04-27-2005, 05:10 PM #1
Stopped gaining, I need help getting more calories.
I am 5'10 205 I am "ON" and have been for 9 weeks of 16. I have put on 12lbs so far but the last two have been 0 lbs gained. A typical pro/fat meal is min 50g pro closer to 60 and 25g of fat and 600 cals. I am worried about uping the cals since I would have to up the pro or fat and then I might go over my alloted pro and fat for the meal then everything goes to fat. Unless its safe to say that my body can handle more since I have put on weight. I eat 8 meals a day. Diet has been checked over and over in this forum so I am pretty confident its in check. Any ideas?
04-27-2005, 06:15 PM #2
I assume you are trying to bulk then, I would def increase the cals. Obv. you will have to increase the fat intake to compensate for the increase of calories. Adding something like another tbsp. of flax or some type other "good" fat will make up for the increase of calories. Add more quantity to your meals. What are percentages right now of protein/fat/carbs?
04-27-2005, 06:19 PM #3
420g of pro/115 g fat/275g carbs don't know what percentages that come out to.
04-27-2005, 06:35 PM #4
whats the total cal and I will tell you.
04-27-2005, 06:40 PM #5
Totaly cals approximately 4750
04-27-2005, 06:42 PM #6Originally Posted by dr.shred
Pro / Carb / Fat
420g / 275g /115g
51 % / 33% / 14%
04-27-2005, 07:12 PM #7
you can always drink a shake with flax/PB when you wake up at night.
other then that up the quantity of your meals to compensate (sp) for needed calories.
04-27-2005, 07:14 PM #8Originally Posted by ReX357
theres your problem. Not enough protein, not nearly enough carbs, fat is ok.
04-27-2005, 08:06 PM #9Originally Posted by dr.shred
04-27-2005, 09:13 PM #10Originally Posted by dr.shred
Also, could you tell me how you determined these percentages? (The equation)
04-28-2005, 01:35 PM #11Originally Posted by ReX357
fat= total x 9/total cal
carbs=total x 4/total cal
04-28-2005, 02:02 PM #12Originally Posted by dr.shred
I agree, the carb count is low... you should be getting 100g just from your PWO shake!
When I am bulking and I tell people I'm on a diet, they get confused. Bulking diets for me mean a MINIMUM not a MAXIMUM macronutrient/calorie level for each meal. Anything over my minimum is just icing on the cake.
04-28-2005, 05:10 PM #13
I do get 100 from my PWO then about another 100 from my PPWO and 75 for breakfast. Where else can I incorporate carbs? I have been thinking another pro/carb as my 2PPWO meal.
04-28-2005, 05:24 PM #14
i would shoot for a 40%p/40%c/20% fat split.
04-28-2005, 05:52 PM #15
1 more carb meal should get me close then.
Last edited by sooners04; 04-30-2005 at 02:30 AM.
04-28-2005, 08:56 PM #16Originally Posted by dr.shred
Do you have a link where I could read more about that? I didn't know you calculated percentages like that... This means I got a bunch of **** wrong.
04-29-2005, 06:44 AM #17Originally Posted by ReX357
04-29-2005, 09:01 AM #18Associate Member
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sooner: I'm pretty much in the same boat as you too. Was interesting to read your post. Guess I'm going to up my calories and protein as well....
04-29-2005, 10:40 AM #19Originally Posted by dr.shred
04-29-2005, 02:19 PM #20
I am 100% positive its right. I will find out tonight what the whole logic behind it is and where it comes from.
04-29-2005, 02:56 PM #21
I think the logic behind your equations is flawed dr. I'm backing up my claim with this:
Read the part:
As Percentage Of Daily Caloric Intake
Reverse the equations and I'm right... Sorry.
04-29-2005, 07:44 PM #22
where do you see this because I don't. Bro post some pics and we'll see how right you are.
04-29-2005, 07:55 PM #23
o d*nm nevermind I saw the pics I'd say your diet looks like its flawed.
04-30-2005, 01:07 AM #24Originally Posted by dr.shred
04-30-2005, 01:14 AM #25Originally Posted by dr.shred
04-30-2005, 02:28 AM #26
So have we determined who is right with MY percentages. Shred those percentages are based on my total calories right? So if 80% of my calories come from fat/pro/carbs. There is still 20% of my calories not accounted for.
Last edited by sooners04; 04-30-2005 at 02:32 AM.
04-30-2005, 02:38 AM #27Originally Posted by sooners04
275gX4=1100 Calories from carbohydrates
115gX9=1035 Calories from fats
1680+1100+1035=3815 total calories
1680/3815=44% from protein
1100/3815=29% from carbohydrates
1035/3815=27% from fats
is it really that hard guys?
04-30-2005, 02:55 AM #28
Okay, that makes sense, although I thought my cals would be higher. So back to my original question. How do I bump the cals without going over my limits on pro/fat/carbs and just wasting them to fat. I am going to try substituting a pro/fat meal after my PPWO with a pro/carb. So I have three pro/carbs in a row, PWO,PPWO and PPPWO.
Last edited by sooners04; 04-30-2005 at 02:58 AM.
04-30-2005, 03:08 AM #29
You should post up your entire daily diet with times and stuff like that so we can get a clearer picture.
04-30-2005, 03:16 AM #30
I'll find it, its been posted a few times.
04-30-2005, 03:20 AM #31
Here it is.
2 scoops whey
1 cup oatmeal
2 scoops whey
1/2 cup dextrose
8oz chicken breast
1 cup brown rice
7:30pm-Only on work days since this is my only option.
3 scoops whey
2 93% FF hamburgers
1 can green beans
1 tbsp mayo/mustard
1 tbsp ranch
1/2 cup 1% cottage cheese
Large can of Ham or can of chicken 50g pro either way
1 Tbsp mayo
8oz chicken breast
2 turkey sausages
2 tbsp natty PB
3 scoops whey
2 tbsp flax
On non-work days I will eat a big top sirloin steak with green beans and melted mozzarella cheese on the beans and bacos.
Last edited by sooners04; 04-30-2005 at 03:31 AM.
04-30-2005, 06:21 AM #32Originally Posted by AandF6969
04-30-2005, 06:34 AM #33
if he had given me the right number of calories in the first place that wasn't off by 1000 then the numbers would of came out right.
04-30-2005, 04:58 PM #34Originally Posted by ReX357
04-30-2005, 05:28 PM #35Originally Posted by sooners04
05-01-2005, 04:43 AM #36
Screw it, I am confused now. I will just add more protein to my diet and a pro/carb PPPWO.
05-01-2005, 09:35 AM #37
bro seriously pump up the carbs and you will gain. I had the same problem.
05-01-2005, 04:51 PM #38
Will do thanks bro.
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