Thread: My CUT to BULK Log......
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10-02-2005, 05:39 AM #1Associate Member
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My CUT to BULK Log......
Well, 1st of October I said I'd break away from this long ass cut, so here it is. Right now I am 6'2.5 and 180lbs. Sitting around 7-8%bf from a solid 230lbs and 12%bf 3-4 years ago (college football days). Abs are pretty diced in the am and after training, which I never had before (so it will be depressing to lose them). Cardio is 7 days a week, empty stomach, incline walk for 38 minutes. Training is 6x a week, 1bp ed.
TO CUT (every morning)
4:30am
38 min incline walk, highest grade, 3.1,3.2,3.3 then 4.0 speed)
6:00am
3/4 cup rolled oats
6-8 egg whites
sprinkle of whey and 3-4 splendas
930
1 cup (250g) dry curd cottage cheese with some oat bran spinkled on top
10-15 shelled peanuts and 1tb of peanut butter
little carb sense skim, coffee and splenda.
12:30
HUGE salad with tons of veggies
6 oz chicken and lean beef
1tb of udos
10 shelled peanuts or almonds
3:30
Whey and skim shake
1/2 cup oats
5:30
TRAIN
700
40g whey
2 rice cakes
1/2 cup quick oats
9:00
1 cup (250g) dry curd
15-20 almonds or peanuts
9:30 BED
TO BULK -
Cardio on Sunday afternoon, Tues/Thurs Morning, Friday afternoon (spin)
38 min incline walk, highest grade, 3.1,3.2,3.3 then 4.0 speed)
6:00am
1 cup rolled oats
6-8 egg whites
sprinkle of whey and 3-4 splendas
(MIGHT SWITCH OATS TO GRANOLA (ORGANIC 0 SUGAR) OR WHOLE WHEAT BAGEL. THOUGHTS?
930
1 cup (250g) dry curd cottage cheese with some oat bran spinkled on top
10-15 shelled peanuts and 1tb of peanut butter OR
LEAN MATRIX SHAKE OR MYOPLEX MASS SHAKE (8/40/40)
little carb sense skim, coffee and splenda.
12:30
HUGE salad with tons of veggies
6 oz chicken AND BEEF
10 shelled peanuts
1 CUP BROWN RICE OR 2-4 PIECES OF WHOLE WHEAT
3:30
2 WHOLE WHEAT BAGES WITH CHICKEN OR TUNA OR 4 PIECES WHOLE WHEAT
600
TRAIN
715
WHEY/DEX
745-8
TUNA CHICK OR EGG WHITES
CUP BROWN RICE, VEGGIES
9:00
THICK CASEIN SHAKE WITH SKIM AND SPLENDA
1000
BED
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Originally Posted by Flex2winny
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10-02-2005, 11:43 AM #3
why dont you have a whey/dex shake when you cut? do you eat whole food carbs cuz it keeps you full longer or is dex not good for cutting?
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10-02-2005, 12:30 PM #4
you should always have whey/dex PWO regardless of cutting or bulking
just have a larger amount when bulking
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10-02-2005, 12:49 PM #5Originally Posted by G-Force
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10-02-2005, 01:44 PM #6Originally Posted by Giantz11
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10-02-2005, 02:05 PM #7Originally Posted by G-Force
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10-02-2005, 02:56 PM #8
me either
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10-02-2005, 03:30 PM #9
me either because i always thought it was for bulking...isnt it just pure sugar? how would that help you loose fat?
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10-02-2005, 04:00 PM #10Originally Posted by Giantz11
what do u use then? honey?
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10-02-2005, 04:01 PM #11Originally Posted by xtinaunasty
you need it to replenish lost muscle glycogen during anaerobic exercise
its the only time of day your body actually requires high glycemic carbs
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10-02-2005, 04:08 PM #12
mmmm.....sugar. im gonna go workout.
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10-02-2005, 04:57 PM #13
lol, pwo shake also helps reduce cortisol levels because they're rasied after strenuous activity.
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10-02-2005, 06:04 PM #14Associate Member
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diet is ok though?
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10-02-2005, 06:53 PM #15Originally Posted by Flex2winny
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10-02-2005, 06:56 PM #16Originally Posted by G-Force
You never require Hi Gi carbs, however they replenish lost muscle glycogen at a very fast rate. However weight training is more taxing on the ATP/CN system rather than glycogen. High Rep/Endurace training schemes are the most glycogen depleting.
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10-02-2005, 06:57 PM #17Originally Posted by niXon)(
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10-02-2005, 06:59 PM #18Originally Posted by G-Force
I use Oats/Multi-Grain Bagel, Whey, some cottage cheese and sometimes milk.
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10-02-2005, 07:08 PM #19Originally Posted by Giantz11
it's still a good way to get extra kcals in, and, in my experience packs the muscle on you.
sure doesnt hurt is what i'm saying.
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10-02-2005, 07:56 PM #20Originally Posted by Giantz11
alright giantz...us country folk dont git those big words.
but ill look it up
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10-02-2005, 08:03 PM #21
i my self have never used dex nor do i know anyone personally that does, but i guess there is nothing wrong with giving it a try, for my self i just eat after i lift thats what i have always done and seems to work for me
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10-03-2005, 04:27 AM #22Originally Posted by steve0
try dex.
its cheap, easy to use and highly effective in the right doseages PWO
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10-03-2005, 07:37 AM #23Originally Posted by xtinaunasty
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10-03-2005, 08:15 AM #24Originally Posted by Giantz11
so what do you take down??? after workout for pwo?? also are you saying that just protein itself could create a insulin spike?
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10-03-2005, 08:16 AM #25Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Giantz11
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10-03-2005, 08:17 AM #26Originally Posted by Flex2winny
this is a great post im sure it will help plenty o newbie's, i feel ya bruh on loosing the abbs i was totally ripped April-july, sittin pretty at 9% also why the 38min walk 38min just seems odd???
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10-03-2005, 09:00 AM #27Originally Posted by Flex2winny
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10-03-2005, 09:03 AM #28Originally Posted by steve0
I use Oats/Multi Grain Bagel, Whey, cottage cheese and sometimes some milk.
Whey alone will illicit an insulin response yes, most foods do. It's not going to be a "spike" like dextrose or anything like that but you will have an isulin response.
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10-03-2005, 11:02 AM #29
will dextrose be couterproductive (vs a bagel or oats) while cutting? Cuz i had a scoop of whey and a couple pixie sticks after i worked out yesterday and...holy mother!! i dont think i had accountability for my life for about 5 mins i was so high.
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10-03-2005, 11:08 AM #30Originally Posted by xtinaunasty
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10-03-2005, 11:11 AM #31Associate Member
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GIANTZ - HOW DOES YOUR CURRENT DIET LOOK? whoops...sorry.......no caps.....
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10-03-2005, 11:15 AM #32Associate Member
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i've ben diced for over 2 years, but seriously weak.......losing the abs is going to keep me from this bulking and obtaining my goals......its been years since I missed ONE day of cardio and tomorrow will be the first, if I make it...
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10-03-2005, 07:39 PM #33Associate Member
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I put a ton of time into this diet, separating fats and carbs, you really don't hink it's enough cals?? Even with the cardio, it's a walk on the treadmill in the am at 12, 3.1 sped for a 1/2 hour. I sit all day in an office bro, then train at night. I was afraid it's TOO many cals for my activity level. What would you suggest? I've also switched from a casein shake at night to a huge cup of dry curd cottage cheese and a load of almonds, peanuts and pistachios. Just want holding me over. Need more? Quizznos?
ORR...should I just keep everything the same as I did on a cut, but instead of cardio ed for 30-40 minutes, knock it down to 20-30 and see what what that does. Guess my question truly is, up the portions and keep the cardio the same? Keep the cals the same and decrease time of cardio? Reduce cardio to 4x max a week? OR, nix cardio and up the portions?
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10-30-2005, 07:50 PM #34Associate Member
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Originally Posted by steve0
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10-30-2005, 10:06 PM #35
Dude I am cutting right now and my bulk up is coming soon, the only difference is my bulk is YUMMY......pizza,tacos,steaks,burgers yum!! Thats the real way to bulk!
If its not dirty its not right!
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10-30-2005, 10:08 PM #36
Oh yeah and whats with the cardio while bulking?@!
I can see doing cardio a couple times a week but thats it......
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