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    Flex2winny is offline Associate Member
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    Troubles gaining weight....

    Well, I've been 500 over my maintence for 4 weeks now. Wt and strength are still stagnant. Training 5 days and cardio x 7. ANyone ever add a MRP or bar ON TOP of their daily meals maybe 2x when trying to up the cals? Will this work opposed to cutting cardio?

    16 oz milk
    1 banana
    1 and 1/2 scoops whey
    1 cup of oats
    tablespoon of flax
    tablespoon of natty pb

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    3500 Calories is a pound. If you're over your maintenence by 500 a day, you should theoretically be gaining 1 lb per week. However, with cardio, you could easily be burning those extra 500 Calories or even some of the Calories consumed to maintain your current weight. I suggest that you cut down cardio to two times per week (or even eliminate it completely), or try for 750 or 1000 Calories a day above maintenence.

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    why cardio every day? You should give your body a break from it once in a while. 3-4 times a week is sufficient, especially if you want to gain mass.

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    Cut out cardio completely or maybe just one day a week. If your diet is clean how it should be (even when bulking) you will stay fairly lean.

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    Calories in->calories out, is ,contray to what most ppl think, NOT how the body works. The body is geared for survival and will adjust its metabolism accordingly. Ditch cardio or greatly lower the intensity and workout hard 2-3 days a week. You are training too often for mass gains (unless you are chemically supported).

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    5 days a week without "chemical assistance" is too much? I just started a 5 day split this week and I'm really enjoying it, but I want to make sure that I'll see some gains since I'm not "chemically assisted". Also mention that I'm a hard gainer (although I've gained about 13lbs since I started my new regimen about 4 months ago).

    Sorry about hi-jacking the thread a little, but I'm curious as to what powerliftmike said.

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    Even if you're chemically assisted, I wouldn't try to build mass AND stay lean... your diet has to be accustomed to ONE of these goals, not both.

    Perhaps your maintenance calories are not as low as you think they are. Try posting your diet in the appropriate forum, there are good bros that can tear it apart and tell you what to fix to gain muscle.

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    up the frickin calories.
    Whats your matience. Your bmr can EASILY vary %10 daily. So including workout and cardio your maitanance is 3900 calories(theoritically). 10% is 390. your 500 over. lets say you calculated your maintanance low. Congrats. Your ingesting 110 more calories daily then your maintenace. wooo hooo. 12 weeker will yield you 2.64 lbs in lean muscle gain..

    try 1500 or 2000 over daily. Then come back in a week and say thank you for the advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mealticket
    wooo hooo. 12 weeker will yield you 2.64 lbs in lean muscle gain..
    LOL way to tell it like it is, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex2winny
    Well, I've been 500 over my maintence for 4 weeks now. Wt and strength are still stagnant. Training 5 days and cardio x 7. ANyone ever add a MRP or bar ON TOP of their daily meals maybe 2x when trying to up the cals? Will this work opposed to cutting cardio?

    16 oz milk
    1 banana
    1 and 1/2 scoops whey
    1 cup of oats
    tablespoon of flax
    tablespoon of natty pb
    Just eat! until you are gaining weight at a rate that you are happy with. Dont look at charts and graphs and try to workout your maintainance cals, everyone is different just go by trial and error so you know how YOUR body works.

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    Food!!!

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    Flex2winny,

    I've asked you multiple times to keep diet questions IN THE DIET FORUM, not in other forums like the steroid forum, workout forum, etc. There is a reason we have forums here with their own unique subjects, so please take heed to those regulations. I had to move this from the steroid forum as it does NOT belong there.

    Please just follow the forum guidelines.

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    I don't get it, how can you be 500 above mateinance is you arn't gianing weight? Perhaps you are EXACTLY at your mateinance right now (since you arn't gaining weight) bump it up another 500 and see what happens.

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    Typically when weight and strength gains cease one should up their cals. Pretty simple, just eat more, you'll gain for sure.

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    no strength increase and no weight gain except the bloated feeling from eating all day.....what do I change bros??? Heres my quick and dirty

    30 MIN LOW INCLINE WALK ON TRADMILL DAILY
    PRO/FAT/CARB
    MEAL 1
    50,4-5.60-65
    4 EGG WHITES
    3/4 CUP OATS
    250 OR 1 CUP DRY CURD CC, FEW BERRIES, OR 1/2 APPLE IN IT
    *SCARED TO GO BANANAN, BUT WANT TO, LOL)

    2
    50,20-25,4-5
    TB FLAX
    40 G WHEY, 10-20G PRO FROM CARB SENSE SKIM AAND EGG WHITES
    *SHAKE*

    3
    50, 20-25, 10-20
    8OZ CHX BEEF
    HUGE SALAD WITH VEGGIES
    TB OF UDOS

    4
    1 CAN TUNA
    2 PIECES WW OR 3/4 CUP COOKED RICE AND BEANS ON TRAINING DAYS,
    1TB MAYO AND AN EGG WITH TUNA ON CARDIO ONLY DAYS

    TRAIN/CARDIO

    5
    50/3-4/40-50
    50 G WHEY SHAKE AND MANY VEGGIES ON CARDIO DAY
    40G WHEY, 2 RICE CAKES, SUGARY CEREALS, FEW CARROTS ON TRAINING DAYS
    OR 1 RICE CAKE, 1/2 CUP OATS IN SHAKE

    40/30-30/ 5-10
    250 G DRY CURD
    20-30 PEANUTS

    BED

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    Thats not much food at all bro... try totaling up your pro/fat/carb/calories for the day.

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    did it with sc and giantz..well, mostly giantz.....it's 700 over my bas. met. rate...about 3,300 cals......

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    where would you add foods????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex2winny
    did it with sc and giantz..well, mostly giantz.....it's 700 over my bas. met. rate...about 3,300 cals......
    For the record, I didn't approve/not approve any of your approaches.



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