Thread: carb cycling vs low carb diet
07-24-2005, 03:17 PM #1
carb cycling vs low carb diet
which is better for reducing fat while maintaining/increasing LBM (directly after a bulker)?
07-24-2005, 03:49 PM #2
I think carb free rest day and a medium carb workout day is the best since it then automaticly mini cycles carb intake each week while giving the body all it needs.
So I guess imo carb cycling is the best.
07-24-2005, 04:06 PM #3
johan is correct... cycle your carbs
07-24-2005, 08:43 PM #4
07-25-2005, 05:18 AM #5
i'm not too keen on carb free days i have to say
i only had 45g carbs yesterday and man i felt like sh!t
i will take everyones advice and cycle them, i doubt i'll be doing many 0carb days though - maybe once a week
i alway thought 0 carbs would cause muscle loss?
07-25-2005, 06:17 AM #6
I wouldnt.....but if they its ok...and it worked then try it......
I would use maybe 2 carb meals on non training day....
meal 1 and 3 or 4
but only very very low GI and load
like lentils , chick peas , soy beans , i think white beans too
07-25-2005, 06:39 AM #7
i will prob have around 45g - 90g carbs on non workout days
190g on workout days
Like fritz i was thinking of adding one very high carb day (500g) ,probably on leg or back day
where would my cheat meal fit into this?
on my very high carb day?
07-25-2005, 06:56 AM #8Originally Posted by G-Force
I always feel like shit..physically....after a crap cheat...like im weak and shit.....
but do wutever feels best for ya...
if ur gonna do crap...then add more carbs , protein and try to minimize fat intake...dont sweat it tho its ur cheat day....
07-25-2005, 07:43 AM #9
I agree with Johan
07-25-2005, 07:45 AM #10Originally Posted by G-Force
07-25-2005, 07:55 AM #11
play it by your body bro. I can handle carb free days without a problem. Heck some workout days I still only get 100g carbs(inpwo and ppwo). If you feel you need more then toy around with it. If weightloss stalls then begin by cutting down carbs on rest days.
I would do the cheat meal at the high carb day. Or just do a full out cheat day
07-25-2005, 08:14 AM #12Originally Posted by G-Force
07-25-2005, 08:17 AM #13Originally Posted by Lozgod
07-25-2005, 10:40 AM #14
You need some adaptation too, low carb dieting is real hard at first, you will feel really weird but if you stick to it you will really get amazing results.
07-25-2005, 12:48 PM #15
ive never read anywhere that ketosis is muscle sparing....
07-25-2005, 12:57 PM #16
IMO muscle protein catabolism is way overblown. The body doesnt want to use protein as a fuel source. Its just not a effective source of energy so its more inclined to go after fat and carbs before protein. Thats what I think atleast.
07-25-2005, 05:26 PM #17
i'm keen on trying carb cycling as i have never tried it before
i've been on low carbs for 2 weeks and am fed up of it, am having a high carb day, with a cheat meal tomorrow (deadlift day) and cant wait
here is what i have drawn up so far
mon: 190g (wo day)
tue: 500g + cheat meal (wo day)
wed: 0 carbs (cardio)
Thur: 190g (wo day)
Fri: 190g (wo day)
Sat: 45g (cardio)
Sun: 45g (cardio)
each day protein will be 350 - 400g
Fat: 50 - 80g
07-26-2005, 02:15 PM #18
i just had my high carb day and it felt good
had 2 cheat meals too
need to behave myslef tomorrow
i am going to be using ECA/Clen and was wandering was there actually any point taking my ECA stack on my high carb day?
07-27-2005, 03:40 AM #19
ECA on high carb days#?
07-27-2005, 03:46 AM #20
07-27-2005, 05:54 AM #21
07-27-2005, 05:55 AM #22
07-27-2005, 06:45 AM #23
07-27-2005, 06:49 AM #24
oh sorry i misread what u typed
i am not doing them both together - 2 weeks of one then 2 weeks of the other
i have used them both before i know how to run them
but is there any point running them on my high carb days thats all i need to know
07-27-2005, 06:54 AM #25
yeah run them on high carb days
07-27-2005, 07:00 AM #26
right thats what i'll do then
it just seems weird though, eating all that extra food to shock the metabalism only to have the effects reversed with the fat burners
07-27-2005, 07:02 AM #27
ohh you mean on your mega high carb day. Well if this is like a cheat day then using it or not using it wont make a difference. I usualy never use any fat burners on my cheat day to give the body a break from them mostly. They wont make a difference anyway if the food intake is enormous.
But if you stay fairly within kcal limits then go with the eca.
07-27-2005, 07:05 AM #28
this makes sense now
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