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10-11-2005, 02:34 AM #1
B-vitamins killing Total Testosterone
I've been experiencing a lack of energy and a negative mood to activity lately. I'm guessing my T levels are either low or being depleted somehow. I work long days and train in the mornings. Lately, I've been taking in larger doses of liquid B-complex. Has anyone ever experienced a lack of energy from excess B's? My diet has been mostly in check, given the lifestyle I lead. Protein is high, carbs are high, fats may be a little low but not enough to worry about. I'm heading back to Texas next week for a vacation, so I'll probably have a lab done while I'm there...but just thought I'd get some opinions first on possible causes. I feel as if I just completely dropped off of a test/deca cycle and am taking estrogen pills. (minus the bitch tits)!!! Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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10-11-2005, 04:04 AM #2
its not the B vitamins - if anything they are likely to provide you more energy
you may not be getting enough iron - u could try an iron sup - but be careful cos u can easy take too much and like with most tings too much is BAD
yeah consult your doc
i experience low energy but this is when i'm cutting and taking ephedrine
also if youve been ill with a cold recently that may zap some energy - it does with me
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10-11-2005, 08:56 AM #3
i have only had THAT feeling your talking about during a vey low carb diet, you feel like you got beat in your sleep right?? if you are eating super clean and have been for a while you may need to throw in a cheat meal or day, i noticed you said you are takeing down plenty of carbs but still your body gets board ofnothing but clean foods over and over again so i would go out eat anything you want if you have been eaing clean to long..
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10-11-2005, 10:22 AM #4Originally Posted by steve0
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10-11-2005, 10:34 AM #5Originally Posted by Austex
for the past 6 weeks bruh !!!! i would have to say it's deff, time for a cheatmeal/refeed, you have gone to long my man you gotta shock your system
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10-11-2005, 10:43 AM #6
Austex, how long have you been dieting for? How many cals are you currently eating? And whens the last time you had a cheat/carb up day?
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10-11-2005, 12:28 PM #7Originally Posted by Giantz11
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10-11-2005, 01:34 PM #8Originally Posted by Austex
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10-11-2005, 11:31 PM #9Originally Posted by Giantz11
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10-12-2005, 07:50 AM #10
Basically, Leptin controls everything when it comes to dieting. After dieting for a while fat cells shrink which controls leptin signaling, glucose does this as well but only in the short term time frame (which is why carb up days are nessisary). When Leptin drops so does just about everything you can think of, Test, Thyroid function and cortisol rises concurently (real nice addition). Leptin also regulates appitite driving your appitite through the roof as you you get leaner. It's all basically a survival mechanism and I'd say at 13% BF or around there you may need a good ole refeed to boost Leptin signaling as wella s Insulin which will also help raises Test because Insulin binds to SHBG which will help raise free Test. The lower you get past your natural BF setpoint the more you will need to refeed. Its far more complicated than this but, this is a very basi overview.
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10-12-2005, 08:02 AM #11Originally Posted by Austex
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10-12-2005, 12:02 PM #12
nice one
great info once again giantz
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10-12-2005, 02:20 PM #13Originally Posted by G-Force
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10-12-2005, 02:22 PM #14Originally Posted by Giantz11
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10-12-2005, 06:28 PM #15Member
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10-12-2005, 07:29 PM #16Originally Posted by mitch911
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Originally Posted by Giantz11
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10-13-2005, 07:42 AM #18Originally Posted by mitch911
Yes I believe that this most certainly applies to certain aspects of carb cycling.
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