
Meal #4: 8 oz 90% Lean ground sirloin with 1/2 cup of rice, 1/2 cup of corn
Meal #5: Turkey Sandwich (1 piece of whole wheat, 3 slices of turkey, 1 tbs. of mayo, 2 slices of baby sliced swiss cheese, and a piece of lettuce)
Workout
Meal #6: 8 oz chicken breast (Cooked in extra virgin olive oil), 1/2 cup of rice, bowl of salad (cucumbers, olive oil, tomatoes)
Meal #7: Protein shake (same as above), 1 cup of mixed fruits, 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
Meal #8: 2 cans of tuna (with water, not the veg. oil kind) w/1 tbs. of mayo, veggies
10 G of glutamine before bed
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04-09-2005, 12:47 PM #2AR Hall of Fame
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I'd have to say check out the "How to Bulk" sample thread atop the page.
As well, your diet will differ on days you train/don't train, so you will have to have 2 different approaches.
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Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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04-09-2005, 01:04 PM #4Associate Member
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Originally Posted by SwoleCat
Again, if you can pinpoint what is missing I can alter that specific diet to make it a "good" diet. Thanks
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04-09-2005, 01:12 PM #5
why do you take in a protein shake by its self .. food is better unless its pwo
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04-09-2005, 01:13 PM #6
plus u eating CORN?!
and do you know what your macro values are?
and what they should be?
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04-09-2005, 01:14 PM #7Retired Vet
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- Not enough protein in first meal.
- How much protein in 2nd meal? You need a carb or fat in addition to protein. Make this a pro/fat meal.
- Drop the corn, higher in sugar. Use fibrous greens instead.
- Meal 5 you're mixing carbs and fats (cheese, mayo = fat; bread = carbs)
- Meal 7 you're mixing sugar (fruits) with fat (Natty PB)...
- Overall, you need to seperate your carbs & fats, and eat more of each (such as your rice amounts, increase to 1-1.5cups ea. serving IMO; and don't include fats with your carb meals, and ingest fat w/ Meal 2 etc)...
- Where's your PWO nutrition?
Good to start?
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04-09-2005, 01:20 PM #8
sepereating carbs/fats isnt mandatory especially for bulking but eating low/nosugar and low gi foods is
mayo seems to be his only real fat besides 1 yolk as far as i see..
needs more EFAs badly like salmon/almonds/flax
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04-09-2005, 01:25 PM #9Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by taiboxa
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04-09-2005, 01:30 PM #10Originally Posted by Blown_SC
i have read that consuming fats inconjuction w/ carbs will lower the overall GI of the carbs thus reducing chance for fat storage in first place.
just woundering
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Originally Posted by taiboxa
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04-09-2005, 01:38 PM #12Originally Posted by Blown_SC
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Originally Posted by Blown_SC
-2nd meal i am getting in 53 grams of protein, I am using Mocha flavoring with the protein shake that i bought at Powerhouse.
- Ok, will drop the corn and substitute fibrous greens. Is brocolli considered a "Fibrous green"?
-For meal 5, so you recommend to drop the mayo or the cheese?
-For meal 7, what should i drop? and where should i re-add this in my diet??
Thanks..i am determined to get this diet down pat so i can start it
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04-09-2005, 01:42 PM #14AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by taiboxa
So, basically to be "safe" and pretty d*mn sterling for results you "know" will show, it's a very good practice to well, practice!
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IN CAPS.
Originally Posted by Reelmuscle
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04-09-2005, 01:49 PM #16Originally Posted by SwoleCat
"it's a very good practice to well, practice!"
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04-09-2005, 01:51 PM #17Originally Posted by Reelmuscle
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04-09-2005, 01:52 PM #18Retired Vet
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Originally Posted by taiboxa
He's lean bulking, just FYI.
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04-09-2005, 01:55 PM #19Associate Member
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Ok, so here is what you are saying....
Meal #1: 8 egg whites, bowl of oatmeal, multivitamin.
Meal #2: protein shake (with water- 2 scoops of Isopure protein), flaxseed oil
Meal #3: 6 oz. Chicken breast(cooked with extra virgin olive oil) with 1/2 cup of rice
Meal #4: 8 oz 90% Lean ground sirloin with 1/2 cup of rice, 1/2 cup of cauliflower
Meal #5: Turkey Sandwich (1 piece of whole wheat, 3 slices of turkey, 2 slices of baby sliced swiss cheese, and a piece of lettuce) ..I CANT STAND MUSTARD!!
Workout...than immediatly a protein shake
Meal #6: 8 oz chicken breast (Cooked in extra virgin olive oil), 1/2 cup of rice, bowl of salad (cucumbers, olive oil, tomatoes)
Meal #7: Protein shake (same as above), 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
Meal #8: 2 cans of tuna (with water, not the veg. oil kind) w/1 tbs. of mayo, veggies
How is that??
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Originally Posted by Blown_SC
Here are some pics..Last edited by Reelmuscle; 08-02-2012 at 11:15 AM.
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04-09-2005, 02:00 PM #21Originally Posted by Reelmuscle
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04-09-2005, 02:01 PM #22Retired Vet
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In Blue.
Originally Posted by Reelmuscle
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04-09-2005, 02:03 PM #23
HA you take both our critiques and bam you got it!
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Originally Posted by Blown_SC
Meal #1: 8 egg whites, 1 bowl of oatmeal, multivitamin.
Meal #2: protein shake (with water- 2 scoops of Isopure protein), 2 tbs. of flaxseed oil
Meal #3: 6 oz. Chicken breast(cooked with extra virgin olive oil) with 1-1.5 cups of rice
Meal #4: 8 oz 90% Lean ground sirloin with 1/2 cup of rice, 1/2 cup of cauliflower
Meal #5: 2 cans of tuna with 2 tbs. spoon of full fat mayo
Workout
PWO: 2 scoops of Isopure Protein with water (50 g of protein), 100 G of Dextrose
Meal #6: 8 oz chicken breast (Cooked in extra virgin olive oil), 1/2 cup of rice, bowl of salad (cucumbers, olive oil, tomatoes)
Meal #7: Protein shake (same as above), 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
Meal #8: 2 cans of tuna (with water, not the veg. oil kind) w/ 2 tbs. of mayo, veggies
10g of Glutamine before bed
What do you think?Last edited by Reelmuscle; 04-09-2005 at 02:18 PM.
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Looks a helluva lot better now. I'd use 1.5-2tbslp of mayo with your tuna myself.
Give that a try, and based on your results, adjust accordingly!
Good luck!
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04-09-2005, 02:18 PM #26
ok good now plug that crap in at www.fitday.com and find out how much your taking in and the overall values.
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04-09-2005, 02:19 PM #27Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Blown_SC
Done, edited the above to what you said
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04-09-2005, 02:19 PM #28Retired Vet
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From the Bulking Sticky:
First things first:
There are many reasons that bulking diets fail but here are a few of the most common reasons:
1) Calories are not high enough and putting on muscle mass fails
2) Calories are too high and macros percentages are not in check. This in turn leads to putting on sloppy weight (fat) as well as muscle.
3) You are BULKING, not CHEATING. Cheat days will be factored in, but your food choices should still be healthy. All diets, whether cutting or buking, need to be monitored. This means that watching your insulin spikes and TYPE of carb intake is still important.
4) You are what you eat. It’s just that simple. To simplify, you eat crap and you will look like crap.
That being said let’s talk calories and figuring out daily needs
Harris Benedict Formula for Calorie Calculations
“The Harris Benedict equation is a calorie formula using the variables of height, weight, age, and gender to calculate basal metabolic rate (BMR). This is more accurate than calculating calorie needs based on total body weight alone. The only factor it omits is lean body mass and thus the ratio of muscle-to-fat a body has. Remember, leaner bodies need more calories than less leaner ones. Therefore, this equation will be very accurate in all but the very muscular (Harris-Benedict will under-estimate calorie needs) and the very fat (Harris-Benedict will over-estimate calorie needs).”
That being said, there are is no concrete number of daily calorie intake your body needs, however using this formula will give you can idea of what you do need.
Harris Benedict Formula for Men
BMR = 66 + (13.7 X weight in kilos) + (5 X height in cm) - (6.8 X age in years)
Notes:
1 inch = 2.54 cm.
1 kilogram = 2.2 lbs.
Example of BMR
You are 25 years old
You are 6 feet tall
Your weight is 220 pounds
Your BMR is 66 + (1370) + (914) - (170) = 2180 calories
Harris Benedict Formula for Men - STEP 2
To determine your total daily calorie needs, now multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:
If you are Sedentary - little or no exercise
Calorie-Calculation = BMR X 1.2
- If you are Lightly Active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR X 1.375
- If you are Moderately Active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR X 1.55
- If you are Very Active = BMR X 1.725 (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days/week)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR X 1.725
- If you are Extra Active (very hard daily exercise/sports & physical job or 2X day training)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR X 1.9
Total Calorie Needs Example
If you are lightly active, multiply your BMR (2180) by 1.375 = 2997
Your total daily calorie requirement is therefore 2997 calories.
This is the total number of calories you need in order to MAINTAIN your current weight.
If you want to gain body weight, you must consume more calories than you burn. One pound of body weight is roughly equivalent to 3500 calories, so eating an extra 500 calories per day will cause you to gain one pound a week. Etc….
We have included an excel document created by Elliot @ AR that will calculate your calorie needs for you, using the Harris Benedict formula.
Elliot's Harris Benedict Calculator for Males:
http://www.geocities.com/arelliotness/
Download the document named: harris-elliot.xls
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Originally Posted by taiboxa
THANK YOU VERY MUCH GUYS..I can not thank you enough for your help. The only two that actually helped. Now I can start this diet tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Reelmuscle
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04-09-2005, 02:26 PM #31Originally Posted by Blown_SC
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04-09-2005, 02:28 PM #32Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Blown_SC
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04-09-2005, 02:29 PM #33AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by Reelmuscle
You didn't purposely say this in a roundabout manner so as to imply that no one else helped/contributed/etc?
Realize that those who help here cannot see EVERY thread at the same time, and may get caught up at other places answering questions/posting/etc. You received free help, and that is something that is invaluable in this day age, no one is obliged to have to "give" this type of thing to you. Your issues were solved in "X" amount of time, but it took "Y" amount of time for more people to view this thread where they would have given input. Some people also just have sh*t to do.
Again, this is stated in case you meant your phrase above in a negative manner.
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Originally Posted by taiboxa
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Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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04-09-2005, 02:40 PM #36Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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04-09-2005, 02:41 PM #37Originally Posted by SwoleCat
gogo lounge more k?
bdtr is waiting for you for some ? nutritional help like waffles!
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04-09-2005, 02:57 PM #38Retired Vet
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LMAO........... just keeping my post count up ........
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Thanks to all..Including SwoleCat and the rest..
I will keep you guys updated on my progress and post pics soon. Thank you!!
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All good bro, just wanted you to know that there are LOTS of people here to help, but we all may not make it in time.
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