Shakes vs ''Proper'' food - any proof ?

[IronFreakX]

peace .

proof that google works.........
http://www.femalemuscle.com/library/weekly/aa101399.htm

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/planet4.htm

http://dolphin.upenn.edu/~pennstar/ProteinforAthletes.ppt(not related that much to this issue)

[Kärnfysikern]

I gotta give it to ya, Johan! You come up with some ............interesting ways to eat things!

lol I practicly mix everything when Im cooking. Just a few days ago I did a stew with tuna, groundbeef and pork along with soybeans mushrooms and lots of peppers.

[alphaman]

Where you cutting?

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Yes.

[Duke of Earl]

peace .

proof that google works.........
http://www.femalemuscle.com/library/weekly/aa101399.htm

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/planet4.htm

http://dolphin.upenn.edu/~pennstar/ProteinforAthletes.ppt(not related that much to this issue)

nice links - thanks

[IronFreakX]

netime.......

[MatrixGuy]

Is it low carb? What brand / flavour ?

Anyhow ironfreak - now were buddies again - whats your thoughts on the matter ?

Its allthewhey. I was a bit sceptical at first but now i don't think i will ever use any other protein powder. All the powders i have tried before always had some kind of "chemical" aftertaste.. this one doesn't at all and it mixes like a dream.. you barely have to shake it for it too fully mix!

[Duke of Earl]

Its allthewhey. I was a bit sceptical at first but now i don't think i will ever use any other protein powder. All the powders i have tried before always had some kind of "chemical" aftertaste.. this one doesn't at all and it mixes like a dream.. you barely have to shake it for it too fully mix!

nicely martix - did you get it in the UK?

[Kärnfysikern]

duke are you in the uk? in that case I might know a very good protein seller. its raw protein concentrate unflavored so it might taste like shit but I hear its REAL cheap.

[SwoleCat]

Wow, I just read through all this b.s. flaming and have a migraine.

Enjoy.

~SC~

[MatrixGuy]

nicely martix - did you get it in the UK?

Yep. £44 for 10lb of the stuff!!

[longhornDr]

Reason why "proper" food is superior to shakes:

Slower absorption.

As you may know all nutrients absorbed from the intestine must pass through the liver before entering the systemic circulation i.e. your muscles. The liver keeps a relatively tight control on circulating amino acids...up to 75% of the protein you eat will never make it past the liver, (an exception being the BCAAs which pass through the liver unmolested). When you drink a shake the liver is exposed to a massive amount of AAs and it extracts most of it from the blood to keep systemic levels from getting out of control, thus a large amount of that shake is "wasted". Now with whole food, the digestive process slows down the rate at which the protein is presented to the liver, allowing a greater percentage to pass through to your muscles.

[Duke of Earl]

duke are you in the uk? in that case I might know a very good protein seller. its raw protein concentrate unflavored so it might taste like shit but I hear its REAL cheap.

yeah johan - I am in the UK at the moment - was trying to find exactly that - so could you let me know - thanks.

When you drink a shake the liver is exposed to a massive amount of AAs and it extracts most of it from the blood to keep systemic levels from getting out of control, thus a large amount of that shake is "wasted". Now with whole food, the digestive process slows down the rate at which the protein is presented to the liver, allowing a greater percentage to pass through to your muscles.

nice info Dr - how do you think this applies to slower absorbed protein powders (eg casein, egg white etc?) - anyone know if it's true that casein will ( physically ) bind with whey & slow down its' absorbtion ??

[S.P.G]

For one you cant eat a big meal at the gym after training..