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    Putting on to much weight

    im taking in about 400g of protien a day 400g of carbs and 80-100 g of fat...its all come from healthy foods.. it all comes to around 4000 calories a day but I feel im putting on to much weight......should I drop it down how many calorieS?

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    give your stats.....duh LOL

    then we will be able to give you the answer

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    sure...

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    you are bulking?? give us your stats....... but in my experience.... i would lower the carbs

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    If your bulking I don't think you can put on "Too" much weight. You can always cut later.

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    about 400g of carbs.....400g protien......80-100 fat comes out to around 4000 calories a day....... i was taking in the 600g carb 300-350g protien 80-100g fat coming out to 4000 calories as well.

    stats are 6'1.......185-190LB

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    I was told to cut down the cals a bit cuz i also noticed that i was gaining a little bit to much... also how is your AM cardio looking? Might just want to increase that a bit to get rid of addition fat you might be storing from bulking...

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    im bulking ( I didnt think I was suppose to be doing Cardio well bulking?)

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    You might want to start including it in to limit the amount of fat that your gonna add during your bulk... Maybe just start off with 2 days 30 min, and see how that effects your gains... And adjust from there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsimon
    about 400g of carbs.....400g protien......80-100 fat comes out to around 4000 calories a day....... i was taking in the 600g carb 300-350g protien 80-100g fat coming out to 4000 calories as well.

    stats are 6'1.......185-190LB

    Your cals are definately too high.....I weigh 235lbs and I was gaining too much weight (fat) eating 400g protein/400-500carbs/80-100fats and I weigh almost 50lbs mroe than you. I woudl lower down to about 350-400gpro/300carbs/60-80fats

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    alright thanks for the advice....

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    What should my calories be around to gain 1 LB a week then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsimon
    What should my calories be around to gain 1 LB a week then?
    a more than 500 cals above your maintenance calorie level. Maintenace is usually 14 cals/ lb of LBM give or take a few....

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    so if I weight 185-190LB I should be consuming 3500? to gain 1LB a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by spound
    Your cals are definately too high.....I weigh 235lbs and I was gaining too much weight (fat) eating 400g protein/400-500carbs/80-100fats and I weigh almost 50lbs mroe than you. I woudl lower down to about 350-400gpro/300carbs/60-80fats
    This also very much depends on what pheno type he is. If he is an Ecto which I think last time he said he was 4000 is not too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsimon
    What should my calories be around to gain 1 LB a week then?

    Are you gaining noticeable amounts of fat?

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    around the waist only I can DEFF tell. A handle is developing at a pretty good pace...I never had one before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsimon
    around the waist only I can DEFF tell. A handle is developing at a pretty good pace...I never had one before.

    Ok then you need to cut your cals back a bit and yes some AM cardio would most def help keep the fat off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsimon
    around the waist only I can DEFF tell. A handle is developing at a pretty good pace...I never had one before.
    if you are on a bulking cycle, then excess fat is expected. otherwise you arent bulking. if anything, just drop the carb intake down a bit, to say 350g/day, which in turn will lower your calories about 600 calories (roughly).

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    thanks for the advice. See I think im a fast gainer.....fast loser type of body...cardio could kill my weight.....but not sure..if I did decide to do cardio how much? and how long? I know to expect some fat, but I think its coming on way to fast and im just onto this diet for 2-3 weeks maybe. So 300-350 carbs and 400 protien and keep the fat between 80-100???? and drop the calories down to 3400 or so?

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    You can either drop the cals, or drop the cals slightly and incorporate some cardio. My choice would be a slight reduction in cals and add AM cardio for 45 min. This would be low intensity of course and would help with fat gain not to mention work out the most important muscle in your body, the heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    You can either drop the cals, or drop the cals slightly and incorporate some cardio. My choice would be a slight reduction in cals and add AM cardio for 45 min. This would be low intensity of course and would help with fat gain not to mention work out the most important muscle in your body, the heart.
    however, if he is an ecto, then cardio will certainly hinder his bulking. especially in the am when it can be very catabolic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASTERDBOL
    however, if he is an ecto, then cardio will certainly hinder his bulking. especially in the am when it can be very catabolic.

    If he's putting on fat easily at 4,000 cals. He's not your typical Ecto. Also AM cardio is not catabolic if done at a low intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    If he's putting on fat easily at 4,000 cals. He's not your typical Ecto. Also AM cardio is not catabolic if done at a low intensity.
    sleeping, alone, is catabolic. let alone doing cardio without the proper nutrition in your system. anyway giantz, lets get back to the other thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASTERDBOL
    sleeping, alone, is catabolic. let alone doing cardio without the proper nutrition in your system. anyway giantz, lets get back to the other thread.

    If you know how to eat you simply are not just going to waste away into nothing. Sleep is not that catabolic either if you eat before bed, which I hope everyone does. Also Aerobic exercise increases nutrient uptake much like weight training does, it enhaces glycogen syntheis as well as protein synthesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    If you know how to eat you simply are not just going to waste away into nothing. Sleep is not that catabolic either if you eat before bed, which I hope everyone does. Also Aerobic exercise increases nutrient uptake much like weight training does, it enhaces glycogen syntheis as well as protein synthesis.
    but after 8 hours of sleep, most nutrients have already been used up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASTERDBOL
    but after 8 hours of sleep, most nutrients have already been used up.

    Putting you in the perfect state to burn fat. The most optimal by far, if kept at a low intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    Putting you in the perfect state to burn fat. The most optimal by far, if kept at a low intensity.
    i agree if you are cutting....but he's not. he's bulking. i think he is just afraid of fat. it wont kill you during a bulking cycle. once you are done with it, then you will have time to cut the fat. just keep doing your ab workouts, and when you start cutting later on, you will be able to see the abs nicely.

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    Well I'll agree there but if you are lean bulking then Low intensity cardio can be utilized to burn some fat and help minimize fat gain. Cardio done in the fasted state will use FFA's for fuel, which is never a bad thing cutting or bulking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    Well I'll agree there but if you are lean bulking then Low intensity cardio can be utilized to burn some fat and help minimize fat gain. Cardio done in the fasted state will use FFA's for fuel, which is never a bad thing cutting or bulking.
    i agree with you on that one. ffa's??? future farmers of america??? j/k.

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    You're too much dude, its Fat Fvckers Anonymous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    You're too much dude, its Fat Fvckers Anonymous!
    i like that one. we should start that group to help fat people all over the world. so that WE have a better life.

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    darn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    This also very much depends on what pheno type he is. If he is an Ecto which I think last time he said he was 4000 is not too much.

    I am an ecto as well bro!.....4yrs ago, I was 6'2 155-160lbs

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    What I did was......im taking in 330g Carbs....400g Protien and 80 fat and it comes out to be about 3600 calories....hows that?

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