mixing low GI carbs with fat

[G-Force]

i know a small amount of fat is permitted when eating low GI carbs but can you get away with a bit more than a 'small amount'?

obviously i never eat fat with high GI carbs, but was wandering about the effect of a carb/pro/fat meal would have

if the carbs are low GI, then there wont be a high insulin surge, also the addition of fat and protein would reduce the GI of the carbs

so is there really anything to worry about with this

[G-Force]

no takers on this then...

[Giantz11]

Not sure how much fat you are talkin here but I think would be that fats mixed with low GI carbs wouldn't be that bad. Probably easier to get away with when dieting rather than bulking. Just try and keep the fats healthy.

[G-Force]

not a huge amount

eg.
pro 40g
carb 60g
fat 15g

(something like that)

yeah my fats are always healthy and so are my carbs
so i wont worry about adding a little fat in now and again to my pro/carb meals


i'm curious though - why is it easier to get away with when cutting - i wouldve thought it'd be the other way round?

[Giantz11]

not a huge amount

eg.
pro 40g
carb 60g
fat 15g

(something like that)

yeah my fats are always healthy and so are my carbs
so i wont worry about adding a little fat in now and again to my pro/carb meals


i'm curious though - why is it easier to get away with when cutting - i wouldve thought it'd be the other way round?

In bulking you are in a caloric surplus making a fat storing environment much easier to create, while cutting you are in a caloric deficit, kinda hard to gain fat when you are in a deficit, pretty much hard to gain anything.

[xtinaunasty]

a teenie bit of olive oil on my chicken salad would be kinda nice...and some of that balsamic vinegar. Man!! you guys weren't kidding about that stuff! i read that thread and didn't see what the big deal was but when i tried some...i saw the light!!

[Giantz11]

Balsamic is the bomb

[collar]

Balsamic never tried might have to try it...
as for the question
i mix one of my meals with fat/pro/carb
and im cutting up right now dont see the big deal...

[mitch911]

whats this meal bro

[Kärnfysikern]

I think its ok. A meal with lentils or bean for instance has such a ridicilously low gi that It wont aid fatgain at all. Some brown rice with like salmon and a mouthfull of seeds before that is a awsome meal.

Its just like you say aswell, the fat and protein lowers the gi.(just look at the gi of peanuts). So if the carb source is low gi to begin with and you add fat, fibers and protein the gi wont matter.

[Kärnfysikern]

this would be a perfect pro/fat/carb meal

brown rice and salmon with lots of fibrous veggies. Before the meal chew down a mouthfull of seeds and drink some vinegar.

[G-Force]

drink some vinegar?

thats sounds terrible - but i like balsamic so much i reckon i could pretty much down a whole bottle (if i wanted to that is)

[Kärnfysikern]

the vinegar is just to lower the ph of the stomach. Lower ph means lower gi. Just mix some apple cider vinegar with water and drink. Doesnt taste all that well but it works good and suposedly its healthy aswell.

[G-Force]

the vinegar is just to lower the ph of the stomach. Lower ph means lower gi. Just mix some apple cider vinegar with water and drink. Doesnt taste all that well but it works good and suposedly its healthy aswell.

yeah - lemon juice does the same too

i find it difficult to use balsamic - cos i like it too much and up putting far too much on which pretty much negates the positive impact

[Kärnfysikern]

or you could practice what I preach and drink a big glass of water mixed with ascorbic acid

but yeah lemon would work why the hell didnt I think of that??

[collar]

i have 2 lemons a day..

and what type of seeds are you talking bout johan and whats the nutrition value of them???????

[Kärnfysikern]

flax seeds or psyllium seeds. The nutrition value is negligable since they pass through the body undigested. If you crush the flax seeds before consumin they have some fat and protein. The fat is offcourse flax oil. Its a better source for flax oil than bottled flax oil since it contains anti estrogenic lignants ect.

[G-Force]

i mixed in some peanut butter into my oatmeal and egg whites this morning and it was GOOD

macro's

PRO: 37g
CARBS: 94g
FAT: 16g

[mitch911]

yea thats what i was thinking would taste awesome ..isually add in splenda sugar free jam and syrup and taste good ..maybe 1 tbs of peanut butter will make the pb and j taste mmm

[xtinaunasty]

i mixed in some peanut butter into my oatmeal and egg whites this morning and it was GOOD

macro's

PRO: 37g
CARBS: 94g
FAT: 16g

Did you put the egg whites in the oatmeal? plus pb?

[Kärnfysikern]

be aware that oatmeal doesnt have a low gi

[mitch911]

huh? isnt oatmeal like the best complex carb low gi ..that and brown rice

[Giantz11]

huh? isnt oatmeal like the best complex carb low gi ..that and brown rice

Oatmeal's not even really that low gi.

[Kärnfysikern]

nope oatmeal is in the medium range of gi closer to high than low. Low gi is foods like lentils and beans. Brown rice is good but it has about twice the gi of beans and lentils.
Oatmeal is a good food because of the fibers ect, not neccesarly beacuase of the gi.

comparison
sugar has a gi of 97
white bread 100
lentils 42
beans 25-40
oatmeal 89
brown rice 78 or so.
Whole grain pasta around 60

[Kärnfysikern]

imo the thing that determines the quality of a carbsoruce is a combination of GI and high micronutrient content. But if you are gonna mix a carb source with fat only the first thing factors in.

[G-Force]

Did you put the egg whites in the oatmeal? plus pb?

yes indeedy

u cant taste the egg whites whatso ever wehn u mix them with oats put it in the microwave and add cinamon

[G-Force]

be aware that oatmeal doesnt have a low gi

ah yeah good point
i forgot about that

[mitch911]

maybe not a low gi but brown rice and oats are preffered carbs in diet right

[Kärnfysikern]

yes they are both good chooises and brown rice is lower than most regular foods.